Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length

Adrian Flux

Author Topic: Kit Abarth 695 Brembo Koni and Kit Abarth Brembo  (Read 4788 times)

sandys

  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 832
Re: Kit Abarth 695 Brembo Koni and Kit Abarth Brembo
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2011, 05:21:51 PM »
I know they are cross drilled but the disks dont look any bigger in diameter than those on the esseesse.

How does the cross drilled make them better?

the break kit on its own which i would have to go for as im already esseessed, seems very expensive

Im going to have some koni's fitted in the new year but this isnt tempting me to go for a koni/brembo combo,

I'm not going to try and justify the price although they are slightly cheaper than I've seen some kits being sold for online.
Anyone that has driven a 695 or an Evo Esse Esse will tell you that those brakes are fantastic.

Stock Punto Evo brakes are pretty handy to be honest, great brake setup.

most of the answers to your questions can be answered by reading this, I was going to type out some stuff but why bother when someone else has done it :)

http://www.buybrakes.com/brembo/faq.html
« Last Edit: October 25, 2011, 05:23:27 PM by sandys »

SJH

  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5854
  • Allegedly wise.... because I'm repelled by MARMITE
Re: Kit Abarth 695 Brembo Koni and Kit Abarth Brembo
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2011, 05:24:43 PM »
Thanks John.

I am going to whisper this controversial view lest I create a storm - About what I expected and, depending on what the car is to be used for, I would imagine a very good upgrade to an SS...... :hide:

All that said, I actually think the SS brakes are pretty good.  :)
He's here, he's here, he's here....... :-)

John501

  • Abarth Dealer
  • Dealer Liaison
  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6025
Re: Kit Abarth 695 Brembo Koni and Kit Abarth Brembo
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2011, 05:27:30 PM »
Speak up, I can't hear you
Visit Vospers Abarth, Plymouth

Hippo

  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2241
  • intentionally dim
Re: Kit Abarth 695 Brembo Koni and Kit Abarth Brembo
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2011, 05:33:26 PM »
So you won't take my £2020 to put the brakes on my non-Esseesse car?

John501

  • Abarth Dealer
  • Dealer Liaison
  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6025
Re: Kit Abarth 695 Brembo Koni and Kit Abarth Brembo
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2011, 05:50:46 PM »
Don't blame me, it's not my rules.
Visit Vospers Abarth, Plymouth

Griffs998

  • Esseesse Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 190
Re: Kit Abarth 695 Brembo Koni and Kit Abarth Brembo
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2011, 05:51:34 PM »
 the 500 should have had the same brembo brakes as the grande punto abarth - i suspect the reason it didnt was so that abarth could save some money by fitting the ZPF calipers and justify it by saying as the car is lighter it didnt need as much braking power - add this 2k to the price of a 500 (and i know this is extremely subjective ) then it becomes really quite poor value compared to the punto - unless the car is being tracked regularly then changing pads, fluid and brakelines will be more than enough and at a fraction of the cost

SJH

  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5854
  • Allegedly wise.... because I'm repelled by MARMITE
Re: Kit Abarth 695 Brembo Koni and Kit Abarth Brembo
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2011, 06:08:41 PM »
the 500 should have had the same brembo brakes as the grande punto abarth - i suspect the reason it didnt was so that abarth could save some money by fitting the ZPF calipers and justify it by saying as the car is lighter it didnt need as much braking power - add this 2k to the price of a 500 (and i know this is extremely subjective ) then it becomes really quite poor value compared to the punto - unless the car is being tracked regularly then changing pads, fluid and brakelines will be more than enough and at a fraction of the cost

You are right, value is totally subjective, hence my whisper above . :thumb:

I suspect the reason is the photograph above. At the time, konis didn't exist. Now they do, so this door is open. Further, the 695 needed to come first and then some of the bits for us lesser mortals.....

For those of us who already have their cars, these add-ons are always going to be "expensive". Order from the outset, less so. What is actually the best thing about all of this is there is an A500 to suit each purpose and pocket with various add-ons along the way. After all, what brand of car does not have a price spanning several thousand pounds over different models and options?

I have never thought you can compare a 500 with a Punto and still don't. Different cars and, very broadly, different markets (although there will always be exceptions.....).
He's here, he's here, he's here....... :-)

rare

  • Assetto Corse Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 314
Re: Kit Abarth 695 Brembo Koni and Kit Abarth Brembo
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2011, 06:09:02 PM »
It all sounds lovely, I would specially like the 695 style alloys, but the price makes me cry.
500/TMC/MONZA/GTT Level 2 - rare6499@yahoo.co.uk

Hippo

  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2241
  • intentionally dim
Re: Kit Abarth 695 Brembo Koni and Kit Abarth Brembo
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2011, 06:11:45 PM »
If I'd paid £40000 for my exclusive 695 I don't think id be that chuffed about my exclusive new wheels kicking about on a lowly Esseesse.

SJH

  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5854
  • Allegedly wise.... because I'm repelled by MARMITE
Re: Kit Abarth 695 Brembo Koni and Kit Abarth Brembo
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2011, 06:15:15 PM »
If I'd paid £40000 for my exclusive 695 I don't think id be that chuffed about my exclusive new wheels kicking about on a lowly Esseesse.

I take your point but it was/is wholly foreseeable that, one day, you will be able to make your own 695 minus the badges.... :-X
He's here, he's here, he's here....... :-)

Hippo

  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2241
  • intentionally dim
Re: Kit Abarth 695 Brembo Koni and Kit Abarth Brembo
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2011, 06:20:01 PM »
I think Abarth are being a bit cheeky. They should be creating ideas that attract new buyers to the brand not trying to coax more pennies from the pockets of those who have already spent money on the first upgrade.

Edit. Actually on second reading I'm a bit confused. If you by the 695 kit is your car then upgraded to 695? If this the case then fair doos.
« Last Edit: October 25, 2011, 06:34:40 PM by Hippo »

Griffs998

  • Esseesse Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 190
Re: Kit Abarth 695 Brembo Koni and Kit Abarth Brembo
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2011, 06:37:35 PM »
i quite agree SJH that the 500 and punto's are different markets - ive got a 500 and wouldnt personally consider a punto -
it depends how much of a premium the individual feels the feeling they get from a 500 is worth so its hard to argue in absolute terms - but abarth will be making a lot more money on a 500 especially with options like these brakes than a punto- they are trading on the fanaticism of the owners which judging by this forum is well documented  :whistle: - if people buy stuff then they obviously feel they've got a good enough deal but it reminds me of the bernie ecclestone school of business which is you can have whatever you want as long as you pay too much for it  

John501

  • Abarth Dealer
  • Dealer Liaison
  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6025
Re: Kit Abarth 695 Brembo Koni and Kit Abarth Brembo
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2011, 06:58:24 PM »

Edit. Actually on second reading I'm a bit confused. If you by the 695 kit is your car then upgraded to 695? If this the case then fair doos.


err, no
Visit Vospers Abarth, Plymouth

Hippo

  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2241
  • intentionally dim
Re: Kit Abarth 695 Brembo Koni and Kit Abarth Brembo
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2011, 07:05:41 PM »
No wonder it's called an 'elaboration' kit. Could and should be simpler.

Gingerdog

  • Esseesse Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 215
Re: Kit Abarth 695 Brembo Koni and Kit Abarth Brembo
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2011, 07:09:02 PM »
So is this instead of esseesse kit or an addition after.

I apologise for being thick in advance of any retribution.  ::)

 

hungry