Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.

Login with username, password and session length

Vospers Abarth

Author Topic: Abarth pcp  (Read 886 times)

ginger

  • Esseesse Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
Abarth pcp
« on: January 18, 2012, 09:36:23 PM »
Do many members of the forum buy there cars on a pcp , I have never had one before are they any good .

NinjaUK

  • Administrator
  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2709
Re: Abarth pcp
« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2012, 09:51:05 PM »
Yes and as Ronald says "I'm loving it(TM)"

will-w

  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1068
  • 'Captain Slow'
Re: Abarth pcp
« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2012, 09:57:01 PM »
I went for the traditional HP route as I like owning my cars after I've spent years paying for them..

Emma has her Fiesta on pcp; just make sure you select a realistic mileage as Emma is likely to get stuck when her 3 years is up! :(
- Abarth Grande Punto Esseesse -
Velocity Red, Titanium Wheels, Skydome, Climate
TMC

Yordan

  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1724
  • 2012
Re: Abarth pcp
« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2012, 10:00:56 PM »
I've got ours on pcp it works well if you select a good mileage.  :thumb:

NinjaUK

  • Administrator
  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2709
Re: Abarth pcp
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2012, 10:02:29 PM »
Milage has no play in it unless you plan to hand car back which is just still.  You would always use it as part ex on next car, at which point mileage does not come into it.  So you wouldn't every have to pay the 6ppm etc...

will-w

  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1068
  • 'Captain Slow'
Re: Abarth pcp
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2012, 10:16:16 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure one of the helpful dealers on here will) but mileage still has an affect if you use the car as a part exchange...

Say for instance you said at the start of your 3 year agreement you would do 6,000 a year.  3 years down the line the car has done 36,000 (you didn't realise how much fun it would be), the remaining value (or part-ex figure) would be less than predicted and thus not worth as much??

**listens to the dealer rubbing his hands together at the prospect of an extra £1080 in fees**

You are after all entering into a legally binding contract...
« Last Edit: January 18, 2012, 10:17:55 PM by will-w »
- Abarth Grande Punto Esseesse -
Velocity Red, Titanium Wheels, Skydome, Climate
TMC

web_monkey

  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 643
Re: Abarth pcp
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2012, 10:20:56 PM »
I took it to be that way Will but ive always been under  :)
A500 campovolo grey, 695 Brembo Koni Kit, red leather, climate, dippy mirror, naked
Born @ Bauer Millett Jan 2012 - couldn't be happier :)

web_monkey

  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 643
Re: Abarth pcp
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2012, 10:48:11 PM »
I stand corrected, don't need to pay excess mileage unless giving back. Part ex price is just lower. :)
A500 campovolo grey, 695 Brembo Koni Kit, red leather, climate, dippy mirror, naked
Born @ Bauer Millett Jan 2012 - couldn't be happier :)

John501

  • Abarth Dealer
  • Dealer Liaison
  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6033
Re: Abarth pcp
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2012, 11:03:28 PM »
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure one of the helpful dealers on here will) but mileage still has an affect if you use the car as a part exchange...
Not as long as your car is in equity.
From experience with  these cars the GFV is so low you could go over by 6000 miles a year quite easily and not even think about worrying about it.
Example, the GFV on a launch edition with 30000 miles on it was about £5000, the actual value of the car is about £7500 ish therefore no negative equity and no need to hand the car back.


**listens to the dealer rubbing his hands together at the prospect of an extra £1080 in fees**

Your dealer will make absolutely nothing if you go over your mileage and hand the car back, It's FGA capital that charge you the 6 pence per mile.
Visit Vospers Abarth, Plymouth

John501

  • Abarth Dealer
  • Dealer Liaison
  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6033
Re: Abarth pcp
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2012, 11:04:53 PM »
To answer your original question Ginger, there is a reason that 80% of Ford new car buyers use a PCP to fund their new vehicle, it works :thumb:
Visit Vospers Abarth, Plymouth

ginger

  • Esseesse Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 113
Re: Abarth pcp
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2012, 10:16:11 AM »
You would say that you are a dealer!!!!! but what are the advantages for the customer because unlike a personal loan the car is not yours.

NinjaUK

  • Administrator
  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 2709
Re: Abarth pcp
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2012, 10:19:18 AM »
That's a bit unfair ginger, he was trying to provide you with help.

You need to think of if you want to keep the car after the term, if so, pcp is probably not for you and personal loan is better.

I tend not to want to keep the car and use the equity to buy a newer one so personal loan would not work for me as well.

124Abarthreplica

  • Assetto Member
  • **
  • Posts: 57
Re: Abarth pcp
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2012, 10:25:21 AM »
Re: pcp. Who owns the car?
What about insurance if not owned?
I take it if the second payment is made, the car is then yours?
If at the end of the 2 year 50/50 deal you decide to take a new car, how much money changes hands?

John501

  • Abarth Dealer
  • Dealer Liaison
  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6033
Re: Abarth pcp
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2012, 10:46:13 AM »
You would say that you are a dealer!!!!!

Nope, just stating the facts.

Re: pcp. Who owns the car?
What about insurance if not owned?
I take it if the second payment is made, the car is then yours?
If at the end of the 2 year 50/50 deal you decide to take a new car, how much money changes hands?
In answer to the question of someone who deserves an answer,
The car belongs to FGA Capital until you have completely finished the agreement i.e. made the last payment.
Insurance is not a problem because the log book is in your name.
If you decide to make the second payment in 2 years then the car is 100% yours.
The final question is the interesting one.
Whilst this is being touted as a 50-50 deal it isn't just the price of the car split down the middle. FGA capital will work out what they think the minimum future value of the car will be in 2 years based on the mileage that you tell them. If the mileage is sensible (6-12K per year) the the minimum future value will be between 45-50% of the cars initial cost.
Based on todays figures, a 2 year old Abarth is worth more than half the original cost so there is equity in the vehicle (the car is worth more than the outstanding finance), that money can be carried forward into your next car as deposit thus lowering the price of your next new car.
Visit Vospers Abarth, Plymouth

sandys

  • S2000 Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 839
Re: Abarth pcp
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2012, 12:33:08 PM »
You would say that you are a dealer!!!!! but what are the advantages for the customer because unlike a personal loan the car is not yours.

Low monthly rate, easy to return your car when your are finished if the terms suit and get another one

Or for someone like myself who will drive it till I kill it or am enticed into some other deal, I get low rate finance <3% APR, due to balloon payment, means I also have more cash that can be alternately invested for higher returns and at the end I just pay out the of deal with my bonus payouts, cheap way to buy a car without using expensive finance or savings reserves.