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Cabin vents smell: catalytic converter or dead rodent?
« on: December 19, 2010, 09:54:02 PM »
Hi all,

I have an issue but not sure what's causing it  ???

I always have my heating on with air blowing to the screen and my feet. A few weeks ago a smell that I can only describe as a dead mouse / egg / manure started to fill the cabin on a sporadic basis.

I took the car in for the dealer to have a look and just my luck, the smell stopped a couple of days before it was booked in. They still had a look at it and found no dead rodent buried in the heating system and everything was working as it should.

That was Saturday and today the smell returned! The service department is closed until the New Year so I have to put up with this horrible pong for at least a fortnight until I can take it back for further investigation.

A friend of mine told me it could be the catalytic converter - could it be? If so, what needs to be done to it?

Mine's an A500 with 10k covered.

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Re: Cabin vents smell: catalytic converter or dead rodent?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2010, 10:00:37 PM »
Could it be stale water sat in the system some where?

If you put it in full cold and run it for 15mins it should clean it out.  Might be worth a go?

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Re: Cabin vents smell: catalytic converter or dead rodent?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2010, 10:08:56 PM »
Wouldnt have fault it was an exhaust/cat issue unless something had crawed up into the exhaust and then died but I would have thought you would have smelt that from the outside and it would have been all the time.

Open the bonnet and have a good hard look around the black trim around the base of he window and make sure nothing is there if it seems clear, like suggested, run the car on cold maybe even run the AC for a little while then try the heater. If the smell is there on normal cold and with the AC running then there is def something in the vents somewhere, but if its only on hot then Id suggest going back to the dealership in the new year and say you've run it hot and cold also with the AC running and its still there and ask em to look abit deep into the issue.

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Re: Cabin vents smell: catalytic converter or dead rodent?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2010, 10:15:11 PM »
Thanks guys. Been reading on the Internet since my post and there seems to be a lot of suggestions it may be down to the type of fuel used, type of air filter or engine not running properly.

I always use Shell V-Power, have an ITG air filter and a TMC tuning box. The car does occasionally flat spot when in normal mode since the box fitting but Daron (TMC) assures me all is well.

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Re: Cabin vents smell: catalytic converter or dead rodent?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2010, 10:21:31 PM »
Hmmmm, Id agree with that if you had been ragging it havent really experienced it with the Abarth but where my Alfa 156 is running a open cone filter is decated and has straight through pipework to the back box it runs quite rich and if Ive been driving hard (Never to the redline tho) it really really smells horrible, like somethings really wrong horrible but never that bad inside.

Maybe if the cars been pottering around town and in traffic alot and then given a blast say at the end of the week I could entertain the thought behind that. Does the smell start as the car starts to warm up and get worse as the car comes upto operating temp?
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Re: Cabin vents smell: catalytic converter or dead rodent?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2010, 10:35:53 PM »
The smell comes on inconsistently - normally it's noticable more from cold but then I'll get a whaft on longer journeys too. My daily journey to work is three miles. It gets longer runs at weekends.

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Re: Cabin vents smell: catalytic converter or dead rodent?
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2010, 11:00:43 PM »
Really weird...

Maybe worth checking all the carpets around the sills just incase of water peneration, I remember going to a new years party and having to sleep in the car as the house was full, a mate took the passanger seat (No sniggering, behave yourselves! lol) and for months afterwards it smelt like something had died in the car.

Took me months to find what it was, and funny enough that seemed to come and go, turn out to be a drinks bottle that had rolled under the seat and had spilt, the water/drink had turned, gone off whatever happens to water, stagnent?, and it stunk, only found out when I removed the seat for something, got a hair dryer on it with some carpet cleaner and it went away.

Sometimes it can be something really silly or simple, you just gota find the cause.
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Re: Cabin vents smell: catalytic converter or dead rodent?
« Reply #7 on: December 20, 2010, 12:43:39 AM »
Have a sniff around the battery, it could be sulphuric acid youre smelling if casing is weeping slightly.

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Re: Cabin vents smell: catalytic converter or dead rodent?
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2010, 01:00:49 PM »
UPDATE:

Checked battery for leaks: Fine.

Checked air filter for dead rodents: Fine.

Called dealer and discussed possibility of a problem with the cat converter: Fine (although it hasn't been looked at).

So, what next? The smell is actually changing, it's a bit like te smell you get from a hoover bag now. Could it be some kind of heating filter / matrix that's gone wrong?

Whatever it is, it's back to the dealers in the New Year  ???

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Re: Cabin vents smell: catalytic converter or dead rodent?
« Reply #9 on: December 27, 2010, 10:37:32 PM »
I've had a thought...could the pollen filter be causing the stench?

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Re: Cabin vents smell: catalytic converter or dead rodent?
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2010, 11:29:11 PM »
Thats a possibility, the pollen filter should be changed every year on the A500.
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Re: Cabin vents smell: catalytic converter or dead rodent?
« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2010, 06:26:52 PM »
LATEST: I think I may have found the problem  :) - water leaking into the boot liner is causing the smell.

The boot liner is made of thick, wooly stuff. I noticed a cardboard box I'd had in there for a couple of months was damp - took a whiff of it and it stunk. Patted the boot liner and it was damp and when I lifted it up it whiffed of the whiff I've been getting.

Strange though how it appears to be coming through the heating vents? Maybe the whaft moves around the car.

Not sure where the water's getting in but assuming it's from a badly fitted boot lid. Anyone else had a leaking tailgate?

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Re: Cabin vents smell: catalytic converter or dead rodent?
« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2010, 06:28:42 PM »
There are some little vents in the boot that help circulate the air so i wouldn't be surprised if you smell it from the boot  :)

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Re: Cabin vents smell: catalytic converter or dead rodent?
« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2010, 08:31:09 PM »
Assuming you have not spilt anything, empty the boot, get the seats down, climb in, and get a mate with a power washer ;D
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Re: Cabin vents smell: catalytic converter or dead rodent?
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2011, 05:27:41 PM »
Finally got the smell problem sorted (I hope)!

Took it to the dealer for the second time and they discovered the tube that carried my rear wash fluid had split and the stuff soaked up in the boot liner and along the inside of the boot too. This was replaced and so was the boot liner. The smell is going away gradually.

They cleaned my rear brakes, replaced my driver's side door seal and washed the car which was nice.

I also had some paint flaking away on the bonnet around the Abarth badge. They touched it up but it's coming away again. I assume I'm well within my rights to ask them to replace the bonnet this time?