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stokiedazza
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« on: February 23, 2010, 08:52:44 AM »
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over the pathetic squealing brakes? I can put on with the high pitched quiet one but not the one that sounds like a bloody lorry coming up to a round about. I was taking the misses work this morning and i realised that i had started to brake differently to avaoid the noise which is not only prob dangerous but why the hell should i?!?!?!??!?!? Platts have been fantastic but its now time to put some pressure on Abarth and Fiat. I know other people with Brembo brakes on different cars and theirs are fine. Sort it Abarth...or should i say Fiat  Thumb Down
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« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2010, 08:42:28 PM »
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I had the shims fitted on my Punto but they still squeel from time to time!
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« Reply #2 on: March 10, 2010, 12:00:58 PM »
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Ditto! Shims fitted a few thousand miles ago seemed to sort out the problem temporarily but now it is imitating a Leyland bus again.  I seem to get a 'two-note' squeak as if both brakes have started squeaking at the same time. I’m wondering whether they put copper grease on the shims and it has now washed off over the winter.  I shall have to ask …
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« Reply #3 on: March 10, 2010, 10:35:11 PM »
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There are new pads too, had them fitted when I got the shims, not heard anything since. That was nearly 12 months ago.
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« Reply #4 on: March 11, 2010, 06:54:13 PM »
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11 months, and 18000 miles later, no squeaks at all for me
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2010, 11:34:44 AM »
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Had the shims and pads fitted but recently started hearing a different type of squeal it is quieter than before and I've only done 7000 miles on the car but i brake gently most of the time
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stokiedazza
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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2010, 02:18:22 PM »
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there must be somthing they can do. No way i can put up with the load screach. Ive looked at other cars with Brembo brakes on and they dont seem to do it  Thumb Down
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« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2010, 11:32:24 AM »
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I'm sure mine are gradually getting louder again it is when I brake gently it does it when I increase the braking to be slightly heavier it stops
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« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2010, 12:20:30 PM »
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Just had a look into squealing brakes and found some bits and there seems to be other cars with brembo's that squeal aswell
Just found some causes into squealing brakes

Squealing brakes indicate one of two things - pad type or poor pad installation.

By pad type I refer to the triangle of inequality - in this case, clean pad/effective pad/quiet pad - and as they say, pick two. You can get a quieter pad, but you'll have to give up cleanliness or stopping power.

Generally pads that have better performance and dust characteristics squeal while cold - when they warm up the squeal is gone.

The other possibility, poor installation, means that an even backing compound is not in place. By removing the pads, cleaning the backing plate, reapplying a smooth and even backing you may lose this.

Also found out in some cases of squealing brakes just change the pad to another manufacture's pad has cured this

But then it could also be the caliper design and this is a reason why new car dealers just dismiss the problem and as alot of us have had the pads changed and shims put on this is why they may not be doing anymore
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« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2010, 01:03:49 PM »
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My daughters AGP brakes have just started squealing so when I was at the dealer last week having my service at Westover Sports Cars I spoke to the salesman about it. He said it was caused because the brake are high performance pads and are made of a harder material than normal brakes so do need to be heated up more to work properly. So a regular thrash and heavy breaking session should sort the problem out. He also said that the problem is more apparent in the winter/spring when it is cold and damp.

So drive faster and brake harder.
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« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2010, 02:46:46 PM »
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Quote "But then it could also be the caliper design and this is a reason why new car dealers just dismiss the problem and as alot of us have had the pads changed and shims put on ... "

Thanks!  Been in to SG Petch today. As usual, friendly staff, but all they seem to be able to think of doing is replace the pads and shim kit (again). Humm... another letter to FIAT I suspect - I should learn, ever since my 127 Sport I have been having problems with them. The file is getting bigger.

Anyone want a 9K miles GPA (with new brake pads)?   Wink
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« Reply #11 on: March 22, 2010, 03:47:44 PM »
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You could try changing the pads to another type, I thought the esseesse's pads were a harder compound?
I had the shims fitted and I have to clean the brakes out and re-grease every six months otherwise the high pitch squeel returns, I expected them to squeel again after winter though tbh.

You can try driving/braking harder but that only works in the very short term, as in as soon as the next time you want to stop. Smiley
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