I just found this thread which has not been posted in in a while. The original AGP has torque. A lot of torque. The amount of torque that makes me laugh at many beamers which their owners think may be superior, but they aren't. And the Mercs. And those trashy Jap cr@p cars. Just encountered one today which I teased to oblivion. LOL. Assume the Autobahn, 6th gear, doing around 70 mph (112 kph) behind some git who thinks he has any speed. He pulls over and I put the lead froot on Scorpi. Within 10 secs I do 110 - 120 mph (184 - 200 kph). Another 5 secs to 130 (220 kph). There is somewhat left on a 155 bhp car but not much, and it is easy enough to get to 135 (228 kph) which is way beyond the max speed of 130 mph in the manual. Hah, and there is still something left. And that is in 6th gear. Imagine I downshift to 5th. I will find out how much there is left at some stage, but not here, in the UK. It's a shame we have all those fast cars and can't drive them because the general populace is too stupid to pay attention on the roads. The cars are ready, some drivers are ready, others aren't, drinking coffee, talking on hand held mobiles, not indicating their intentions and hogging lanes. MY AGP rocks, even without the SS kit, and I take the challenge to any car out there. If they are faster, so be it, if not, just get out of my way.