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Tuning & Modifications => Abarth 500 => Topic started by: Blueey on April 09, 2009, 11:16:37 am

Title: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: Blueey on April 09, 2009, 11:16:37 am
A remap at a reasonable price, would you?
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: maccy. on April 09, 2009, 11:32:52 am
depends on what it is, who makes it etc.....
Id check that out first then if your happy, why not!......
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: MarkS2s on April 09, 2009, 12:39:09 pm
Certainly looks cheap enough, but as Maccy says find oput some more details first, like has anyone else in europe had this done?
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: Blueey on April 09, 2009, 03:07:40 pm
depends on what it is, who makes it etc.....
Id check that out first then if your happy, why not!......

For those who further info, heres the link  http://www.evolutionchips.co.uk/
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: Hozepipe on April 09, 2009, 03:25:04 pm
A remap at a reasonable price, would you?


Not a chance.
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: Blueey on April 09, 2009, 05:17:27 pm
I had a turbo Beetle remapped by these people and had no problem what's so ever, did over 45k miles in the car.
The car went like stink, it surprised many when it left them behind.

As for the A500 the car could easily take it without other mods that come with the SS kit.


Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: george38 on April 09, 2009, 07:15:06 pm
not for me - im more than happy with the standard a500 :)
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: TheSwede on April 16, 2009, 01:09:13 pm
Evolution chips - sounds interesting and the price is certainly more easy to swallow than the £2.5k SS upgrade.

Much as I love my little A500 I definatley want it to be quicker!!!
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: Sawbomartin on April 16, 2009, 01:20:02 pm
A remap at a reasonable price, would you?


Not a chance.

Why not? bad experience in the past?
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: Vroom on April 16, 2009, 01:28:11 pm
Whats the deal with remapping a brand new car?

I'd love to have it done, but how do you do it? Does it affect the warrenty?
Arent the ECU's read only, therefore do you need a new one?
And can you get remapping software so you can change it yourself?
Oh and what happens with the sport button? Does this still work?
So many questions lol

Cheers
Paul
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: John501 on April 16, 2009, 02:00:55 pm
Hi Vroom,
We have always said that this will not turn into the sort of forum where people jump on everyone and scream "use the search button" but I'm afraid that this has been done to death and is such a can of worms that I would like you to look at the some of the other re-map threads to try and get your answers.
Thanks
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: magicmole on April 16, 2009, 02:37:50 pm
Hi Chunkey

Is it possible to change any of the ECU parameters using Examiner?

E.g. - change steering characteristics in 'Sport' mode so that I could have a combination of 'Normal' steering with 'Sport' throttle response.
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: olopboy on April 16, 2009, 02:47:15 pm
Wouldn't we all magic :)

Well I would any way  :-[
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: Hozepipe on April 16, 2009, 04:15:46 pm
A remap at a reasonable price, would you?


Not a chance.

Why not? bad experience in the past?

No, I just don't want to compromise my investment or the integrety of the car. As John501 says, we've probably done this to death but anyways....

In the short term you have the reliability and warranty issues and in the long term you'd have a reduced resale value and lower buyer demand to contend with.

To illustrate the point, I'm just selling my 100% original Porsche 914 and have had over 165 enquiries and several offers in the last 3 days. The offers I've already turned down are considerably more than other 'upgraded' or 'refurbed' 914s that have been advertised for weeks, even though my car is hardly in show room condition.

No one wants to pay good money for cars that have been mucked about with for a whole host of reasons.
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: Blueey on April 16, 2009, 10:46:38 pm
A remap at a reasonable price, would you?


Not a chance.

Why not? bad experience in the past?

No, I just don't want to compromise my investment or the integrety of the car. As John501 says, we've probably done this to death but anyways....

In the short term you have the reliability and warranty issues and in the long term you'd have a reduced resale value and lower buyer demand to contend with.

To illustrate the point, I'm just selling my 100% original Porsche 914 and have had over 165 enquiries and several offers in the last 3 days. The offers I've already turned down are considerably more than other 'upgraded' or 'refurbed' 914s that have been advertised for weeks, even though my car is hardly in show room condition.

No one wants to pay good money for cars that have been mucked about with for a whole host of reasons.

If you have only had your car remapped how is a new owner going to know unless you tell them?  Never been an issue with me  in the passed, if the car is in immaculate condition and has a FSH should not be a problem.
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: Hozepipe on April 17, 2009, 05:45:55 pm
A remap at a reasonable price, would you?


Not a chance.

Why not? bad experience in the past?

No, I just don't want to compromise my investment or the integrety of the car. As John501 says, we've probably done this to death but anyways....

In the short term you have the reliability and warranty issues and in the long term you'd have a reduced resale value and lower buyer demand to contend with.

To illustrate the point, I'm just selling my 100% original Porsche 914 and have had over 165 enquiries and several offers in the last 3 days. The offers I've already turned down are considerably more than other 'upgraded' or 'refurbed' 914s that have been advertised for weeks, even though my car is hardly in show room condition.

No one wants to pay good money for cars that have been mucked about with for a whole host of reasons.

If you have only had your car remapped how is a new owner going to know unless you tell them?  Never been an issue with me  in the passed, if the car is in immaculate condition and has a FSH should not be a problem.

Any ECU changes will be time/date stamped. However, as you say, the buyer may choose not to investigate.

It'll probably be the replacement turbo that will give it away. :-X
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: Blueey on April 17, 2009, 05:53:49 pm
A remap at a reasonable price, would you?


Not a chance.

Why not? bad experience in the past?

No, I just don't want to compromise my investment or the integrety of the car. As John501 says, we've probably done this to death but anyways....

In the short term you have the reliability and warranty issues and in the long term you'd have a reduced resale value and lower buyer demand to contend with.

To illustrate the point, I'm just selling my 100% original Porsche 914 and have had over 165 enquiries and several offers in the last 3 days. The offers I've already turned down are considerably more than other 'upgraded' or 'refurbed' 914s that have been advertised for weeks, even though my car is hardly in show room condition.

No one wants to pay good money for cars that have been mucked about with for a whole host of reasons.

If you have only had your car remapped how is a new owner going to know unless you tell them?  Never been an issue with me  in the passed, if the car is in immaculate condition and has a FSH should not be a problem.

Any ECU changes will be time/date stamped. However, as you say, the buyer may choose not to investigate.

It'll probably be the replacement turbo that will give it away. :-X

Why do you say that, surely the same would apply to  the Fiat remap. I have never had a problem or breakdown of turbo or any other component in the past on any remap I have had done.  What I have had is better performance and better fuel consumption and no buyer has ever investigated. Incindently most have been told.
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: Hozepipe on April 17, 2009, 06:12:39 pm
Good for you.
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: Blueey on April 17, 2009, 09:44:26 pm
Good for you.

No contest then!
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: Hozepipe on April 18, 2009, 07:56:11 am
Good for you.

No contest then!

BTW, where do I get my free lunch?
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: Hozepipe on April 20, 2009, 03:52:51 pm
Good for you.

No contest then!

Blueey, I take it you've read mickread's experiences? :o

https://www.abarthforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,192.15.html

Caveat Emptor.
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: sandys on April 20, 2009, 04:23:15 pm
You can have turbo problems with an un mapped vehicle, this guy was probably quite unlucky or asked for quite an aggressive map 130-180 is a big ask, car would require more TLC, I had a remapped GT with  between 180-190bhp, ran it just over 3 years, did 60k in it and approx 6 trackdays or club sprints a year, car was driven hard, VERY hard, moreso than you could on the road but more importantly the car was well maintained, lots of oil changes etc, I had very minimal problems with it, hole in a boost pipe and split exhaust front pipe due to Alfas crap design and cost cutting no doubt but everything else was perfect in that time.
Title: Re: A wolf in sheep's clothing, maybe this is the answer (Remap content)
Post by: Blueey on April 20, 2009, 05:03:16 pm
You can have turbo problems with an un mapped vehicle, this guy was probably quite unlucky or asked for quite an aggressive map 130-180 is a big ask, car would require more TLC, I had a remapped GT with  between 180-190bhp, ran it just over 3 years, did 60k in it and approx 6 trackdays or club sprints a year, car was driven hard, VERY hard, moreso than you could on the road but more importantly the car was well maintained, lots of oil changes etc, I had very minimal problems with it, hole in a boost pipe and split exhaust front pipe due to Alfas crap design and cost cutting no doubt but everything else was perfect in that time.

There ya go, a man after my own heart.