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Offline sylvano

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"Big" Engine Upgrade (about 300HP)
« on: December 09, 2014, 11:34:39 am »
In our abarth spanish forum, we are discussing about that topic. We are talking about a abarh unit powered up to 300HP and his owner is selling it now for 61000£. The main question if that unit and his upgrade are worth the effort (£££). A big upgrade like that, does it cost 61000£?? Do you know some tuner that ups your Abarth to 300HP? For example, TMC Motorsport just to 250HP (http://www.google.co.uk/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=2887). We need exact information to compare,
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    Offline Brian1612

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    Re: "Big" Engine Upgrade (about 300HP)
    « Reply #1 on: December 09, 2014, 12:36:22 pm »
    Thats a lot of money for what is still just a basic A500.... not worth it for what it cost, can go buy a alfa 4c for that sort of money...
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    Offline sylvano

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    Re: "Big" Engine Upgrade (about 300HP)
    « Reply #2 on: December 09, 2014, 12:43:50 pm »
    Quote from: Brian1612 on December 09, 2014, 12:36:22 pm
    Thats a lot of money for what is still just a basic A500.... not worth it for what it cost, can go buy a alfa 4c for that sort of money...

    My opinion is the same that yours. The question is for knowing if some tuner offers a similar upgrade kit to see the cost (approximately)
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    Offline sylvano

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    Re: "Big" Engine Upgrade (about 300HP)
    « Reply #3 on: December 09, 2014, 12:56:48 pm »
    I don't find info for example for the cost of the Romeo Ferraris Cinquone Stradale (300HP) ....  ???
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    Re: "Big" Engine Upgrade (about 300HP)
    « Reply #4 on: December 09, 2014, 01:00:06 pm »
    The question is, why do you spend 61K to make an A500 a bit quicker? Shave 1 second off 0-60? WOW SUCH IMPRESSIVE.

    I'd rather keep the A500 standard and then get an ariel atom if it's acceleration and crap like that you want.

    Or a GTR. Or even an R1 mini cooper pushing 4 secs 0-60, much more fun, for 12k.
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    Re: "Big" Engine Upgrade (about 300HP)
    « Reply #5 on: December 09, 2014, 01:04:55 pm »
    To answer your questionI haven't seen a 300 bhp tuning mod for the 500... Possibly that american company that is on here might know something, road race motorsports is there name.
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    Re: "Big" Engine Upgrade (about 300HP)
    « Reply #6 on: December 09, 2014, 03:47:37 pm »
    Contact pogea racing germany. 330 hp certified tuv  2 year warranty

    Look at project gulfy for more info it is there now for the 330 upgrade
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    Re: "Big" Engine Upgrade (about 300HP)
    « Reply #7 on: December 09, 2014, 04:18:41 pm »
    Quote from: Medihummer on December 09, 2014, 03:47:37 pm
    Contact pogea racing germany. 330 hp certified tuv  2 year warranty

    Look at project gulfy for more info it is there now for the 330 upgrade

    Thanks mate; I will check that thread
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    Re: "Big" Engine Upgrade (about 300HP)
    « Reply #8 on: December 09, 2014, 04:26:14 pm »
    MTech Engineering (if you can find them) apparently do 300bhp, but change the engine to a 2L turbo
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    Re: "Big" Engine Upgrade (about 300HP)
    « Reply #9 on: December 09, 2014, 05:00:08 pm »
    Quote from: cjfraser on December 09, 2014, 04:26:14 pm
    MTech Engineering (if you can find them) apparently do 300bhp, but change the engine to a 2L turbo

    Good.info!!! How many notes will be that? Ha ha
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    Re: "Big" Engine Upgrade (about 300HP)
    « Reply #10 on: December 10, 2014, 09:50:28 am »
    It is easy to get 300bhp out the engine

    The cost

    1400 for gt25 turbo

    400 for bits and bobs like oil pipes and water pipes to the turbo

    1500 for rods and pistons

    600 for cam 

    Then thears labor to put it together

    400 for remap on standard ecu

    You can try the standard clutch and flywheel but I knacked them at 200hp 242ftlb

    Standard gearbox let go at 250 hp and 240ftlb

    Drive shafts want last much after that


    Now mine is at 395hp and 350ftlb

    Basically my car is now on all asetto corse running gear

    Gearbox ,engine mounts, drive shafts  flywheel 

    With a ap clutch.

    I think I might be at the max the turbo I have now at 1.6 bar so I might be going to Change it and go for 450 
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    Re: "Big" Engine Upgrade (about 300HP)
    « Reply #11 on: December 10, 2014, 10:12:56 am »
    Quote from: dan vbv on December 10, 2014, 09:50:28 am
    It is easy to get 300bhp out the engine

    The cost

    1400 for gt25 turbo

    400 for bits and bobs like oil pipes and water pipes to the turbo

    1500 for rods and pistons

    600 for cam 

    Then thears labor to put it together

    400 for remap on standard ecu

    You can try the standard clutch and flywheel but I knacked them at 200hp 242ftlb

    Standard gearbox let go at 250 hp and 240ftlb

    Drive shafts want last much after that


    Now mine is at 395hp and 350ftlb

    Basically my car is now on all asetto corse running gear

    Gearbox ,engine mounts, drive shafts  flywheel 

    With a ap clutch.

    I think I might be at the max the turbo I have now at 1.6 bar so I might be going to Change it and go for 450

    Plus labour costs, right? But how have you upgraded from 250 to 395? Just with parts of Asetto? The turbo for example follow being GT25?
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    Re: "Big" Engine Upgrade (about 300HP)
    « Reply #12 on: December 10, 2014, 10:49:11 am »
    256hp and 242 ftlb is on standard internals  with just  bigger turbo and injectors and boost sensor

    I have a gt2860rs

    I used the gt25 in my last post as what to use if you only want 300hp

    From 250 to 400 it was

    Pistons and rods  custom cam. And head porting  bigger injectors again  bigger turbo again  and a feu different sensors

    That's it  I am thinking about going to a gtx2867r as I think I have maxed the gt2860rs


    The only reason I went to the assets corse stuff is I mullerd the 5 speed so went to a 6 speed

    To go to 6 speed the engine has to move 40mm to the left  witch ment I needed the ac engine mounts

    The lag is not as bad as it lookes I get full boost on the road at 4200 rpm

    Bigger turbo might hold the 350 for later

    If I can get 350ftlb at 7000 it works out at 490ish hp   But I am not holding my breath on that one
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    Re: "Big" Engine Upgrade (about 300HP)
    « Reply #13 on: December 10, 2014, 12:07:15 pm »
    Dan show us some pictures and a movie of your car that is an enormous amount of power out of a 1400cc
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    Re: "Big" Engine Upgrade (about 300HP)
    « Reply #14 on: December 10, 2014, 12:09:44 pm »
    yeah, let's see  some of the awesomeness (engine)!!! 
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