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Tuning & Modifications => Abarth 500 => Topic started by: jaya on March 08, 2013, 03:50:53 pm

Title: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: jaya on March 08, 2013, 03:50:53 pm
Hows This for Custom Turbo better than the Garrett! IHI 5 Stage 4 turbo Rated at over 300bhp but will be running on  my little 500 around the 250mark  :)
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Post by: dan vbv on March 08, 2013, 04:45:20 pm
looks similer to mine

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Post by: jaya on March 08, 2013, 05:22:36 pm
Yours the TMC version tho?
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Post by: dan vbv on March 08, 2013, 05:40:43 pm
yes 

so what else are you changing apart from the turbo to get 250

you need
different boost sensors
new injectors
big inter cooler
new exhaust 
and a good induction kit

and how much boost are you going to run
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: Griffs998 on March 08, 2013, 06:23:20 pm
its only better to run a bigger turbo significantly under its potential when you're tracking the car as you'll benefit from lower boost and therefore lower temperatures helping efficiency and reliability while also being able to keep the revs up and the turbo spooled - on the road however the bigger turbo will mean increased lag and a higher boost threshold - dont confuse those 2 terms - either build the engine so you can make the most of the bigger turbo or run a smaller  turbo nearer its maximum potential - allowing better response/lower boost threshold - the increased heat generated from running a turbo nearer its maximum is an acceptable tradeoff as what isnt used in huge amounts on the road especially at that power level. -

Dan - unless your engine has forged/strengthened internals or is running methanol 250hp on standard pistons will melt something especially once the weather begins to get warmer
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Post by: Griffs998 on March 08, 2013, 06:25:00 pm
what has somehow morphed into what - what meaning wide open throttle
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Post by: Griffs998 on March 08, 2013, 06:26:17 pm
read what as wide open throttle - it keeps changing what i want i type
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Post by: John501 on March 08, 2013, 07:13:58 pm
I think the spell checker is changing it for you.
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: Griffs998 on March 08, 2013, 08:53:36 pm
it actually works then does it - it must have been on its holidays for a considerable amount of time judging by some of the efforts of forum members :p - but yes i assumed as much, i just wanted to make sure what i typed could be understood
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: dan vbv on March 08, 2013, 09:14:17 pm
mine is running 1.5 bar of boost  the standard internals are safe up to 1.6 bar 

with the forged piston and rods and cams it can be turned up to 1.8 bar safely 

so that should be close to 300hp


if that is more than the car can handle i can turn it down  to maybe 1.65bar and run it safe


as for how it drives on the road it is far better than when it had the ihi turbo

with the ihi turbo i got 242ftlb at to low a rpm for the car to put down  now it only makes 240ftlb but it makes it at higher revs and the car is better for it

as it builds power smoothly all the way to the red line

insted of making all the power by 4000rpm and then running out of puff 


so in conclusion for me the bigger turbo is perfect  you can drive it round town like its a 1.4 non turbo and when you having fun and use all the revs it is just as fast as a astra vxr 

i mean come on the ihi has a power band from 2000 to 4000rpm  when you a driving fast how often are you that far down the rpm range     

my turbo starts to spool at 2800rpm and makes full boost by 3400 and makes it all the way to the red line

it is perfect for on the motor way all i have to do is scweeze  the throttle and boost builds and  you get pushed back in to you seat


and  my 7.5l inter cooler will help keep things cool
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: Griffs998 on March 08, 2013, 09:48:43 pm
i perhaps wasnt making myself clear Dan - when i was talking about running a smaller turbo hard as opposed to a bigger turbo within itself i was referring to the OP's turbo - he said the IHI was rated for 300 hp and he would be running it at 250hp - i was saying that instead of getting a turbo rated for 300 and running it at 250 get a turbo like yours rated for 260 and run it at 250 - you will still achieve target power with a turbo that wil be more responsive - i wasn't comparing your turbo to the stock IHI - which is good for pottering around on the road but when the pace is upped it is found wanting -

I assume the turbo TMC fittied for you is GTT's one? - if it is you wont get 300 hp - lagerlout os barely achieving that with a GT25/28 hybrid and a host of other modifications - instead of building the engine i would just fit GTT's powermist kit run a bit more boost and you'll have pretty much the optimum balance between performance/reliability/drivability/cost
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: syhm1984 on March 09, 2013, 02:12:35 am
will be interesting how much power I be getting with mine after rebuild
-GT2530
-G-Tech Forged piston & ConRod
-700cc injectors
-Aftermarket Cams
-Valve and spring
-Forged intercooler
-BMC OTA
-Motec M400 ecu
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: jaya on March 09, 2013, 09:41:20 am
I haven't just changed the turbo and i did look at the GT20/25 conversion but the turbo which i got built for me i have been told its better than that and with no Lag its just IHI 5 housing with different parts 360 ball bearings and some other parts i dont quite understand lol, Also iv got a Larger Front mounted Intercooler, Induction Kit is the Sanspeed one but Customised to draw the cold in from where the old intercoolers were, Exhaust staying the same but Decat, Uprated Drive Shaft, Uprated Clutch And the old Boost gauge taken out and Changed for a different one but in the same housing, As for bigger injectors iv told i dont need them and Same for Map sensors But its already been map by angel on the old set up and is going into AMD for two days when i get it back sometime next week to be set up again seeing as they have the rolling road and offered the best price :) and iv been told all that will make me 250 bhp and then in the summer if i still got the car i was looking at forged pistons and Nos kit just for some more fun
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Post by: J_a_m_e_s on March 09, 2013, 10:00:08 am
Dan that turbo is huge  :o any heat shields fitted to it?
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Post by: syhm1984 on March 09, 2013, 03:49:14 pm
maybe also consider relocating the battery with a small Dry Cell under the seat. Since you dun have those stock intercooler there, when you lose the battery, you can actually draw cold air from where the intercooler was into the induction. That's what I am doing with the BMC OTA
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: jaya on March 09, 2013, 03:51:36 pm
would that not be too visible to eye tho and lot go big cables on show??
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: dan vbv on March 09, 2013, 05:07:02 pm
i dont see how turbos can be rated for hp  as you can  make

its boost pressure that my turbo is rated for   my turbo is rated at 1.8 bar i am only running it at 1.5 

so i am not running close to what the turbo can do

i am only doing  the rods pistons and cams  and some port work to the head witch should give me around 300hp

how are you going to get more fuel in as the standard ones just cant supply the fuel needed to keep the engine from turning in to a lot of small bits in the sump

Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: syhm1984 on March 09, 2013, 05:12:23 pm
well, i guess after the car is done. . . we can have a look on the dyno sheet
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: jaya on March 09, 2013, 05:16:23 pm
too be honest i just told the garage what i want from my car ie how much power and they sorted it all do is just pay the blll ;) but i know that the turbo boost was running at 2 bar and could go more hence they changing the gauge inside that bit confused me but i will check the correct figures on tuesday when hopefully its ready as for the fuel bit im just going by what the garage told me so will know then if i have to uprate the injectors its no biggie :) 
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: dan vbv on March 09, 2013, 05:21:51 pm
2 bar  :o 8)  that should give you more than 300hp  :thumb:

but the standard internals will go bang at 1.6 bar 
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: jaya on March 09, 2013, 05:29:23 pm
Thats why i only want 250bhp and its going to AMD for two days the moment i get it back for checky £400 map and set up the boost as i haven't a clue lol
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: jaya on March 09, 2013, 05:30:32 pm
dan vbv how long did yours take to be done? mines almost been a month!
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: syhm1984 on March 09, 2013, 05:33:01 pm
2 bar  :o 8)  that should give you more than 300hp  :thumb:

but the standard internals will go bang at 1.6 bar

Standard internal will go bang at 1.6bar, that is true. I have proven that already, Running 2bar with the stock 1.4 with turbo that size. If it really going to happen, you probably get full boost at 5500rpm and redline at 6000rpm  :thumb:
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: jaya on March 09, 2013, 05:39:21 pm
Im still confused on all this boost stuff, but my car was running almost 1.2/3 boost on the gauge before i had any mods due to angel remap wont it still be running the same with this new turbo before it goes to AMD??
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Post by: Griffs998 on March 09, 2013, 06:37:26 pm
a quick word of warning dan - upping the boost dosent necessarily give you a proportionate increase in power - the point of turbos is to increase the amount of air that is rammed into the engine - when you start getting near the maximum for the turbo the compressor looses its efficiency and drastically increases charge air temps thus reducing the amount of air rammed into the engine which has a negative increase in power - so while going from 1.5 bar to 1.8 bar is a 20% hike in pressure you may only be getting a 5% increase in air into the cylinders as a result of the charge air being excessively  heated by the compressor starting to operate outside of its efficiency
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: dan vbv on March 09, 2013, 10:06:49 pm
yes but the turbo is ment to be run at 1.8 bar i just dont have the pistons and rods yet to run it that high

so the turbo is ment to be efficient at 1.8 bar  :thumb:

Im still confused on all this boost stuff, but my car was running almost 1.2/3 boost on the gauge before i had any mods due to angel remap wont it still be running the same with this new turbo before it goes to AMD??

the standard boost gage can not be trusted for tuning  but it might run the standard map but i dont know how well it will run like that and i would not want to drive it like that for long just in case


sorry if it sounds harsh  but from what i can see

you will have a engine that  is not going to get enough fuel and is going to be running 0.4 bar of boost more than the pistons can stand before melting  :'(

but i hope you prove me wrong  ;D as i have been so many times before

mine took 3 days from dropping the car of to picking it up  :thumb:  dropped it off on a Wednesday and picked it up on sat 
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: Griffs998 on March 09, 2013, 10:37:35 pm
im not meaning to sound like im picking on you but just because a turbo is specified to run at 1.8bar dosent mean its efficient at doing it - look at a compressor map and you'll have islands with %'s next to them- thats how well the compressor works at any given boost pressure - any turbo nearing its max will see a drop in efficiency - meaning an increase in boost pressure will see a less than proportionate increase in air supplied to the cylinders - but anyway i wish you well with the rest of the build - why are you building the engine as opposed to running a methanol kit? have you got any dyno graphs showing where you are at the moment - i know you've said in car footage is problematic to get but i dont think i would be the only one interested to see some
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: dan vbv on March 09, 2013, 11:08:57 pm
the reason i want a built engine instead of meth is safty   if the meth fails engine could go bang and built engine i wont need to fill a second tank  as i use my car every day i want to keep it user friendly

and i just with the car came like this from abarth

i have got some dyno graphs of my car car 

before and after 

i have lost power but i have lost it where the car does not need it and is never used in




Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: Griffs998 on March 09, 2013, 11:17:09 pm
appreciate the pics Dan - i think you'll find any reputable methanol kit has a fail safe that if anything were to fail the car would drop out of boost - thats a lovely looking curve with the big turbo, once the turbo is spooled holds a lovely flat torque curve and must slam into the red line - if you're gonna build the motor do what lagerlout did and bore it from 1368cc to 1.5 l - will help with off boost torque (if you ever use that) and will bring the turbo in sooner aswell as having lower cylinder pressures aiding reliability - is that the garrett that GTT originally put together
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: dan vbv on March 09, 2013, 11:36:14 pm
no its a custom one on tmc web site  ment to get 230 to 240 hp

i am thinking of the big bore but

pistons and rods 

fast road cams to  help spool the turbo faster and hold more power at the red line

and a big bore kit to spool turbo faster

and a little bit of port work  just to help all over

the only thing i dont know is with the big bore  it will make the cylinder walls thiner and less strong so i am not completely sold on the big bore

Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: dan vbv on March 09, 2013, 11:51:14 pm
i could do the cams  soon  with the over time i am working but i will be cheaper to only take the engine to bits once  and do the rods and the pistons at the same time  :thumb:

and it is going to have to be run in  that going to be hell for me when the time comes

right dan you have now got 300 hp  bit only use 1/4 throttle for 1000 miles to bed it in 
but i think it will be worth it at the end of it


i need to do the brakes first witch is why i am going for brembos under some pro race 3 wheels next

after the exhaust get changed 

the list goes on
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Post by: syhm1984 on March 10, 2013, 06:26:28 am


the list goes on

Same boat  :thumb:
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: jaya on March 10, 2013, 10:35:31 am
Snap I've also got to do the brakes once I've finished the engine ;)


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Post by: dan vbv on March 10, 2013, 12:54:16 pm
i have been looking at boring it out to 1.6 but i dont think the extra work involved will be worth it 

and it will make it easier to blow a head gasket and make the cylinder walls thicker so

as the car is my daily driver  i need it off the road as little time as posable

so the list of things to do is as follows

mm cat back exhaust

abarth brembo brakes

17inch  team dynamic pro race 3 wheels in black

forged piston and rods

fast road cams 

after that i think it will be a well sorted hot hatch   :thumb:  i just hope i can do it by the end of the year  will just have to see
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: jaya on March 10, 2013, 01:30:41 pm
what price have you been looking at to get it bored out to 1.6? including work?
I've been quted just over £1k for the forged pistons and heads polished if i remember correctly


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Post by: jaya on March 10, 2013, 01:35:53 pm
another pic I've got of the bigger intercooler as well
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Post by: Griffs998 on March 10, 2013, 01:48:44 pm
where are you getting the pistons/rods/cams - you wont bore in out to 1.6 l - the cylinders will collapse into each other - 1.5 l is really the limit - lagerlout has a picture on his thread of what the walls will look like with this done - he hasnt encountered any difficulty and his car has been a track slag so i think its safe to say its reliably - but as you say its whether its worth it - for me it would be knowing that its the best it can be but others have different priorities - bets of luck with it Dan and to you Jaya - i look forward with great interest t see these builds progressing -
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Post by: dan vbv on March 10, 2013, 01:51:32 pm
sorry i meant 1.5

but to change the pistons for forged ones  and the rods i dont think the engine has to be taken out  but i could be wrong

if i had it bored it would have to be taken out and totaly striped into a bear block witch will cost alot more  than just changing the pistons and the rods


 i just cant see the gains being worth it to bore it out

 
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Post by: Griffs998 on March 10, 2013, 01:56:54 pm
to totally satisfy yourself you could get a quote from somewhere - i dont know who would do the work though- lagerlout has been using a touring car firm - but yes i agree with you Dan that it could be quite a lot of extra money and faff for not huge gains - assuming its not silly money, for me it would be worth it knowing that it was as good as it really good be - but yes from any sort of value for money argument its hard to justify - if youre happy with the off boost performance and turbo threshold as it is now then thats fine
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Post by: Griffs998 on March 10, 2013, 01:58:07 pm
are TMC supplying the pistons/rods - have the cams you want to be using been tested, is there any info on them - 'turbo' cams in the past have been slightly iffy affairs - i know G -tech sell cams
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Post by: dan vbv on March 10, 2013, 02:22:30 pm


i am sure that lagerlout blow his head gasket

yes the piston rods and cams are the ones that tmc have on thear web site

daron reckons they will help spool the turbo sooner and hold the power longer

i am happy with the off boost power

at motor way speeds i can just put my foot down and not have to change gear and the boost is thear so lag is not a problem
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Post by: rallyman on March 10, 2013, 03:11:04 pm
Interesting conversation guys. I am just building an engine for my 500 AC that I am converting to be a rally car.
As I am forced to run a 29mm restrictor and cannot port the head, I have to run as high compression as I can and flow as much air as possible, up to say 5000 rpm when the restrictor really begins to limit the air flow and boost.
I have CPS forged pistons with 10.5 compression and am starting with the Garret GT1446, although I have a GT2056 and a GT25 to try (but expect them to compromise the low speed torque too much). The twin intercoolers are being changed for a front mount, and the 500AC injectors are already larger than stock (I believe). Target is 230hp and 350Nm, but I am not sure if the restrictor will allow the airflow ...
Anyway, a lot of sense being spoken by Dan and Griffs. I wanted to know if you are running the Motec M400 and if it can still run the speedo, gauges etc. Also does anyone do uprated head bolts and head gasket ? I will be using race fuel so a lot of boost anf ignition around peak torque !
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Post by: dan vbv on March 10, 2013, 03:41:40 pm
coool

i have no idea about what a m400 thingy is

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Post by: syhm1984 on March 10, 2013, 03:43:04 pm
are TMC supplying the pistons/rods - have the cams you want to be using been tested, is there any info on them - 'turbo' cams in the past have been slightly iffy affairs - i know G -tech sell cams

I got G Tech Cams/Piston/ConRod. They said the cams will work with the standard valve and springs but I am not going to risk it.
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Post by: dan vbv on March 10, 2013, 07:32:47 pm
whats wrong with the standard valves and springs

its not like you are going to rev it hard enough to cause valve float

i don't no if any after market valves or springs but i have not had a good look i think it would be a custom job

is it to much to ask to have a 1.4 turbo with the power of a 2.5 turbo   

thear is only two ways to make a engine more powerful 
1 make the bang on the top of the piston bigger
2 make it rev harder 

so thats what the forged pistons and rods are for  so the bang at the to of the piston bigger

and the cams do two things it can let the engine rev hight and make the bang bigger  at a higher rpm :thumb:
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Post by: Lagerlout on March 15, 2013, 10:42:52 pm
Just so you know, if you do go above 250 hp, the first thing to go will be the CV joints. The box will be OK.

To upgrade them you'll need to fit stronger driveshafts, with CV's from the AC car. Also, the driveshafts need to be custom you can't use AC driveshafts as they are designed for the 6 speed box. There is loads of info on this in my thread.

PS my head gasket went only because the fan on my car was not reconnected after it had some work performed on it. An unfortunate accident.
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Post by: dan vbv on March 15, 2013, 11:25:16 pm
so our cv joints are next to go

how will i know when it happens 

whear did you get yours and how much
Title: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: Nadeem on March 15, 2013, 11:48:51 pm
For the cv joints keep an eye out for leaking grease from the rubber boots.  Also when the steering is turned when going around corners you'll hear a clicking or knocking as the wheels turn.
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Post by: jaya on March 16, 2013, 01:34:31 pm
Iv got the drive shaft already uprated from the 190bhp one :) also just got my car back it run just fine on the standard injectors and map sensors and standard map but only hit 205bhp so i need to upgrade them to hit 250 mark and get the remap
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Post by: jaya on March 16, 2013, 01:37:25 pm
done it
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Post by: dan vbv on March 16, 2013, 01:39:24 pm
sorry but  you have to change some sensors


i  told you so

 :neener: :neener: :neener: :neener:


sorry i just had to

how about the injectors

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Post by: jaya on March 16, 2013, 01:50:47 pm
what sensors did you change?? injectors i still haven't but after speaking to a number of mappers I'm going to upgrade them next week but i still now have to wait a month to get my car mapped!! but at the moment is 205 bhp 301nm

once its done i saved over 2k on the other places offering 250 bhp with the garage i went to :)

Also did you guys have you fog lights removed for the intercooler to fit??
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Post by: Nadeem on March 16, 2013, 05:46:40 pm
Interesting print out to compare sport/normal.  You must be :D with the results so far.
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Post by: jaya on March 16, 2013, 07:21:52 pm
Yeah i love the sound tho is still the standard exhaust but decate and its pops like crazy  :)
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Post by: dan vbv on March 16, 2013, 09:35:45 pm
no my intercooler just clears the fogs

i had to change map sensors

200hp on standard map  so what boost is it running now  is it 1.2 bar or is it higher deu to so meny bits  being changed   

is there a set boost you are going to take it to  like 1.5 so it will be safe on the pistons and rods and see what you get

or are you going to just up the boost until you get 250 and leave it at that

looking forward to seeing the graph when it is done  :thumb: :thumb:


Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: jaya on March 17, 2013, 02:44:58 pm
im not quite sure on what boost is running as they was suppose to change the gauge when they went to swap them over the engine went in to limb mode so there making a resistor to sort that problem but on the original  gauge its boosts to 1.5 and settles around the 1.2 mark but jumps about like crazy so dont really know untill either the gauge gets changed or when the mappers sort it out, i was going stright to 250 bhp with the host but after reading a few of your threads and others I've ordered the pistons and rods cams now so want somethink near 300 which my turbo was built for  :)
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: dan vbv on March 18, 2013, 07:34:21 pm
after all that work its coming back to bits  poor guy how put it back together

good luck :thumb:
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Post by: jaya on April 19, 2013, 04:22:17 pm
After all that work Looks like I've Just blown the Head Gasket or one of the Pistons


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Post by: J_a_m_e_s on April 19, 2013, 07:42:27 pm
Ouch!
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Post by: syhm1984 on April 20, 2013, 02:35:50 am
welcome to the "melted factory piston club"
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Post by: topman89 on August 18, 2014, 04:02:30 pm
Did you ever get to 300bhp??
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Post by: jaya on August 18, 2014, 10:04:29 pm
not at this moment I'm still waiting for court case on the car as had major issues with the engine builder doing a terrible  job only found this out when i went to a super specialist, so once i get the money off the original guy from the court its another rebuild and then yeah i will get there as the original builder could not fix the faults with the car which he had coursed, and almost coursed it to totally blow up and catch fire as had major leaks!! craziness
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Post by: topman89 on August 19, 2014, 07:49:05 am
Bloody hell mate, :-\ the thread has made good reading so far, one of the best I've come across.  sorry to hear about your problems. Good luck getting what your owed!!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: dan vbv on September 15, 2014, 12:08:47 pm
Well mines was not Much better

November last year  my gear box went bang

So it has had massive amount of work now it's

6speed box  from ac car

Gt2860rs turbo

Forged pistons and rods

Cylinder head porting

Power wise  put it this way. The goal is 300ftlb at 7000 rpm

Work it out

Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: topman89 on September 15, 2014, 12:47:39 pm
Well mines was not Much better

November last year  my gear box went bang

So it has had massive amount of work now it's

6speed box  from ac car

Gt2860rs turbo

Forged pistons and rods

Cylinder head porting

Power wise  put it this way. The goal is 300ftlb at 7000 rpm

Work it out

To help you out its around 390bhp .... So what do you intend to do with all that? Apart from sitting on the spot trying to get some form of traction?  ???
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: dan vbv on September 15, 2014, 01:03:53 pm
It's my daily driver

0 to 60 pointless

 How fast it is from 60 to 120 is more important to me

Fast over takes.   

And to speed at 2500 rpm in top I am doing 70mph

It's max revs will be 7500

It will never pull to the red line   210mph

I don't think I will be taking it past 160 any time soon  unless I take a German road trip
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: Jamie500 on September 16, 2014, 11:10:35 pm
That is mental, in a good way - major respect to you! However, I don't think you'd get anything like enough traction to make it really that viable? I don't think it would make a remotely usable or enjoyable car. Never mind from standing, you'd struggle to get enough traction in-gear! But then, I could be completely wrong...it could be insanely amazing :)
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: dan vbv on September 17, 2014, 07:11:45 am
So far.  398hp and 350ftlb at 1.6 bar
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Post by: sjbrad89 on September 17, 2014, 09:18:34 am
Dan have you got any videos of this animal of yours?

Would be interesting to see!
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Post by: topman89 on September 17, 2014, 10:10:07 am
Dan have you got any videos of this animal of yours?

Would be interesting to see!

Certainly would!  :whistle:
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: dan vbv on September 17, 2014, 12:06:03 pm
Not yet 

I pic it up from mappers at 3.15 straight from work

Started at 7.10 can't be arssed now

Can't wait 
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: sjbrad89 on September 17, 2014, 12:30:18 pm
Not long now! keep us informed wont you?
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: dan vbv on September 17, 2014, 01:57:08 pm
Will do

For the past 2 month I have been driving a mazda3 1.6

My car is going to be mentle

Thay gave me the option to try 1.8 bar witch should have given 420hp

But  I want some long term reliability  and the aim was 400hp

If its not enough  I can try a meth kit and 2 bar

 ;D
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: sjbrad89 on September 17, 2014, 02:12:25 pm
With all of these power upgrades what have you done to the handling side of the car i.e. brakes, suspension etc?
You will be needing a new set of tyres every week hahah
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: dan vbv on September 17, 2014, 07:32:49 pm
It spools the same as when it had 255 and the peak power is at the same place

But theirs 100ftlb more.

The car has. Bilstien kit  and uprated pads 

Plate LSD in a modified m32 6 speed box

(Assets corse drive train)

1st gear.  Pointless 
2nd gear.  On a warm dry day     Pointless
3rd.  Put you foot down and go baby go
4th. My god it's still going
5th.  I think I need new under wear   
6th.   As yet un tested

It's now raining and took my mam for a spin.

Now removing her finger nails from my leg and the passenger handle

Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: spezial1 on September 17, 2014, 07:45:39 pm
You took your Mam for a spin! Ha ha.
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: Sphilli2004 on September 19, 2014, 10:57:12 am
Jaya, who created your frankenturbo?
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: jaya on September 19, 2014, 05:46:04 pm
Is now being Created by Bernies Blowers in Essex its actually off the car at the moment while its getting rebuilt and upgraded being even more bored out with a larger 40mm wheel put in, and as for the outside its also getting another make over with this LED grill and vents and rear spoiler http://images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/87523/167860114.jpg http://images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/87523/34406715.jpg http://images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/87523/143727861.jpg
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: Sphilli2004 on September 19, 2014, 05:52:18 pm
Is now being Created by Bernies Blowers in Essex its actually off the car at the moment while its getting rebuilt and upgraded being even more bored out with a larger 40mm wheel put in, and as for the outside its also getting another make over with this LED grill and vents and rear spoiler http://images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/87523/167860114.jpg http://images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/87523/34406715.jpg http://images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/87523/143727861.jpg
Looks awesome fitted
I wonder if the tinted lights are legal in the UK?
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: Kimusubi007 on September 19, 2014, 09:59:29 pm
Is now being Created by Bernies Blowers in Essex its actually off the car at the moment while its getting rebuilt and upgraded being even more bored out with a larger 40mm wheel put in, and as for the outside its also getting another make over with this LED grill and vents and rear spoiler http://images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/87523/167860114.jpg http://images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/87523/34406715.jpg http://images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/87523/143727861.jpg
Hey,

where are you sourcing the vents from?
I could only find them for left side of the engine bay, seems that the picture has hem for both sides.
Cheers
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: jaya on September 19, 2014, 11:59:15 pm
this is the website, the Kit comes with a hood liner as well which no other kit comes with so its keeps all the electronics and engine from getting wet also shipping is 150 dollars on that item and 300 dollars if order everything which i have just done http://www.acscomposite.com/store/?~~mode=product&~~id=28437929#!/Dual-Extractor-Hood-Port-System-for-Abarth-500-or-500T/p/26818649/category=6919089
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: dan vbv on September 20, 2014, 08:15:39 am
I like that bumber a lot

But I am not keen on the bonnet vents.   

But for me the fun is in looking like a np abarth 500. 
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: Kimusubi007 on September 20, 2014, 10:44:53 am
Yeah i agree the vents are not perfect, but the only other solution is a whole new bonnet with custom vents like like the Romeo Ferraris etc,  $$$, or pogea etc, $$$
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: dan vbv on September 20, 2014, 02:11:44 pm
Lift the back of the bonnet by 1 inch so the hole bonnet width is a vent
Title: Re: Hows this for Custom Turbo
Post by: Jamie500 on September 21, 2014, 01:10:16 pm
Is now being Created by Bernies Blowers in Essex its actually off the car at the moment while its getting rebuilt and upgraded being even more bored out with a larger 40mm wheel put in, and as for the outside its also getting another make over with this LED grill and vents and rear spoiler http://images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/87523/167860114.jpg http://images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/87523/34406715.jpg http://images-cdn.ecwid.com/images/87523/143727861.jpg
Looks awesome fitted
I wonder if the tinted lights are legal in the UK?

Can someone direct me to the black moustache trim? That car looks so much better than my red one...