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Tuning & Modifications => Abarth 500 => Topic started by: AlexK on October 15, 2010, 03:43:31 pm

Title: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: AlexK on October 15, 2010, 03:43:31 pm
Koni FSD ("Frequency Selective Damping") dampers are specifically designed to combine the ultimate in comfort and road-holding.

FSD technology uses a revolutionary new technique to combine the benefits of firm and comfortable suspension in a single perfect shock absorber: firm for sporty driving on even road surfaces, comfortable for a smooth ride on uneven road surfaces.

This new feature is an integrated part of the hydraulic valving system inside the damper. Consequently, there are no additional cables, sensors, or any other electronic devices needed to operate this system.

How does it work?

The split between comfort and handling can be defined in two frequency areas:


By changing the damping force level in relation to the frequency of the movement, it is possible to resolve the conflict in terms of comfort and handling ever present in conventional dampers.

In standard shock absorbers, the main damping characteristic is defined by the oil flow going through the piston assembly.  Combining it with the FSD technology, Koni added a special valve, which controls an oil flow parallel to the one going through the piston rod.  This parallel oil flow is closed by the FSD technology, giving a rise in damping force almost linear to the time that the piston is moving in one direction.  Put simply: the FSD system is a hydraulic amplifier that delays the build up of pressure.

The Koni FSD dampers are now included in the esseesse kits for the Abarth 500C and Abarth Punto Evo.

Available now from the Abarthisti Shop

Abarthisti members wishing to buy the dampers separately can now buy them from Abarthisti (http://www.abarthisti.co.uk/koni-fsd/), and we've secured a number of these kits at a special price.

A full set of four dampers for the Abarth 500 normally retails at £572 + VAT = £686.  However, we've negotiated a special deal that allows us to offer the kit for just £560 inc. VAT – a saving of over £120!

How to order

1.   Visit Koni FSD at Abarthisti (http://www.abarthisti.co.uk/koni-fsd/).
2.   Enter the quantity required (one kit = four dampers).
3.   Complete the form at the bottom of the page – please include all details.
4.   You will be contacted once stock arrives to arrange payment.

We currently have a number of kits in stock, but they tend to go quite quickly.  Get your order in now!

Note: As with all items in the shop, VAT is included, but P&P will be added during payment.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on October 15, 2010, 04:05:00 pm
Mine are being fitted a week today, fingers crossed the car will ride a bit nicer and will stop bouncing following fitment!!

bh
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Lisa1626 on October 15, 2010, 04:11:49 pm
Do they work best with esseesse springs or Standard Springs ?

Is the warranty affected ?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: DraigFlag on October 15, 2010, 07:02:33 pm
Sorry if i missed this bit, but they work with either SS springs or standard yes? And they don't lower the car do they?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: John501 on October 15, 2010, 07:05:56 pm
Do they work best with esseesse springs or Standard Springs ?

Is the warranty affected ?

The springs will be a personal matter depending on how firm you like the ride.
The warranty shouldn't be affected at all as its an Abarth approved part.

Sorry if i missed this bit, but they work with either SS springs or standard yes? And they don't lower the car do they?

They dont lower the car and they should work with either set of springs
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: DraigFlag on October 15, 2010, 07:12:50 pm
Do they work best with esseesse springs or Standard Springs ?

Is the warranty affected ?

The springs will be a personal matter depending on how firm you like the ride.
The warranty shouldn't be affected at all as its an Abarth approved part.

Sorry if i missed this bit, but they work with either SS springs or standard yes? And they don't lower the car do they?

They dont lower the car and they should work with either set of springs

Thanks John  :thumb:

One more question whilst we're on the topic, does the new SS kit with these shocks have the springs changed too like the old SS kit? Or are the standard springs used on the new SS kit?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: John501 on October 15, 2010, 07:15:16 pm
The new Esse esse kit will also have new springs
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Lisa1626 on October 15, 2010, 09:07:34 pm
Do they work best with esseesse springs or Standard Springs ?

Is the warranty affected ?

The springs will be a personal matter depending on how firm you like the ride.
The warranty shouldn't be affected at all as its an Abarth approved part.

Sorry if i missed this bit, but they work with either SS springs or standard yes? And they don't lower the car do they?

They dont lower the car and they should work with either set of springs

Thats great  ;D

One last question from me, for non SS'd cars can they be bought with SS Springs ?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Sawbomartin on October 15, 2010, 09:58:50 pm
Very important (to me)...

These are what I've been waiting for (IF):

Are these the official Abarth approved Koni FSD's, developed in conjunction with Abarth?

Are they tried and tested to give better / faster performance - don't need comfort!

I neeeeeed to lower the ride hight of my (standard - not esseesse) car. What are the OPTIMUM springs to fit - Eichbach or something????? would like as much height knocked off as possible!

Help - I can strip a printing press down and rebuild it - a car, I need help with!
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Trooper on October 15, 2010, 10:58:10 pm
This is what ive been waiting for  :thumb: ive even managed to get a brand new set of SS springs to complete the package  :thumb: now all i need to do is get the cash together :thumbd:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: AlexK on October 15, 2010, 11:34:25 pm
One last question from me, for non SS'd cars can they be bought with SS Springs ?

At the moment, you'd have to source the springs separately - try your dealer or eBay.  If everyone wants esseesse springs, I can see if we can put something together.

Are these the official Abarth approved Koni FSD's

These are the only FSD dampers Koni list for the Abarth 500, so yes.

They've been designed to work primarily with the OEM springs.

BH-Reading will be the first to have them fitted that I know of.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: needsmust on October 16, 2010, 01:15:46 am
<... frantic scrabbling around the back of the sofa for change ...>
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on October 16, 2010, 07:45:17 am
Very important (to me)...

I neeeeeed to lower the ride hight of my (standard - not esseesse) car. What are the OPTIMUM springs to fit - Eichbach or something????? would like as much height knocked off as possible!


FSD's are not intended for use with aftermarket lowering springs as they are calibrated to work with standard / SS springs and need travel to work. If you want to Lower then there is a set of Bilstein coilovers with springs and adjustable ride height available for £630.

Bh
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: john on October 16, 2010, 10:52:13 am
Very important (to me)...

I neeeeeed to lower the ride hight of my (standard - not esseesse) car. What are the OPTIMUM springs to fit - Eichbach or something????? would like as much height knocked off as possible!


FSD's are not intended for use with aftermarket lowering springs as they are calibrated to work with standard / SS springs and need travel to work. If you want to Lower then there is a set of Bilstein coilovers with springs and adjustable ride height available for £630.

Bh

Do you know who supplies the SS springs aftermarket, or would my local Abath dealer be able to supply the SS springs over the counter. Even though I have not purchased the SS kit from them in the first place, hope this makes sence.   :) 
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: AlexK on October 16, 2010, 11:42:54 am
As a few people have asked, the Abarth 500 esseesse springs are now available to buy from the Shop (http://www.abarthisti.co.uk/shop/) at the reduced price of £275 inc. VAT (normally £350).

These are supplied brand new from Turin, rather than nicked out of someone's kit, so there may be a short delay while they come in.

To add: the esseesse springs provide roughly a 10mm drop over the standard car.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: john on October 16, 2010, 11:59:20 am
As a few people have asked, the Abarth 500 esseesse springs are now available to buy from the Shop (http://www.abarthisti.co.uk/shop/)

Hi Alex good news thanks for sorting this out I will pick my new car up the first week in November so TMC tuning box and suspension getting sorted as soon as possible happy days  :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Lisa1626 on October 17, 2010, 08:32:50 am
Thats brilliant thanks for sorting out the springs as well Alex !  ;D

Is this a limited time only offer or will they always be available from the shop ?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: AlexK on October 17, 2010, 09:48:40 am
The Konis?  There was only a very limited number available in Europe, so we made arrangements to secure all of them.  Once they've gone, others will be available, but it might take a little while to get them in.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olig on October 17, 2010, 02:59:39 pm
any rough idea on a fitting cost if done by a dealer?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: John501 on October 17, 2010, 03:14:46 pm
Probably a couple of hours but labour costs vary across the country.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olig on October 17, 2010, 04:04:59 pm
okay so fitting shoud be under £100 then?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: TallPaul on October 17, 2010, 06:31:54 pm
I want to live where you live Olig if a couple of hours labour is £100!  :o
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: FWD_Boy on October 17, 2010, 06:34:23 pm
Awaits full road test from members, until I make up my mind
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on October 17, 2010, 07:05:12 pm
I found a specialist company who will fit the dampers and use a proper laser alignment system to check the chassis is set right following fitment and they have suggested its about 1-1.5 hours work for them to fit. Will provide full details after I have used them next week.

Bh
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GOLDIE on October 17, 2010, 07:12:21 pm
Waiting for your report BH, where abouts (roughly) is your fitting place?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: noddyrocket on October 17, 2010, 07:14:15 pm
Elite in Rainham ought to be good at this - i have used them for suspension fitting and alignment before :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on October 17, 2010, 10:14:45 pm
Waiting for your report BH, where abouts (roughly) is your fitting place?

In buckinghamshire, very well regarded company for suspension set up in mx5 circles. (wheels in motion)

Bh
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: alberto on October 18, 2010, 12:58:10 am
agree tony bones at wim best in the biz!
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olig on October 18, 2010, 10:18:41 pm
are these now fitted as part of the esseesse kin on the A500? or is it still the standard ones?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on October 18, 2010, 10:24:53 pm
are these now fitted as part of the esseesse kin on the A500? or is it still the standard ones?

yes
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on October 18, 2010, 10:29:14 pm
Sorry SJH can't quite tell which you are saying yes too, they are not currently in the SS kit for the hard top, they have only confirmed for the SS kit on the 500c and APE but there is every likely hood they will eventually make it to the hard top. Remember the final pricing etc still hasn't been released for the A500c & APE SS kits (or at least not to my knowledge at the second in time)

Although the A500A is becoming a reality  :whistle:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on October 18, 2010, 10:58:47 pm
Sorry SJH can't quite tell which you are saying yes too, they are not currently in the SS kit for the hard top, they have only confirmed for the SS kit on the 500c and APE but there is every likely hood they will eventually make it to the hard top. Remember the final pricing etc still hasn't been released for the A500c & APE SS kits (or at least not to my knowledge at the second in time)

Although the A500A is becoming a reality  :whistle:


Sorry, it's late and I misread this as A500c. You are quite right. I'll go to bed !
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GOLDIE on October 22, 2010, 06:35:44 pm
So,,,,, BH are they on?

What's the verdict?...
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on October 22, 2010, 07:41:38 pm
Were delayed from holland but being collected (and if possible) fitted Monday.

BH
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GOLDIE on October 25, 2010, 05:51:53 pm
Ok..... What I know about suspension could fit on a postage stamp,,, but from what I have gathered -

On each wheel is a shock absorber, and a damper / spring set up.

The Gaz / Pulse kits change the shocks

The Koni kit on sale here is a new set of dampers

Is it as simple as either changing one or the other (damper / shock) or do you need to do both?

Goldie
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: fraserwh on October 25, 2010, 07:16:28 pm
Hi...a damper and a shock absorber are the same thing....I think 'damper' is probably a bit of an old fashioned term...many people just refer to 'shocks' which is an americanism.
The GAZ and some other kits change the shock absorber and the spring in each corner. Further, the GAZ shock absorbers have a knob on the side which adjusts the stiffness of the bump and rebound and on the front there is a facility to adjust the ride height. Not all shock absorbers have these facilities.

The Koni kit doesnt include springs (so the ride height remains the same)and the adjustment is automatic...see the spec it explains how this works. Assuming it does, it will be like magic to have a shock with a soft response on the road and a firm response on the track....brilliant engineering....I look forward to hearing about it.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on October 25, 2010, 07:25:06 pm
FSD shocks collected today and being fitted tomorrow.....

Background info from Koni's uk agents is that they will suit either red (ss) or black springs (standard) but were calibrated primarily for the red ones. Same dampers as being factory fitted to 695.

bh
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GOLDIE on October 25, 2010, 08:13:25 pm
Ok, looking under the back of my car... I have something sitting under a wishbone type strutt running upwards at 90 degs with the red spring round it. I take this to be the damper.

I then have a black piston looking thing running up at about 45 degs... What's that then??

Goldie
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on October 25, 2010, 10:10:14 pm
Ok, looking under the back of my car... I have something sitting under a wishbone type strutt running upwards at 90 degs with the red spring round it. I take this to be the damper.

I then have a black piston looking thing running up at about 45 degs... What's that then??

Goldie

You dont have a wishbone on the rear its a torsion bar, the red spring is just that with a bump stop the black piston is your shock / damper.

bh
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: fraserwh on October 26, 2010, 09:14:42 am
Goldie,
you will probably see that the gap at the top of the bump stop (which sits inside the spring  and is fixed through the torsion bar at the bottom) is very small. This is because it was designed for the standard springs and not the shortened esseesse springs. The result is that the car bottoms out on quite small undulations in the road and this upsets the handling. Those esseesse owners in the know remove the bump stops entirely.
I guess that the Koni kit  has been developed with the bump stop in place..will be interesting to see how they deal with the bump stop problem.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: AlexK on October 26, 2010, 04:04:34 pm
For those following this thread, BH has posted a few initial thoughts now he's had his Konis fitted: Abarth 500 Esseesse fitted with Koni FSD Kit (https://www.abarthforum.co.uk/500-abarth-tuning/abarth-500-esseesse-fitted-with-koni-fsd-kit/).
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: chunkstar on October 26, 2010, 04:05:43 pm
have we any real reviews ???
or still too new?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on October 26, 2010, 04:06:13 pm
See above  ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: chunkstar on October 26, 2010, 04:39:20 pm
i know crossed over ;D ;D
telula will be getting new sus for xmas then
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: timb on October 28, 2010, 02:28:00 pm

Hi everyone, I have left my details in the abarthisti shop yesterday as I would like to buy a set of these dampers, how long does it take to be contacted?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on October 28, 2010, 02:36:47 pm
It could take a short while as your details have to be passed to the supplier who contact you directly, I placed my order last night and I haven't been contacted yet... maybe I should have said who I am  ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Pootle on October 28, 2010, 02:51:37 pm

Jus had a email stocks are not available at the moment.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GOLDIE on October 28, 2010, 02:56:48 pm
Well that sucks.......
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on October 28, 2010, 03:09:54 pm
I've got a bit of a clarification on this. We secured an initial batch which are incoming from Belgium as we type, hence why they are currently 'out of stock'. They won't take payment until they arrive.

The next batch is believed to be in approx 4 weeks. Before anyone goes mad please remember these kits are in huge demand on the continent and from a certain manufacturer and are in very limited supply, we lucked out just getting so many in the initial run.

Edited for better use of the English language
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: DraigFlag on October 29, 2010, 06:31:22 pm
Bit of a "dilemma" going on here. I want the new shocks, but if i were going to modify the suspension, i think it would be better to lower it too (as the A500 is a tad high at the back) Could get SS springs but then that's more doe....

Hmmm.....

What should i do?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on October 29, 2010, 06:57:50 pm
Bit of a "dilemma" going on here. I want the new shocks, but if i were going to modify the suspension, i think it would be better to lower it too (as the A500 is a tad high at the back) Could get SS springs but then that's more doe....

Hmmm.....

What should i do?

Buy the Bilstein set of coilovers which are a matched set of springs and ride height asjustable shocks for £530+vat. I found 2-3 users on the continent who had installed these and gave them a big thumbs up as they dropped the ride height but gave a good ride quality.

Think the FSD's will be slightly better in ride terms but as they are matched to the standard / SS spring rates and need travel to work then I wouldnt advise using them with lowering springs. Personally I am yet to drive a lowered car thats better on normal UK roads, be it in terms of grounding out, wheel rubbing, or being that stiff to compensate for the ride height drop that its not compliant enought for B roads - which in my view is the A500's forte.

bh
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: AlexK on November 04, 2010, 09:04:35 am
Just to bring everyone up to speed regarding the Konis, they are in the UK and we're just waiting for final customs clearance, but we fully expect to have them physically with us tomorrow.

They'll be carefully checked and, assuming there's enough hours left in the day, we will begin calling everyone who's placed an order so far to arrange payment - please make sure the phone number you gave will be available.  If, for any reason, we run out of time to process everyone, you will receive your call on Monday at the latest.

All orders will then be shipped that day, for next day delivery.

On a personal note, I'm snowed under with the day job at the mo, and can't check the forum as often as I'd like.  So, if there are any problems, please drop me an email or a PM, and I will take care of it.  Thank-you. :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: AlexK on November 05, 2010, 11:52:34 am
As expected, the Koni kits have arrived and everyone who has placed an order so far will shortly receive a phone call to confirm payment.

We anticipate being able to ship all orders today, for next working day delivery.  Should we run out of time, or be unable to get hold of anyone, they will be sent out on Monday.

Once these orders have been despatched, that will be our first batch of stock sold out.  We are confirming the arrangements for our next batch, but these will likely take four weeks to arrive.

If you'd like to be included in the second batch, please get your order in quickly.  Thank-you. :thumb:

http://www.abarthisti.co.uk/koni-fsd/
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on November 05, 2010, 11:59:20 am
Phone calls are definately happing, just had mine, and very good on the P&P price  :thumb:

Roll on next week
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Pootle on November 05, 2010, 02:54:06 pm
Yup same here. ;D

Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: AlexK on November 06, 2010, 12:02:09 am
Three people were uncontactable (it's a new word) today, so we'll try again on Monday.

Everyone else should have had a call, and your shiny new damper kits are now on their way.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on November 06, 2010, 07:18:01 pm
Wheels in Motion are specialists and fitted mine for £189 including checking the geo.

BH
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: alberto on November 06, 2010, 08:53:42 pm
Another vote for the legendary Tony bones from me too
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on November 08, 2010, 10:14:15 am
Shiny new kit has turned up, hopefully get them fitted up later this week and I can report back what they are like on the normal springs
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: chunkstar on November 08, 2010, 10:56:50 am
really interested to hear your thoughts chris :wave:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on November 08, 2010, 01:57:56 pm
Just sold my OE dampers and springs on ebay for £190 inc delivery to offset the price of my FSD shocks. Useful contribution towards the new set!!

I have the second bidder chasing me for a set for £160 and will collect, IM me if you want his contact details.

Regards

BH
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Doolahrock on November 09, 2010, 09:04:09 am
Be very interesting to hear all the thoughts on the ride quality with these fellows on board.  A week in France in the car really highlighted how shabby UK road surfaces are when we got back.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: shakman on November 09, 2010, 05:02:43 pm
Ditto. I'm just waiting to hear people's view and then ready to hit the buy button.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on November 09, 2010, 06:14:11 pm
My fitting has had to be put off until next week now so somebody may beat me to it, but I will post my opinions as I have lived with the pogo stick for long time now so feel I am a qualified to judge on the differences ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on November 09, 2010, 07:14:18 pm
 ;) methinks I beat you to it by 3 weeks.

You will be very impressed post fitment unless your hobbies include the pogo stick, skipping and / or trampolining.

Wife can go for a drive now without a sports bra.

BH
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on November 09, 2010, 10:41:36 pm
It was your report with the SS that prompted me to go for them, but I'll be reporting for all the NP owners out there  ;)
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Pootle on November 11, 2010, 01:57:56 pm
Mine should be going on saturday..
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on November 17, 2010, 11:06:33 am

Has anybody else fitted their FSD's yet?

BH
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on November 17, 2010, 11:12:18 am
I was going to wait a while before posting, only went on yesterday, but I didn't take it to the garage (the excellent Bill McGrath Ltd) the report from the driver was glowing though  :thumb:

Only had my short run to work that was very slow this morning but there was a marked improvement in the comfort (as in it has some now) but no degredation to the good handling characterisitics. I couldn't even duck and dive with her like I normally do the traffic was in dull mode so hard to tell any imporvemnet in that area.

I should have some better runs at lunch and I will take her for a blat along some more challenging roads tonight ;D Mine is still on NP springs just as a reminder.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: chunkstar on November 17, 2010, 11:49:21 am
chris looking forward to hearing from you and others :) :)

Hope its good news as ours will be ordered soon
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: needsmust on November 17, 2010, 07:58:49 pm
Got mine, on SS springs which I've had for the last 10k.

Fantastic.  It's how it always should have been.  A proper drive on warm dry roads will have to wait, but there's an immediately noticable improvement.  The neutral ride feels much the same and as hoped and expected, the bounciness has gone.  What is a treat is the loss of crashiness (sorry for all this technical jargon) and I can now drive over bumps/potholes without the anticipatory wince of mechanical sympathy.

I wasn't expecting:  Much better turn-in feel; a bit less roll; much less pitching - noticable even on gearchanges, not just braking.

Words like "transformed" and "refined" you've already read are appropriate.

I'm a sceptic by nature and was prepared to be a little underwhelmed.  I'm not about to become rabid in their praise, but I have to say again that these are how the car should have been out of the shop.  I'm not too bothered about lowering, athough the less arse-up stance of the SS springs looks better, and I'm not too bothered about jumping out every half-hour and adjusting (done enough of that with bikes).  They're great.

My only real criticism of the car has been sorted.  Happy days.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Blacken on November 17, 2010, 08:44:05 pm
The fitting of the Koni shocks sounds really encouraging. :thumb:

I live in London where some of the irresponsible Councils have installed some really high Pyramid traffic calmers (they don't calm me down :thumbd::crazy:) and I find that if I take them either square on or on a single wheel at anything above 2nd gear I am in danger of entering Mark Webber territory!
The problem is compounded if I have a bunch of irritable drivers of 4x4s or BMWs in my rear view mirror. :-[

Any feedback on this with the Konis would be greatly appreciated. :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on November 17, 2010, 09:59:50 pm
I'll start this with one question: Why is Abarth bothering to put these in the new SS kits?  They should be standard fit!

Given we are talking about a short wheel base, large wheeled, stiff springed car it is now almost comfortable. On my in town, slow to work journey I deliberately hit all the rough bits I would normally dive to avoid and it was absolutely brilliant, it transmitted to the cabin but not in that out of control way. Speed humps? Meh no slowing to a crawl to go over them finally, it deals with the impact from them very well and I have a lot on my journey and should save a few minutes.

Tonight I had an hour of chucking my car down the worst pot holed, broken tarmaced lanes, single track roads, dual carriage way, hump back bridges around my home town; you name it I tried to find it. Wow, I am genuinely speechless, had to have a beer just to get thoughts to line up in my head. Totally different car, on roads I used to have to do ~40 on just because you had no idea where the back end was or if the crashing noises from the front were your wheels falling off I was doing 60 and tending to be picking up more speed... naughty boy.

It does still buffet you around but see my previous comment about the physical realities of the car, its going to, however it is still totally planted on the road and I have never had so much confidence in the car when driving down the roads I did, possibly more than any of my cars. The cornering is really smooth and compliant, the bump stops actually helping, rather than hindering the ride, to control the body lean and again as the car is so much more planted with the TTC engaged I was able to pull much more controlled corners at higher speeds than without the Koni's

On the dual carriage way it becomes almost German-esque, firm but surprisingly compliant soaking up the lumps and bumps so well even at motorway cruising speeds, becomes a nice ride and I now look forward to my next long distance journey.

So if you aren't a track king and just want to sort the ride out these are worth every single penny! Want to go lower get the SS springs, job done. I strongly suspect the other two systems regularly discussed on here are technically better for track days etc. but I don't want to change the ride height or adjust my what evers I just wanted fit and play, and the Konis deliver fun time allowance in spades. The, what sound like crazy claims, of both comfort and handling in one easy package are spot on

Just my thoughts from a guy with an NP, a bloody fantastic, go round corners, non-pogo sticking comfy NP, as others have said this is what they should all be like :thumb:

Next stop Monza  ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: alberto on November 17, 2010, 10:06:14 pm
Great review 555
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Blacken on November 17, 2010, 10:07:40 pm
Thanks for the detailed info. :thumb:

I think they will be on the Xmas list. It will be nice to go over rough bits of road without my feet flying off the pedals! :hysteria: :oops: :pray:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: DraigFlag on November 17, 2010, 10:08:01 pm
Awesome review Chris  :thumb:

Sounds like you're roads are a nightmare! Maybe Welsh roads are better than i thought, par the odd cattle grid etc. I've got so used to the way the car rides i don't feel the need to change it. But after the trans-formic review from you, I'm sure even someone like myself would appreciate the difference.

Maybe i will order a set in the new year, not a chance before Christmas.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Joe on November 17, 2010, 10:09:41 pm
Nice read Chris - sound like a cracking solution - good to see they are as effective for the NP as they are for the SS. TBH I'd have gone for these but GAZ came along first - must say I do enjoy fiddling my settings every so often to dial in a bit of oversteer etc, but for the normal folk, the Koni's seem to be coming up trumps. Again - why aren't they fitted as standard?!
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on November 17, 2010, 10:14:12 pm
Cattle grid, knew I missed something, best pop via Woburn abbey tomorrow night  ;D DF I went and deliberatey found the worst of the worse in the little villages to give them it a proper trial. Honestly like needsmust I was a tad sceptical, even after my lunchtime runs but actually getting them out on the open road, wow just bloody wow  :o

Its falling in love with the scorpion all over again, and if you hadn't already already got the GAZ system, there would have been a much more sweary version of the write up in you PM box singing their praises Joe  ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Blacken on November 17, 2010, 10:14:35 pm
I go out of my way to drive Welsh roads - they seem to go out of their way to lay down decent tarmac.
My heart sinks progressively lower the closer I get to London and the Home Counties! :'(
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: DraigFlag on November 17, 2010, 10:19:51 pm
How long is the warranty on these by the way?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Joe on November 17, 2010, 10:26:46 pm
...if you hadn't already already got the GAZ system, there would have been a much more sweary version of the write up in you PM box singing their praises Joe  ;D

Shame. I enjoy your outbursts! Glad you like 'em Chris. Would be interesting to compare them back to back with the GAZ setup (excuse for a drive maybe?!)  :whistle:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on November 17, 2010, 10:32:52 pm
Don't need much of one now my back end doesn't behave like a mexican jumping bean  :thumb:


How long is the warranty on these by the way?
Looking through my old mail its a 12 month warranty from Koni and it looks like in the UK that is dealt with by our supplier, oh and they are gold, bling bling  ;D

Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on November 17, 2010, 10:34:32 pm
How long is the warranty on these by the way?

Koni have 3yr unlimited mileage warranty, but Fsd shocks have lifetime warranty.

Bh
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on November 17, 2010, 10:40:36 pm
I'll get the warranty double checked tomorrow, could be 12 month direct support in the UK and then 2 year return to manufacturer.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: DraigFlag on November 18, 2010, 07:52:51 am
How long is the warranty on these by the way?

Koni have 3yr unlimited mileage warranty, but Fsd shocks have lifetime warranty.

Bh

But these are Koni FSD  ???
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on November 18, 2010, 08:31:21 am
FSD stands for Frequency Selective Damping, Koni do different types of shocks these are their latest and most technologically advanced. As I said we'll clear this up today for everyone.

PS lovely run into work this morning  :whistle:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: treacle on November 18, 2010, 09:55:16 am
Does anyone know when the Koni shocks will become part of the esseesse upgrade kit for the tin top? My car is a year old next month, so I need to put my order in soon!!
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on November 18, 2010, 10:07:27 am
Does anyone know when the Koni shocks will become part of the esseesse upgrade kit for the tin top? My car is a year old next month, so I need to put my order in soon!!

In summary - don't hold your breath!  ;)
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on November 18, 2010, 10:13:02 am
As SJH said and I would be amazed if it all comes through in the next 4 weeks. Also the kit price will go up with the addition of the Konis so it may actually pay you to SS now and purchase the Koni's at the forum price, no-one yet knows how much the price change will be and there is the VAT hike to consider too.


Plug, plug, plug  ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: treacle on November 18, 2010, 10:17:17 am
Thanks guys... seems to be the way to go potentially. And what would be the forums best price for said kit?!?!?

Could you also recommend me a dealer / garage to fit the dampers? I live near Guildford, bought the car from Slough, with Lipscomb pretty close in Maidstone Kent.

Does fitting these '3rd party' shocks affect the cars warranty do we know?

Questions, questions!
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on November 18, 2010, 10:22:47 am
Re warranty then the shocks carry their own warranty and are a direct like for like replacement and i dont see how Abarth could legitimately void any other aspect of the vehicle warranty unless its related to the shock / shock fitment itself - eg damged caused during install, or failure of a top mount post fitment etc.

bh
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on November 18, 2010, 10:24:00 am
The best price is the one in the original post, £549 inc vat (not P&P), £120 off list is a pretty fine saving  :thumb:

I'm sure someone who lives in that area could reccomend somewhere, it is a 'simple' job and any good garage can do it for you, takes about 1 1/2 hours depending on the mechanics familiarity with the car. And as BH said about the warranty.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: treacle on November 18, 2010, 10:26:33 am
thanks guys

And what are stock / delivery times looking like at the moment....?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: AlexK on November 18, 2010, 10:33:34 am
The Koni FSDs are generally on a very long lead time, but we have ordered our second batch and these are being built by Koni as we speak.

We're hoping they'll arrive before the end of next month, but as soon as we have a more concrete ETA, I will update everyone.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on November 18, 2010, 10:35:41 am
The Koni FSDs are generally on a very long lead time, but we have ordered our second batch and these are being built by Koni as we speak.

We're hoping they'll arrive before the end of next month, but as soon as we have a more concrete ETA, I will update everyone.

Hope so, we are talking about Milo's Christmas present here after all...... ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on November 18, 2010, 10:39:29 am
They are a wonderful idea for a gift for both the car and you :)
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: treacle on November 18, 2010, 10:46:07 am
seems noddy is going to get a rather lot spent on him/her over the next month or so....
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on November 18, 2010, 11:50:56 am
Just to come back to the shocks warranty it has been confirmed from Koni that the FSD's have a 3 year warranty.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: DraigFlag on November 18, 2010, 07:56:55 pm
Just to come back to the shocks warranty it has been confirmed from Koni that the FSD's have a 3 year warranty.

Even better than i thought, thanks for finding that out  :thumb:

Quick question, as these don't adjust the height of the car, does camber/tracking etc not need to be adjusted during fitting?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on November 18, 2010, 09:13:41 pm
Just to come back to the shocks warranty it has been confirmed from Koni that the FSD's have a 3 year warranty.

Even better than i thought, thanks for finding that out  :thumb:

Quick question, as these don't adjust the height of the car, does camber/tracking etc not need to be adjusted during fitting?

My car was bang on after fitting, no adjustment to either needed.....

Bh
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: timb on November 21, 2010, 10:06:54 am

Thought I would post some thoughts on the FSD's, my car is a NP 500. The shocks have been on for a week now and I have driven on country roads and the motorway. Bottom line the car copes with rough roads much better, you still know its a rough road but the harsh edge is gone and its far less crashy. On sweeping bends on country roads the is also less boby roll which instills more confidence.

Regards.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Paula on November 21, 2010, 06:09:26 pm
I am considering these. Basically my problem is the harshness of the ride, particularly if I hit a pot hole, really unpleasant. I guess the only way to know is to fit them - but it's a hell of a lot of money to spend if it makes little difference.

Paula
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on November 21, 2010, 06:41:50 pm
I am considering these. Basically my problem is the harshness of the ride, particularly if I hit a pot hole, really unpleasant. I guess the only way to know is to fit them - but it's a hell of a lot of money to spend if it makes little difference.

Paula

a light, stiffly sprung car, with big alloys and skinny sidewall tyres means potholes best driven round...

On uk roads however the Koni FSD's dont make little difference, they make a lot of difference

BH
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Paula on November 21, 2010, 06:45:24 pm
I am considering these. Basically my problem is the harshness of the ride, particularly if I hit a pot hole, really unpleasant. I guess the only way to know is to fit them - but it's a hell of a lot of money to spend if it makes little difference.

Paula

a light, stiffly sprung car, with big alloys and skinny sidewall tyres means potholes best driven round...

On uk roads however the Koni FSD's dont make little difference, they make a lot of difference

BH



I do my best but as you say, uk roads and all that. Maybe Father Christmas will be nice this year :)

Paula
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on November 21, 2010, 09:27:21 pm
World of difference on a NP spring set up  :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GOLDIE on November 22, 2010, 12:26:26 am
Two words.... FIT EM

Mine went on to the car yesterday, and the difference is quite simply AMAZING...

Done about 200 miles since, and the difference is like chalk and cheese. We all know what the ride is like out of the factory, with the Koni dampers on it is still firm (rightly so) but it is a different kind of firm.

On A and B roads the car feels much happier over the lumps and bumps - certainly no need now to pick a route round every crack in the road like there was before. On the motorway not only is it more comfortable but the spacehopperness has gone. Previously I found 80mph to be a max for the car and I wasnt at all comfortable getting too close to it,,,,, with the Koni fitted its so much smoother that it is time to be careful and set the speedo warning up! (Found myself creeping over the 80 mark all the way back from Wheels in Motion - who were execellent by the way). The car feels glued to the road at speed like never before.

My wife (who is not a 'car' person) turned to me to today and said that the car actually feels like a 'real' car now... and less like a 'gokart'. As she put it, you arent going down the road bracing yourself for the next impact all the time and it doesnt make me feel sick on the motorway any more....

Goldie

Now just need to sort out the pathetic horn, and the car will be perfect

Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Blacken on November 22, 2010, 06:30:24 am
Damn, I've got no excuse now...except for the money! ::)
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: DraigFlag on November 22, 2010, 07:51:27 am
Some nice reviews here. I have another question, do you have to declare these on your Insurance? I appreciate they will be standard fit if you buy the SS kit soon, but they are "after market" at the moment. It's not like they lower the car either...
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Blacken on November 22, 2010, 08:08:00 am
I have another question.

I gather that the next shipment is hoped before the year end - if I go for a set in "the shop" - how does it work with payment?
Do I pay:
a)  upfront :o
b) a deposit with balance on delivery ::)
c) the lot in one go when the kits arrive at the supplier? :thumb:

This might expedite my decision!!

Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on November 22, 2010, 08:19:42 am
Some nice reviews here. I have another question, do you have to declare these on your Insurance? I appreciate they will be standard fit if you buy the SS kit soon, but they are "after market" at the moment. It's not like they lower the car either...

I declared mine but it utterly confused them, "What do you mean they don't lower the car? We don't have 'makes the car better and safer as an option" so they went for listing them as a generic modification and charged me a princely sum of £17.95 for a policy change (added the monza for an extra £6 while I was at it  ;D ). You may not actually need to declare them as they are just swapping one manufacturer recomended shock for another but better safe than sorry I thought.

I have another question.

Payment is taken in full by the supplier when they are in their warehouse and ready to despatch to you.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Blacken on November 22, 2010, 08:23:40 am
Damn, I've run out of excuses! :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Paula on November 22, 2010, 06:07:05 pm
Husband failed spectacularly to get a fitting quote from Research today said they wouldn't be bake to tell him until next month - I don't think they quite got the concept if us buying them from here. Might try myself tommorow, although I'm still torn about modding the car. 

Paula
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: scuderia sitar on November 22, 2010, 08:18:28 pm
Damn, I've run out of excuses! :thumb:

Have you got someone to fit them...that could be your final excuse.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GOLDIE on November 22, 2010, 08:26:10 pm
Wheels in Motion in Chesham did mine.... GB 190.00 including sorting the geometry

Big plus is the road in and out of the town is a real roller-coaster and offers the PERFECT before and after test

Goldie
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Paula on November 22, 2010, 08:42:59 pm
Did your abarth dealer say that this would not affect the warrantee?

Paula
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: DraigFlag on November 22, 2010, 08:44:19 pm
Did your abarth dealer say that this would not affect the warrantee?

Paula

It's part of the new SS kit so i doubt it!  ;)
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GOLDIE on November 22, 2010, 08:51:39 pm
Asked my dealer before I had them put on, and he confirmed only thing affected would be the shocks themselves..... and they come with 3 year cover from Koni themselves
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Blacken on November 23, 2010, 07:37:43 pm
Well I have filled in my details in the order box - just got to wait for the "powers that be" to get in touch. I will worry about the fitting after they arrive. :whistle:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: DraigFlag on January 05, 2011, 07:55:16 pm
When are the next batch of these due in? I'd like to buy a set and have them here and ready to fit in time for my 2nd service.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on January 05, 2011, 08:04:35 pm
OK, I am in too. Let me know when they are in.....
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on January 06, 2011, 12:44:43 am
We are hoping for confirmation very soon of the delivery date, we are aware how frustrating the wait has been and can only apologise and say again it is due to them not being available from the factory.

Over half the incoming batch have been allocated already so you may want to get your orders in  :whistle:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: greg allnutt on January 15, 2011, 06:03:25 pm
We are hoping for confirmation very soon of the delivery date, we are aware how frustrating the wait has been and can only apologise and say again it is due to them not being available from the factory.

Over half the incoming batch have been allocated already so you may want to get your orders in  :whistle:

Hi, Any updates on an ETA please?

Thanks. Greg
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: AlexK on January 26, 2011, 08:54:47 am
I'm delighted to say that a small number of Koni FSD damper kits arrived into stock yesterday.

All kits have been opened and each part has been carefully checked.

We will be allocating stock on a strictly first-come-first-served basis, and those at the head of the queue have been notified via email.  Those people will be contacted separately by our agent to arrangement delivery and payment.

Koni hope to have the remainder of our batch delivered to us by the second week in February.  If you'd like to be included, I would strongly recommend that you place your pre-order (http://www.abarthisti.co.uk/koni-fsd/) now.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on January 26, 2011, 11:01:24 am
 :'(.... I must e too far down the list this time as no email for me..... Mrs Hatster will give me some stick for that if she finds out.....
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: mightydquinn on January 26, 2011, 08:46:37 pm
best  check my emails.. 8)
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: nyssa7 on January 26, 2011, 10:02:12 pm
Got the call, shocks should be here tomorrow and all booked in for fitting with Wheels in Motion next Tuesday

 :D :D :D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: scuderia sitar on January 27, 2011, 08:22:04 am
I feel like I'm missing out, so I've joined the list.  Like many others, I'll worry about fitting when they arrive.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GTMartin on January 27, 2011, 09:33:48 am
I know a good guy, set up ours a treat, but you need to come to North Yorkshire
Martin
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Doolahrock on January 27, 2011, 01:22:12 pm
Mine just arrived ;D  Huge and gold.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Blacken on January 27, 2011, 07:15:47 pm
Mine are on their way. :thumb:

Can't afford to fit them yet though. :thumbd:

I just need to decide whether to find somewhere local or include it in my service with the mighty Vospers. :-\
Can anyone recommend somewhere in the W. London area should I decide to go local?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: nyssa7 on January 27, 2011, 08:40:06 pm
Wheels in Motion not THAT far from West London, you can even get the Tube back in if need be
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: scuderia sitar on January 28, 2011, 07:40:48 am
I know a good guy, set up ours a treat, but you need to come to North Yorkshire
Martin

Thanks Martin, I'll bear that in mind, but I think I'll be using Revolution in Gateshead.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on January 28, 2011, 07:49:38 am
Getting ahead of myself here as I wasn't high enough on this list for this batch but am interested in a suggested fitter between London and Guilford. Otherwise its Wilson Fiat, Epsom or back to Ajay's crew.
How long does it take BTW?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on January 28, 2011, 10:21:10 am
...trying to get quotes to fit them now I have a pair coming. Wilsons Fiat in Epsom claim they must be fitted by an Aarth dealer. Surely not?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on January 28, 2011, 10:22:55 am
Aarth dealers are terrible  :P, simple answer is no they don't, but I wouldn't go to a dealer as you will get a much better labour rate at a specialist
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on January 28, 2011, 01:16:00 pm
 :thumb: They have just been dispatched and I have found two local specialists who will fit them for me. Roll on next week!
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GTMartin on January 28, 2011, 01:22:55 pm
Aarth dealers are terrible  :P, simple answer is no they don't, but I wouldn't go to a dealer as you will get a much better labour rate at a specialist

Lloyd went to Petch. they did their best to fit.
Martin
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: lloyd on January 28, 2011, 01:28:54 pm
petches were very good, they were changing a top mount under warranty and agreed to fit them for the marginal cost as some parts were dismantled anyway.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Blacken on January 28, 2011, 07:23:33 pm
Konis arrived today  :lala: - they are beautiful things in gold...I half expected Auric Goldfinger to appear saying I expect you to drive Mr Bond! :hahaha:

What sort of fitting prices have you lot been quoted/charged?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: lloyd on January 28, 2011, 07:29:58 pm
AGP, £265 at SG Petch with no other related work :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: mightydquinn on January 28, 2011, 11:18:23 pm
any ideas when next lot is due ??
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: lloyd on January 28, 2011, 11:20:20 pm
manana, i think ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on January 28, 2011, 11:22:19 pm
~2 weeks, fingers crossed
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: mightydquinn on January 28, 2011, 11:26:48 pm
~2 weeks, fingers crossed
great.
but cant cross fingers while holding pizza. :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on February 01, 2011, 12:04:41 pm
Arrived today, looking as classy as a Uruguayan centre forward! Should be fitted by the weekend.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on February 01, 2011, 12:42:54 pm
Arrived today, looking as classy as a Uruguayan centre forward! Should be fitted by the weekend.

Mine are being fitted as we speak. Can't wait......very excited..... ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on February 01, 2011, 12:43:49 pm
So you should be  :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: nyssa7 on February 01, 2011, 01:10:44 pm
Arrived today, looking as classy as a Uruguayan centre forward! Should be fitted by the weekend.

Mine are being fitted as we speak. Can't wait......very excited..... ;D

So are mine!
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GTMartin on February 01, 2011, 01:50:24 pm
Are they on yet?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: 3k5k on February 01, 2011, 01:58:49 pm
Arrived today, looking as classy as a Uruguayan centre forward! Should be fitted by the weekend.

Mine are being fitted as we speak. Can't wait......very excited..... ;D
Come on SJ hurry up, what are you dong,, driving it. ::)


kEVO
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on February 01, 2011, 02:37:44 pm
Just waiting to pay......he's nearly done!
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: nyssa7 on February 01, 2011, 05:37:52 pm
O M G! My car is transformed - rodes better than the wife's F500 1.2 and steers so much better - probably because I'm sure something has been awry since day one though

Suspect fuel economy is going to suffer now  :whistle:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on February 01, 2011, 05:58:52 pm
Told you they helped  :whistle:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on February 01, 2011, 06:32:05 pm
There you go all - a review!

https://www.abarthforum.co.uk/members-cars/sjh-and-the-little-fella/msg116100/#new
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: mightydquinn on February 01, 2011, 10:13:36 pm
Told you they helped  :whistle:
better  have some please.
last week would be good.  :whistle:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GTMartin on February 01, 2011, 10:15:41 pm
Is that called retro fitting ;D
Martin
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Macfie on February 04, 2011, 02:20:41 pm
Koni FSDs fitted today;what a difference they make,no pitching,shaking etc.Feels like a larger car,yes you will feel potholes but a bit softer.Worth having done,£185 to fit.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: madvase on February 04, 2011, 02:26:08 pm
If you have these fitted does your insurance company need to be told?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on February 04, 2011, 02:30:45 pm
 :pray: :pray: :pray:...tuesday, mine go on next Tuesday......please let them be as good as these people keep telling me.......  :pray: :pray: :pray:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on February 04, 2011, 02:31:21 pm
I did, but as they didn't actually change anything they were totally bemused, swapping OEM shocks for other manufacturer recommended shocks.

:pray: :pray: :pray:...tuesday, mine go on next Tuesday......please let them be as good as these people keep telling me.......  :pray: :pray: :pray:
They are  :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: madvase on February 04, 2011, 03:26:26 pm
Is there any cult/group/religion I can join that has a celebration/festival soon that I can use as an excuse to purchase some for myself?  :whistle:

My wife will shortly need a new car and test drove an AGP earlier today so maybe I use Koni FSDs for the A500 as a bargaining tool  ;)
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: lloyd on February 04, 2011, 03:28:05 pm
you're already in it ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: fraserwh on February 04, 2011, 03:47:42 pm
has anyone used these at a track day yet...if so I would welcome hearing how they worked...did they remove/reduce the understeer...what happens on mid corner throttle lift etc etc
thanks
Fraser
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Trigzzzzzzzzzzz on February 04, 2011, 03:55:50 pm
what springs did you use with them???
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on February 04, 2011, 04:04:19 pm
has anyone used these at a track day yet...if so I would welcome hearing how they worked...did they remove/reduce the understeer...what happens on mid corner throttle lift etc etc
thanks
Fraser

I haven't and I actually am unlikely to use the A500 on a track again in the near future. I have used him on a track with the standard SS set up.

Overall, the SS set up is, I think, at its best on a track. I'm not saying you couldn't do better but for a little, top-heavy, front-wheel drive car, it's not bad if you ask me (although my comparison cars are limited). Will the Koni's improve it in that environment? Unsure. Having had them only for a few days and driving roads only (therefore at speeds less than on a track) my guess is understeer reduced if they are as good at self-variation as they are supposed to be. That is based on my experience of them on the roads anyhow.  My review did, however, instantly suggest to sawbo that, for track use, I thought he would do beter elsewhere.

Next time I am near a track, maybe I'll have a go. As time goes on anyhow, I'll post further thoughts in this thread (rather than the SJH thread as at present).
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: DraigFlag on February 04, 2011, 06:21:37 pm
If i start to like my car again, and feel like spending money on it other than fuel to the dealers/repairs, these might still be on the cards for me, especially if i get what I've been promised by a certain customer care company  :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on February 05, 2011, 07:04:16 pm
If you have these fitted does your insurance company need to be told?

My view was "yes" but good luck explaining what they are! My insurers had three categories in the end which they eventually told so I could choose given they had no idea -  (a) a manufacturer option? (b) has the car been lowered? (c) are they sports or variable suspension? We'll see what actually come through the post..... Cost £19.84.  ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Trigzzzzzzzzzzz on February 06, 2011, 10:30:08 am
has anyone used konis with sandard springs...? otherwise its quite costly for dampers and SS springs
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on February 06, 2011, 10:31:53 am
Me, love it  :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Macfie on February 06, 2011, 10:47:32 am
If you have these fitted does your insurance company need to be told?
Yes best to tell them.Cost me extra £10.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Trigzzzzzzzzzzz on February 06, 2011, 11:08:49 am
Me, love it  :thumb:

yeah they work well then, just shelling out for dampers and then SS spring is going to turn out expensive
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on February 06, 2011, 06:45:06 pm
I personally don't feel the car needs to be lower or stiffer, but that's my own driving style preferences
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: jonl on February 06, 2011, 07:07:20 pm

Entirely agree Chris.

Trigzzzzz - Get someone somehow to demo SS springs on a bumpy road(easy to find these days!)
then you will wonder why you had to make a decision.

SS springs are good on a racetrack though.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on February 06, 2011, 07:15:02 pm

Entirely agree Chris.

Trigzzzzz - Get someone somehow to demo SS springs on a bumpy road(easy to find these days!)
then you will wonder why you had to make a decision.

SS springs are good on a racetrack though.

It is a totally different car. Totally down to personal preference. Me, I wouldn't be without them!!
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Trigzzzzzzzzzzz on February 06, 2011, 07:27:56 pm
Good idea but its also down to the cost im pretty broke after weddng and moving before xmas buying dampers and springs with fitting will blow my budget only otheropetion is avo rear damperswith ss srings to keep costs down
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: needsmust on February 06, 2011, 10:49:19 pm
Shocks first.  Springs if you need them later.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: fraserwh on February 07, 2011, 08:41:25 am
sorry to disagree with Joni...no...esseesse springs are not good on a racetrack,certainly not without further mods..what makes a car good on a racetrack is springs and dampers which work together. The esseesse springs and standard dampers dont work very well on  track and as far as I know no one has posted how they work with the Konis on track. I have already asked for feedback from Koni owners, but none so far.
For further info on track springs and dampers see the back to back article about my A500 esseesse in Trackdriver issue 2
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on February 07, 2011, 08:55:58 am
Isn't this all relative? I can't begin to imagine the standard set up is any real use on a track; the esseesse is not bad for a road car and better on a track than the road; the Konis (as above) are likely to improve things but the reality is, some other solution which has been designed with the track in mind is likely to be better. Thus my view sawbo can do better than the Konis. Hence why this is all personal preference and driving style. I'm already finding the esseesse with Konis too soft on a motorway for my taste. Surely without esseesse springs this would be more acute but some will like it, others won't.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: greg allnutt on February 07, 2011, 03:44:20 pm
Does anyone know when the second batch will arrive please? Been waiting for an email but so far nothing...  :'(

Thanks.

Greg
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on February 07, 2011, 04:19:44 pm
sorry to disagree with Joni...no...esseesse springs are not good on a racetrack,certainly not without further mods..what makes a car good on a racetrack is springs and dampers which work together. The esseesse springs and standard dampers dont work very well on  track and as far as I know no one has posted how they work with the Konis on track. I have already asked for feedback from Koni owners, but none so far.
For further info on track springs and dampers see the back to back article about my A500 esseesse in **** issue 2

In terms of track capability lets be realistic, its a short wheelbase, but relatively tall car what 135-150bhp/ton. Its never going to be on a par with a cheap lotus elise, stripped out caged 205gti or any half decent rear drive car.

I agree that dampers and springs should be matched and in my experience that is the problem with the SS pack, in which the reduced height springs are neccessarily stiffer to compensate and the already overstretched standard dampers struggle. The FSD's have been calibrated together with the Ss springs so you end up with a car that now feels dynamically resolved, not bouncing or crashing and riding with a bit of fluidity which makes it more comfortable and quicker in standard road use.

If you want a track set up then you probably want a set of matched fully adjustables but the only company I have seen selling those are bilstein, the UK offerings arent built to the same quality and for me if you need to mess about with springs and change the damper rates on the car then that says they arent a properly resolved / matched set either.

bh
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: needsmust on February 07, 2011, 04:45:56 pm
Agree.  Konis for most situations are fit-and-forget, and hoorah for that.  I've spent many a happy hour twiddling with suspension on my motorbike and the simple answer is there's no one setting that will do it all.

If you want to bugger about and you have a handy track to do it on, get fully adjustables; otherwise the Konis are great.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on February 08, 2011, 04:10:13 pm
Picked up the car 30 mins ago and as far as I can tell in the short space of time I drove it home, the Konis make the car handling sharper while smoothing out the ride. The mechanic said the same and he only took it round the block. I didn't expect to get both and both be noticeable.

First impressions, money well spent. And if you are looking for a garage in Surrey/the South East to fit them, I can reccommend one. In summary, lose the teeth rattle and gain handling. What's stopping you, other than availability.....? :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: treacle on February 08, 2011, 09:53:21 pm
Recommend away Hatster, who did you use?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on February 08, 2011, 10:06:04 pm
SPM Motorworks, Byfleet: http://www.spmmotorworks.co.uk Cracking service and all done in three hours.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: treacle on February 09, 2011, 12:21:34 am
Sound perfect. Did they do it on an hourly rate? And did they check the camber/tracking/wheel balancing type stuff?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on February 09, 2011, 10:22:27 am
Hi, yes and I think so.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on February 09, 2011, 10:34:57 am
Actually its a yes and no. They didn't check the balancing etc because they didn't change the springs so there was no change in the ride height and felt it didn't need it. They would do it on request, tho.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: AlexK on February 11, 2011, 11:09:08 am
I'm delighted to say that the Koni FSD kits have arrived today.

They are being checked as we speak and once this is complete, we will begin contacting those who have placed orders so far.

If you've been holding off placing your order until stock arrived, now is the time.

» Abarthisti Shop (http://www.abarthisti.co.uk/koni-fsd/)
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: rare on February 11, 2011, 12:25:46 pm
Argh, I want them but once you factor in coil springs and fitting it's the best part of a grand:(
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: AlexK on February 11, 2011, 12:57:12 pm
Springs are entirely optional, plenty of people are sticking with the stock springs.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Trigzzzzzzzzzzz on February 11, 2011, 01:20:14 pm
how much is fitting rougly?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: bh-reading on February 11, 2011, 01:21:36 pm

£180 roughly
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: scuderia sitar on February 11, 2011, 03:06:53 pm
I've been quoted £108 incl. VAT at a non-dealer wheel specialist
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on February 11, 2011, 03:38:14 pm
Just back from my first longer drive with these fitted and realised what a terrible mistake I have made. How on earth will I prevent Mrs Hatster from taking the car out now the ride is so much improved? I am left with little options other than the respray and flame transfers down the side. She won't be seen dead in that. At least she might stop hankering after the new RS3.

Cost to fit for me was £168.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on February 11, 2011, 03:41:30 pm
I have noticed a decrease in weekend driving time as well  :( However the weekend  :beer: time has increased so 50:50 about the whole thing  ;)
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: John501 on February 11, 2011, 04:37:16 pm
Ah, so Chris is a fan, where did I leave his phone number
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: mightydquinn on February 11, 2011, 08:04:31 pm
Got my email
got my phone call
getting springs on monday
already got ss springs
we got some work to do now.
 ;D
Thanks ALEX
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: AlexK on February 11, 2011, 10:36:50 pm
Just as a quick update, in addition to being able to ship all pre-orders placed so far, we will also have a few kits in stock for immediate shipping.

However, once these have all gone, we can't be sure how long the wait for the next batch could be.  These things are somewhat like the proverbial rocking horse excrement at times.

So, first-come, first-served and all that...
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on February 12, 2011, 10:43:24 am
...just took my 5-y-o out for a run. She said that the car is smoother and faster. 'This car's a freak, daddy'! Could be straight from the pages of Evo, methinks.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: ctsui35 on February 13, 2011, 04:12:20 pm
...just took my 5-y-o out for a run. She said that the car is smoother and faster. 'This car's a freak, daddy'! Could be straight from the pages of Evo, methinks.

Hatster is there any chance of meeting up ,as I want to sit in a car with the FSDs before buying a set .

Your in the Surrey area too! :wave:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on February 13, 2011, 04:54:54 pm
...just took my 5-y-o out for a run. She said that the car is smoother and faster. 'This car's a freak, daddy'! Could be straight from the pages of Evo, methinks.

A future career mapped out!!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on February 13, 2011, 04:59:00 pm
...just took my 5-y-o out for a run. She said that the car is smoother and faster. 'This car's a freak, daddy'! Could be straight from the pages of Evo, methinks.


Hatster is there any chance of meeting up ,as I want to sit in a car with the FSDs before buying a set .

Your in the Surrey area too! :wave:

If you sit in one as a passenger, you will undoubtedly feel the benefit and rate them. As to driving, on just about every objective test, they improve the car because they are better, smoother and you have more control allowing you to go faster. However, there is a little part of me that misses the "excitement" of the old car. You know, that feeling that it might just bite you in the backside. May be it is just me and the cars I have driven/liked in the past. There is a clear pattern!!  ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on February 13, 2011, 06:00:58 pm
SJH, sounds like you are running the risk of a mmid-life crisis! :whistle:

Quote
Hatster is there any chance of meeting up ,as I want to sit in a car with the FSDs before buying a set .

Your in the Surrey area too! 

Sure, where are you?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: scuderia sitar on February 13, 2011, 06:26:24 pm
SJH, sounds like you need Koni to develop some 'kangaroo' dampers which will give random bounces and skips when you're least expecting it.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on February 13, 2011, 06:28:06 pm
SJH wants her car like her club this season, all over the place, the ride of your life with a cautious sense of optimism in the current climate......
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on February 13, 2011, 07:46:27 pm
SJH, sounds like you need Koni to develop some 'kangaroo' dampers which will give random bounces and skips when you're least expecting it.

It's the altitude.....like my skiing, I quite like my cars to be on the edge..... ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on February 13, 2011, 07:47:51 pm
SJH wants her car like her club this season, all over the place, the ride of your life with a cautious sense of optimism in the current climate......

 :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: scuderia sitar on February 14, 2011, 11:06:49 am
Just got the call   ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on February 14, 2011, 04:36:39 pm
SJH, sounds like you are running the risk of a mmid-life crisis! :whistle:


Ha ha! Just noticed this. There are many who would agree there and, if that is right, bring it on is all I say..... ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: ctsui35 on February 14, 2011, 09:42:56 pm
SJH, sounds like you are running the risk of a mmid-life crisis! :whistle:

Quote
Hatster is there any chance of meeting up ,as I want to sit in a car with the FSDs before buying a set .

Your in the Surrey area too! 

Sure, where are you?

By Esher!
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: mightydquinn on February 14, 2011, 11:28:45 pm
got mine. they look good
I will have to drive round puddles when there fitted..
gold with red springs.. 5BHP at least.. :thumb:
Thanks Abarthisty shop. :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: scuderia sitar on February 15, 2011, 04:36:44 pm
Arrived this morning on the overnight van.  Good service from the ALFASHOP people who only took my payment yesterday.
Thanks to the Abarthisti shoppies too :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GTMartin on February 15, 2011, 05:15:30 pm
You are such a poser, are you going to detail them before fitting?
Martin
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: DraigFlag on February 15, 2011, 05:45:40 pm
Wish i liked my car enough to spend money on it, they look very nice.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: scuderia sitar on February 15, 2011, 06:17:32 pm
Now where is that bucket of scorpion stickers....
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Joe on February 15, 2011, 06:31:18 pm
Hhhhm. Shiny.  ;D

Nice jumper  :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: scuderia sitar on February 15, 2011, 06:42:27 pm
Hhhhm. Shiny.  ;D

Nice jumper  :thumb:

Many Xmas's ago !! 
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: mightydquinn on February 15, 2011, 10:01:30 pm
well I have one exxactly the same...



Box not jumper.. :-*
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: lloyd on February 15, 2011, 10:03:14 pm
i threw my box away,

top tip.. don't throw your box away, you might need it :whistle:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: scuderia sitar on February 15, 2011, 10:32:34 pm
Mine's full of 'my son's' Scalextric  ;)
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: scuderia sitar on February 16, 2011, 07:37:15 am
Forgive me for being totally ignorant, but where do the springs go on the little dampers?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Joe on February 16, 2011, 07:56:10 am
They don't...  :o

Rear springs are separate on the rear and set in. Not enough room for coilovers...
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: AlexK on February 16, 2011, 08:21:21 am
Everyone who ordered Konis should by now have been contacted and had their orders shipped.

This leaves us in the lucky position of being able to say we still have Koni kits for the 500 in stock, and these are available for immediate delivery.  If you're interested, head on over to the Koni shop (http://www.abarthisti.co.uk/koni-fsd/).
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Doolahrock on February 17, 2011, 08:12:53 am
Wish i liked my car enough to spend money on it, they look very nice.

You having a bad time of things DF?

Admin: That's a discussion for another thread.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: possum on February 18, 2011, 06:59:13 pm
Hi Everyone

Just a quick word to say that finally fitted the Konis and SS springs and what a difference, I must admit I had been preparing myself to be underwhelmed. But having driven back from the workshop on country lanes and then into the hell hole that Bristol like to think is a road system I can honeslty say that they have transformed the car.

 Why don't they make them like this to start with?

Many thanks to Vospers, the Alfashop and in particular Alex for chasing my order.

Must start thinking about better brakes and more horses now  ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: 3k5k on February 18, 2011, 07:38:16 pm
Brakes first Possum,,,,,, Brakes first. :thumb:

kEVO
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: mightydquinn on February 18, 2011, 07:46:57 pm
 :P
why.
power first  :aurelius:
pulse brakes on mine. early march. 6 pots.
fsds  next weekend  :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Joe on February 18, 2011, 08:15:17 pm
6 pots? Sounds like overkill to me...

You'll be doing headstands Dave - not advisable wearing shorts like yours...
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: mightydquinn on February 18, 2011, 08:25:19 pm
10 pots available for 300 bhp cars... 8)
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: stevey293 on February 19, 2011, 01:02:30 am
Before you know it a caliper covering the entire disc tearing roads up as you stop.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GTMartin on February 19, 2011, 10:56:02 am
All that unsprung weight would not be very good for the handling :thumbd:
Martin
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: nyssa7 on February 19, 2011, 11:55:21 am
Get brakes with alloy bells and lightweight calipers and they wil weigh less than the stock ones

Had the FSDs fitted two or three weeks ago but yesterday was the first chance to drive "briskly" down the sort of road that would previously have bounced the a500 into a ditch. And it was worth every penny for the change, the sort of road where to exceed the 60mph limit would be a challenge so I could give it beans. Reached the other end with a big grin and the hazards having spent more time on than in previous 10k miles total  8)
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: greg allnutt on February 19, 2011, 04:52:58 pm
Get brakes with alloy bells and lightweight calipers and they wil weigh less than the stock ones

Had the FSDs fitted two or three weeks ago but yesterday was the first chance to drive "briskly" down the sort of road that would previously have bounced the a500 into a ditch. And it was worth every penny for the change, the sort of road where to exceed the 60mph limit would be a challenge so I could give it beans. Reached the other end with a big grin and the hazards having spent more time on than in previous 10k miles total  8)

I have to agree! I drove out to Wheels in Motion, Chesham to get mine fitted on Wednesday, the FSD's should be standard fit on the SS, no question. They also did the full alignment check which includes; camber, toe, caster, etc.

Much more control over bumps, you can actually feel the car being damped, turn in is sharper and generally results in a more comfortable driving experience which improves the car no end.  ;D

Anyone debating which way to go, you could do a lot worse than considering FSD'S.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Blacken on February 24, 2011, 08:57:22 pm
I followed Greg's advice and went to Wheels in Motion today. They were sorted in just over 1 hour 15 minutes. :thumb:

The ride is improved and it feels much better over bumps/potholes. But, bearing in mind that it is a relatively tall vehicle with a short wheel base and low profile tyres, it will never feel as cushioned as a lardy, family hatch back with regular tyres (this is not why we bought the Abarth). 
It will certainly do for me - I took it over to Guildford afterwards and then back to Ealing just for the hell of it. A nice drive in the sunshine. :thumb: ;D

Verdict: Smoother than Peter Bowles in an 80's sitcom!  :whistle:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Doolahrock on February 28, 2011, 06:01:37 am
Well, mine are going on today.  That's if the car doesn't fall into a pothole on the M9 en route.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Eddie Beefburger on March 02, 2011, 08:02:54 pm
I know a good guy, set up ours a treat, but you need to come to North Yorkshire
Martin
As a fellow Harrogatian, where did you go? ;D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: scuderia sitar on March 02, 2011, 08:27:27 pm
Well, mine are going on today.  That's if the car doesn't fall into a pothole on the M9 en route.

Well?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: chunkstar on March 02, 2011, 08:48:20 pm
Where in worcestersire/wawickshire to have fsd  fitted?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GTMartin on March 03, 2011, 09:10:56 am
I know a good guy, set up ours a treat, but you need to come to North Yorkshire
Martin
As a fellow Harrogatian, where did you go? ;D

RPM on the outskirts of Knaresborough. They have all the kit to do the alignment and really know what they are doing.

Martin
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Doolahrock on March 03, 2011, 10:17:22 am
Well, mine are going on today.  That's if the car doesn't fall into a pothole on the M9 en route.

Well?

I'll post up my thoughts after I've had the chance to test out various roads.  Was pretty much motorway all the way home but first impressions are good.  The worst of the bounce is gone and the car feels much more composed at speed.  As I say, I need to have a good drive around for final thoughts. 
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Doolahrock on March 03, 2011, 10:19:00 am
Is there any chance of being able to sell on the old shocks?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: scuderia sitar on March 03, 2011, 10:23:42 am
Is there any chance of being able to sell on the old shocks?

I would have thought so.  I'm certainly going to try and sell mine, with the original (non-SS) springs.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Doolahrock on March 03, 2011, 01:21:47 pm
Is there any chance of being able to sell on the old shocks?

I would have thought so.  I'm certainly going to try and sell mine, with the original (non-SS) springs.

I've kept the original springs on at the moment.  Will try and search around to see if there are any prices knocking about.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Eddie Beefburger on March 03, 2011, 05:16:10 pm
I know a good guy, set up ours a treat, but you need to come to North Yorkshire
Martin
As a fellow Harrogatian, where did you go? ;D

RPM on the outskirts of Knaresborough. They have all the kit to do the alignment and really know what they are doing.

Martin


Cheers

Much appreciated :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Doolahrock on March 04, 2011, 09:18:50 am
Gonna go for a bit of a test drive today but Should mention that I got the FSDs fitted and alignment done for £108 at Dreadnought in Callandar near Stirling.  Friendly service and a great price.  They had originally quoted £160 as well via e-mail.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: treacle on March 04, 2011, 09:57:06 pm
Finally had my FSD's fitted this week by AH Motorsport Hampshire (who I can highly recommend).

I must admit that due to reading so many positive reviews on here, I was expecting a complete change from the OEM setup - I am not sure what I was expecting - Rolls Royce levels of damping!??!

On first impressions, you do not get a 'complete change' as the car still rides firm and you still feel various imperfections in the road. It was only when driving the car (today) on my usual routes, that you can see the difference they make. The beauty (as pointed out already) is that the car still has a firm ride, but some how takes the edge off bumps that would have crashed through the cars structure before and left the car pogo'ing. The car feels lighter on its feet, with slightly lighter but more direct steering, itself with a tad more feel (one of the few other criticism of the standard car). Overall the FSD's keep the car more planted and give the car a more dynamic feel which makes for a better connection and flow with the road.

These should be standard fit, and I would be interested to see what the motoring press would make of the A500 with these fitted. Cannot recommend them enough, I did not think I could like my car anymore than I did pre FSD! - 10/10.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on March 05, 2011, 08:07:33 am
Has anyone had them fitted and not thought they were an improvement? They certainly do it for me....
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Eddie Beefburger on March 05, 2011, 10:46:34 pm
Martin

One last thing - if you don't mind - how much did they charge you?  :whistle:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GTMartin on March 05, 2011, 10:53:25 pm
It was £180 inc vat, but it was the first time they did it so spent hours to get it right. Full printouts were printed of before and after.
Martin
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Eddie Beefburger on March 05, 2011, 11:06:27 pm
It was £180 inc vat, but it was the first time they did it so spent hours to get it right. Full printouts were printed of before and after.
Martin

Cheers :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Krakn on March 07, 2011, 08:05:56 pm
I know a good guy, set up ours a treat, but you need to come to North Yorkshire
Martin
As a fellow Harrogatian, where did you go? ;D
Sat in Harrogate as we speak. Whereabouts is RPM in Knaresborough?? Might pay them a visit this week
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GTMartin on March 07, 2011, 08:17:35 pm
RPM Specialist Cars, 15 Nidd Valley Business Park, Market Flat Lane, Lingerfield, Knaresborough, North Yorkshire, HG5 9JA

Take the Minskip road out of Knaresborough, turn left just before the Alfa garage and follow the road for about a mile. RPM is on the left down the slope.
Martin
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Krakn on March 07, 2011, 11:15:13 pm
RPM Specialist Cars, 15 Nidd Valley Business Park, Market Flat Lane, Lingerfield, Knaresborough, North Yorkshire, HG5 9JA

Take the Minskip road out of Knaresborough, turn left just before the Alfa garage and follow the road for about a mile. RPM is on the left down the slope.
Martin
Cheers. Get my Alfa done at Piccadilly.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: scuderia sitar on March 08, 2011, 07:37:33 am
If anyone up North is looking for somewhere to fit Konis then I can recommend Revolution247 behind the MetroCentre.
I paid under £150 which included Hunter alignment after the fitting and minor toe adjustments.  They did a good job, and I got a free can of Coke!
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: nagle on March 10, 2011, 08:29:01 am
Hello all, seriously interested in purchasing the konis and springs now but just looking for a reputable company to fit them!

Anyone had them fitted around Romford or Thurrock area, was thinking about taking it to and Essex, buy would prefer to use a company that has fitted them before?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: scuderia sitar on March 10, 2011, 06:49:21 pm
They seemed pretty simple to fit.  Old ones out and new ones in. Especially the back ones !
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Abath on March 11, 2011, 05:53:23 pm
Now joining the KONI Club. Just got my Black Abarth KONI FSD Shocks and Red SS Springs. Now to book it in.

Can't wait to see if I will feel the difference.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Eddie Beefburger on March 18, 2011, 09:19:35 pm
 :o - Get these now!

An absolute world away from the original dampers - brilliant :D
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Macfie on March 19, 2011, 02:54:45 pm
They do work,car transformed. :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: mightydquinn on March 19, 2011, 05:10:44 pm
PULCE  racing are fitting mine  1st april
I cant wait.
well i supose i can really. :-X
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: trooperiziz on March 20, 2011, 07:21:16 am
Anybody tried fitting the shocks and replacement ss springs themselves? I have access to a car lift and know my way around cars a bit, tempted to give it a go...
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: GTMartin on March 20, 2011, 11:35:24 am
You would still have to get the tracking done etc
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: db188 on March 20, 2011, 02:30:21 pm
it's not to hard to swop shocks and springs just allow enough time for the front uprights the as GTMartin said have your tracking checked afterwards. Watch the youtube video of the std to ss conversion to see how easy it is.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: scuderia sitar on March 20, 2011, 07:25:22 pm
Don't you need a spring squasher (technical term) for the fronts?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: trooperiziz on March 21, 2011, 01:16:04 pm
I'm assuming you'll need spring compressors, but I have access to some :)
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Trooper on March 21, 2011, 05:53:58 pm
The rears take about 10 mins to change and dont require spring compressors  :thumb:

The fronts are a little more awkward as the lock nuts on the top struts are a little hard to get at with the bonnet hinges ect.. in the way  :( (dont let the nut spin off and get hidden in the depths of the fire wall  :whistle:)
and they do need spring compressors, but can still be done in about one and a half hours  :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: AlexK on April 27, 2011, 04:31:36 pm
We are now also offering the genuine Abarth Assetto Koni Kit for the Abarth 500.  The Assetto Koni kit includes four Koni FSD dampers in black with Abarth logos, plus four esseesse springs for a lower stance.  The kit is available for £820 inc. VAT, but excluding P&P.

The direct-from-Koni gold dampers are still available for those who already have esseesse springs fitted.

Both are available from:-

http://www.abarthisti.co.uk/koni-fsd/
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: rare on April 27, 2011, 11:02:15 pm
So much want so little funds.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: arbarthh on April 29, 2011, 05:13:43 pm
Is it worth just changing the dampers and not adding the SS springs?

Concerned the springs will make the ride too harsh.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on April 29, 2011, 05:45:10 pm
Its fine on normal springs but after 6 months or so I'm getting a set of SS springs, it really doesn't make the ride harsh.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: nyssa7 on April 29, 2011, 11:06:45 pm
Anyone with an SS and the FSDs done a track day somewhere bumpy like Goodwood or Castle Combe? How did it go? I got the FSDs because the ride was beyind rubbish - but found a bumpy lane near Swindon the other day that was too bumpy for the suspension to cope

Got a track day booked at Goodwood with the Lancia Motor Club in 3 weeks, undecided whether to take the Abarth or the Fiat Tipo race car I'm currently "looking after"
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: FWD_Boy on May 03, 2011, 08:02:43 am
So I was pretty set on FSD's and SS springs, fitted through dealer to keep warrenty nice and strong and also a nice reciept for the slowly growing collection...

So I emailed Phil at Lipscomb told him what I was after along with my first service details, he passed me onto a service lady who tried to contact me Thursday when I was out and the missis took the call...

1st service £180 or there's about (can live with that, I guess), what I cant live with is £1400+ for 'Handling pack' FSD's and SS springs fitted! When we popped into Lipscomb Sat morning to book the service itself I asked at the parts counter if that price was correct, the lady (who stated Im not sure Im normally Lotus and Volvo) went off and checked only to come back and inform me the price was correct, when I asked even if the parts come to £800 would it really take 5hrs to fit even at £100 per hr labour, I was informed hourly rated where £106 an hr or there abouts and yes it would take quite a while as it was a big job and the wheels would have to come off!

Yes thats right boys and girls... THE WHEELS WILL HAVE TO COME OFF TO FIT NEW SUSPENSION

Thats a new one on me lol
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: AlexK on May 03, 2011, 08:14:49 am
Simple answer: buy the Assetto Koni kit from us, have it fitted by a competent garage of your choice, and save yourself a bundle.  Warranty remains intact.

Fitting the kit isn't rocket science, but it is worth having it properly aligned afterwards.  Personally I've yet to find a main dealer that can do that properly.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: nagle on May 03, 2011, 04:38:00 pm
Well if you buy the kit off the forum, and want to travel to romford i can put you in touch with a bloke who will do it for approximately £120.

He did mine and done a good job  :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Trooper on May 03, 2011, 05:22:45 pm
Myself and my m8 fitted my SS springs rears took about ten mins and the front about an hour and a half ,because we lost a nut in the fire wall  :banghead:

If i did it again it would be even quicker so im guessing a decent Abarth mechanic could do it in around an hour so thats damn expensive  :o
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: mightydquinn on May 03, 2011, 07:45:09 pm
pulce did mine.
its not 4 hours. ::)
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: FWD_Boy on May 03, 2011, 10:35:42 pm
Oh and know a good bloke in Billericay who does all my exhaust work and lowered my Cougar and Saxo too, and Id def get the car setup for fast road once dropped, there is a place just outside Dartford, do loads of JDM stuff, but are meant to be very good at suspension setup.

It was just the price that put me off as Im still considering the Bilstein coilovers against the FSD and SS spring setup, getting my exhaust sorted first then first service, breath, save money then look at suspension next lol
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hippo on May 04, 2011, 09:19:38 am
Has anyone (who knows about suspension) had the Assetto Koni system fitted. Is it good compared to other brands or just overpriced because it's OEM. Would coilovers be better?
Does it make the car sit level or is the back still jacked up a bit more than the front?
I have no idea about suspension and would like to change my standard setup.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Redmirror on July 26, 2011, 06:36:57 am
Had the Konis fitted to my esseesse. Car is indeed transformed; much more comfortable and attached to the road. In 3 days I did 1500 km on country side roads that previously would have given me unbearable hits and many stressful moments, watching out for put holes all the time. Now I could drive with higher speed (+25 kmph) and more safely and relaxed.

Only downside is that the responsiveness of the car seems a bit less, well noticable when you swiftly chance lanes on the motor way. Steering response feels less direct, and there seems to be more body roll. Maybe it is perception, but the car feels a bit more "soft".

All in all less exited than before, but much quicker, safer and comfortable. So highly recommendable!

Redmirror

Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on July 26, 2011, 06:54:06 am
^^ my first reaction was there was a slight softness. That reaction goes when you realise they are actually very very good and hugely confidence inspiring. Enjoy.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hatster on September 07, 2011, 09:16:58 am
Has anyone sold the bits after having the Konis fitted? If so, where and what did you get for them, pls? We are moving and Mrs H wants me to get rif of the nice box with the gold lady....
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: nyssa7 on September 07, 2011, 11:41:10 am
Doesn't seem to be much of a market. Must have put mine up on eBay 10 times by now, just relist it every time they have a free listing promotion. Quite a few watchers but no-one ever bids. Suspect all my watchers are people on here who have fitted the FSDs and wondering how my sale goes  ::)

The wife has an F500 but she doesn't want them on her car or that would have been problem solved!
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on September 07, 2011, 11:59:57 am
Scrap man had mine... good riddence
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Sawbomartin on September 07, 2011, 01:24:06 pm
I put Mine on for £125 - 5 watchers.
dropped it to £100 and they sold. Better than nothing!
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hippo on September 07, 2011, 01:43:43 pm
£50 mine. I was grateful. Think they came of the scrap heap to begin with.
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: andy007 on October 17, 2011, 07:55:42 am
Did any one adjust the lights up a bit, as the car is lowered, I'm sure the light beam is to low, I couldn't see much on the roads last night!!
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on October 17, 2011, 08:22:42 am
Can't say I've noticed any difference since the SS springs went on
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Wheels72 on October 25, 2011, 09:15:54 am
Hello Chris555. I see that you've gone from FSD's (which I know you find impressive) to FSD's plus SS springs. Forgive me if I've missed another thread on the subject, but do you have any comments re. the improvement/possible disadvantages of adding the springs? Thank you.  :)
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: Hozepipe on October 25, 2011, 10:20:04 am
Hello Chris555. I see that you've gone from FSD's (which I know you find impressive) to FSD's plus SS springs. Forgive me if I've missed another thread on the subject, but do you have any comments re. the improvement/possible disadvantages of adding the springs? Thank you.  :)

Dave Quinn also has this setup on his monster, as I believe does my 695. It works well and looks good. I must admit that I was very impressed with Joe's setup as it remained rock steady, low and level, even when being ragged across the evo triangle :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: SJH on October 25, 2011, 10:36:11 am
Hello Chris555. I see that you've gone from FSD's (which I know you find impressive) to FSD's plus SS springs. Forgive me if I've missed another thread on the subject, but do you have any comments re. the improvement/possible disadvantages of adding the springs? Thank you.  :)

Dave Quinn also has this setup on his monster, as I believe does my 695. It works well and looks good. I must admit that I was very impressed with Joe's setup as it remained rock steady, low and level, even when being ragged across the evo triangle :thumb:

I agree. Mine - SS/FSD's = great. Joe's is a brilliant alternative.  :thumb:
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on October 25, 2011, 10:42:41 am
Dave Quinn also has this setup on his monster, as I believe does my 695.

It was indeed a drive in a 695 that prompted the extra suspension work on my car

After I had them fitted I took the car on a drive I knew would give a proper handling test, really rough roads with lots of very tight bends. I would say due to the improvement in the ride and handling, point to point its now probably faster than a non-koni'd SS. Simply because with the full set up it it can carry a much higher average speed when it gets bumpy. It still bounces and rattles like a mad un but the SS springs are much better for controlling body roll than the NP and 'on rails' doesn't quite do it justice. It was interesting to see any cars I followed how much wider they had to take bends compared to my car, that felt much safer on the narrow lanes as you don't have to present yourself as a target. The only thing I would say, the NP springs actually make for a slightly better motorway cruiser because of the additional give but its a small price to pay.

The replaced bumpstops now mean if you hit something nasty mid bend your rear end doesn't just freeze up and try and place itself elsewhere on the road with a hop which gives so much more confidence and control. Joe did play a blinder finding those as with some of the roads I was on it still felt like they were meeting the plate not sure I would have been happy without them.

So NP + Koni Handling kit + Coupe bumpstops = one awesome little car
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: cab on October 29, 2011, 08:02:05 pm
Are these still available and if so are they from stock?
Title: Re: Koni FSD dampers for Abarth 500 available from Abarthisti
Post by: olopboy on October 29, 2011, 10:52:21 pm
Both the full Abarth FSD kit with springs and just the FSDs on their own are available from the shop (http://www.abarthisti.co.uk/koni-fsd/) not sure if they are actually in stock but the lead times are pretty short now.