Abarthisti

Garage => The Abarthisti Garage => Topic started by: mj2k on October 26, 2021, 02:49:16 am

Title: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on October 26, 2021, 02:49:16 am
My 'new' Abarth arrived today, bought as a Cat N from Copart:

Not a bad looking car from one side:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/e8bTqH.jpg)

But not quite so good from the other:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/uqyocj.jpg)

Drove off the lorry and into the garage under it's own steam, but noticed it was getting a quite hot considering it had moved so little. Checked the expansion tank - empty. So looks like I'll be needing a new radiator. And then did a quick measure of the distance between a headlight mount and the bulkhead - 2 cm different which was a bit worrying...

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/BkUss5.jpg)

And then noticed the camber was a bit off:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/pVIwXd.jpg)

Jacked it up and removed the o/s/f wheel - oh dear:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/2cMG4Y.jpg)

Still need to investigate why the wheel was grinding against the shock, but guess I'll be needing a new wheel (or set of wheels) and will definitely be needing the nice new Konis I bought

Then had a look at the bumper - it's worse than it appeared in the pics - the lower grille is damaged and there's a weirdly shaped hole in the middle. I'll get to that later...

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/m6pKKI.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/8sxX71.jpg)

So set about removing the damaged front wing, needed to be done ASAP since it was damaging the driver's door. Bit of a faff because of the sealant and I ended up having to bend the door a little more to reach the top wing bolt:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/e70q0d.jpg)

Once the wing was off a bit of a 'tweak' with an edge setting tool sorted the door ok:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/WuHts7.jpg)

But I go a nasty surprise when I took the bumper off  :o

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/BG2XMf.jpg)

Looks like that hole in the bumper (and 2cm difference between headlight mounts) was caused by hitting a tow hook. Just goes to show how much damage that can cause...

Kept on stripping down until I finally came to good components (so I'll need offside headlights / indicator, rad, aircon condenser,  front panel and crash bar), and finally got to the turbo. Looks like the cat took a hit so I hope it isn't crumbling inside now.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/k3zJbz.jpg)

So, a bit more of a project than I hoped. Still, it'll be interesting...
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 26, 2021, 12:49:38 pm
Can I suggest you start a new post in your very own garage? :thumb:

https://www.abarthforum.co.uk/the-abarthisti-garage/
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on October 26, 2021, 12:53:42 pm
Sounds sensible, is there any way to move this post to there, or should I just copy / paste the text?
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 26, 2021, 01:06:42 pm
I'll move it across when you open you new Abarth garage :thumb:
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: David_S_Walker on October 26, 2021, 01:52:32 pm
 Hello,

I shall follow this with interest not because I need to do similar but because I watch your projects over on UKLegacy.com with more than the usual interest.

Good luck!

Best regards,

David :thumb:
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on October 27, 2021, 12:30:29 am
Hello,

I shall follow this with interest not because I need to do similar but because I watch your projects over on UKLegacy.com with more than the usual interest.

Good luck!

Best regards,

David :thumb:

Thanks :)

Hopefully this won't turn into quite such a mad project as my last Legacy (350 bhp and the potential for 500 when I only wanted 200 was a bit daft), but assuming I can make it roadworthy again it'll be getting Brembos, Konis and lowering springs all round, etc. And if I can't, I guess my original idea of crossbreeding a breaker (albeit quite an expensive one!) with a normal 500c might well be back on the cards again...
Title: mj2k - very poorly 2015 Abarth 595 Turismo
Post by: mj2k on October 27, 2021, 12:49:04 am
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/i3MKKK.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/e8bTqH.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/RqaizC.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/tFcraN.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/xWq7X8.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/E4kLX9.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/uqyocj.jpg)

Spec: TBC once I know if I can bring it back to life!

More images to follow, along with hopefully the project thread
Title: Re: mj2k - very poorly 2015 Abarth 595 Turismo
Post by: mj2k on October 27, 2021, 12:57:21 am
My original plan was to buy a scrap Abarth 500 from Copart and transfer the engine, loom, interior, etc across to a plain old 500c.

I'd spotted the above rather gorgeous looking beast on Copart and put in a speculative offer which didn't reach reserve, and since the seller didn't respond in the allocated window, thought no more about it.

I then found cheap yellow 2010 500c with a black stripe (which I christened the bumblebee) which looked like the perfect candidate for my engine swap plans, since it had no crash damage recorded, and appeared to be in quite good condition except for ripped seats and 140k on the clock. I'd put down a deposit on it and was planning my journey to collect it when everything went a bit weird...

Somehow my bid on the 'proper' Abarth got accepted even though it was outside the window, and I was then obliged to buy it. Which meant goodbye to the bumble bee (and my deposit and train tickets, which I'd bought to collect it), and hello to a pretty but somewhat more expensive than I intended Copart rescue.

Still, it looked in fine condition except for the damaged o/s/f wing / lights and bumper, and seemed like an easy repair for a Cat N, so eagerly awaited it's arrival.

Rest of the project thread to be transferred over hopefully :)

Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on October 27, 2021, 01:02:06 am
I'll move it across when you open you new Abarth garage :thumb:

Hope I've done it right...

https://www.abarthforum.co.uk/the-abarthisti-garage/mj2k-very-poorly-2015-abarth-595-turismo/ (https://www.abarthforum.co.uk/the-abarthisti-garage/mj2k-very-poorly-2015-abarth-595-turismo/)
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on October 28, 2021, 12:10:24 am
Might as well carry on in here pending the move of the thread to the 'garage' forum since otherwise it'll be out of order...

Some of the cosmetic parts I'd ordered to do the cosmetic job' I was expecting arrived today, so got busy with sorting the cosmetics.

Firstly got busy fitting the replacement side indicator lens, and transferring across the bumper mount from the damaged wing:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/dlSBb7.jpg)

Then fitted the replacement lower light, and with a bit of gentle persuasion from a heat gun managed to reshape the bumper into something close to it's original form:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/sIGkgO.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/aLuBKf.jpg)

Bottom part where the spotlight was mounted is still damaged and will need to sort that once the replacement spot arrives, but the replacement intercoolers all fit nicely now:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/gSwU9K.jpg)

Not perfect but it'll do 'til I have the cash and manage to find a better one in black.

And finally, with a bit of help from my trusty edge setting tool, a block of wood and a g clamp, I reshaped the bottom bumper bar:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/U4r5CO.jpg)

I could most likely reshape the front panel to make it fit again too, but I need a proper straight panel as a template to check if anything else is damaged, so will leave that since I have a replacement coming. Upper crash bar is totally cream crackered of course.

Next job is to remove the damaged strut so I can work out what's going on with the o/s/f wheel, but got caught out by the familiar bugbear of the strut top bolts being rusted into place, so still doing that one at the mo...
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on October 28, 2021, 10:10:57 am
I know why the wheel was so badly canted over now :D

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/kcQkKA.jpg)

Never seen a banana-shaped strut before

Once it was replaced the wheel angle looked much better:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/KHtVZg.jpg)

Replaced the spring of course at the same time, old springs were Eibach too but nowhere near as cut down:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/h9ja7Y.jpg)
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on October 29, 2021, 12:09:11 pm
Replaced the n/s/f wing (will need to get it sprayed later since it's still in primer) and fitted the other new Koni / Eibach spring to the n/s/f.

Looking good, but the gap between the wheel and spring is still too small on the o/s/f so I need to figure out what else could be bent. The lower arm and mounts look fine so I suspect it's the hub carrier, but that seems unlikely since it's cast. Does anyone else have any ideas what may be causing the excessive negative camber?
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 29, 2021, 03:42:31 pm
I would suggest taking a few measurements between easy to find points on the body/chassis and post them here.

I'll compare with mine and perhaps other 500 owners will join in. :thumb:
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on October 29, 2021, 06:37:47 pm
I would suggest taking a few measurements between easy to find points on the body/chassis and post them here.

I'll compare with mine and perhaps other 500 owners will join in. :thumb:

Thanks, sounds like a plan  :thumb:

I've got my replacement front panel / crash bar so I can finally pull it into some sort of shape, check panel gaps, etc and take some decent measurements. Even initial results look good before I've tightened it down properly - the gap between the front panel and bulkhead match on either side, though I do need to cut out and replace a damaged piece of crumple zone just behind the bumper bar (pics to follow).

I've also ordered a new wishbone (it's bound to need replacing eventually) and a 2nd hand hub carrier to be on the safe side.
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on October 30, 2021, 12:16:52 pm
...And yesterday my replacement front panel arrived. It's come from a much older car which presumably died of rust / neglect rather than crash damage, so though I'll need to do a bit of respraying and rust prevention I know it's not bent. If I'd bought one from a newer car I could almost guarantee it had come from another Copart victim so I might have been trying to align a bent panel with another bent panel, which would not be good.

Fitted - it doesn't look bad at all. You may notice I've left the rad and aircon condenser off, the reasons for that will become clear...

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/m8dmIK.jpg)

So refitted the intercoolers and headlights, along with the wing.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/ZhDxQ5.jpg)

Still looking good, and the distance between the front crossmember and the bulkhead has been returned to normal :slayer:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/I0DkqI.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/ABHt4r.jpg)

Since all was looking good I fitted the reshaped front bumper, not looking bad at all, the lights all work and the 'check DRL' light has gone out

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/Tv7N1W.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/Rmjm7m.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/5jWgzj.jpg)

Looks like it's almost ready for the road :)

However, there is still one issue to sort (hence why I didn't fit the radiators) - the crumple zone on the bumper mount is bent.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/aODbEB.jpg)

If I was really iffy and was just turning the car round for a quick buck I'd just stick a couple of washers in there and have done with it (a good reason to beware of Cat N / S cars if they've been repaired and are being sold on quick by a trader). But my plan is to make this car a 'keeper' if I enjoy driving it, so cut out the damaged section:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/yl8X9q.jpg)

I've got a new crumple zone panel on order via Ebay (a v lucky find) so it'll all have to come apart again once that panel arrives so I can weld it in. Been a while since I've done any welding, so I hope my skills aren't as rusty as some of the classics I used to patch together :D
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 01, 2021, 03:31:40 am
Ok, got some measurements (all done from centre of bolt):

First of all, the front panel. The bit which was obviously bent:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/923/1OWLHW.jpg)
Scuttle mount peg to headlight bolt (orange) - 33.5cm
Scuttle mount peg to rear front panel bolt (red) - 26.5cm
Rear front panel bolt to rear front panel bolt (green) - 120.5cm
Bonnet lock sticky up bit to scuttle panel rubber rear edge (blue) - 45cm

And the probably bent lower arm. Distance in parenthesis is the likely bent offside if different:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/1024x768q90/922/UHVf8A.jpg)
Rear wishbone mount (plate with 3 big bolts):
Inner bolt to outer bolt (blue), either one - 23.5cm
Outer bolt to outer bolt (not coloured) - 13cm
Front of rear mount to front of front mount (green) - 34cm
Front front mount to wishbone's balljoint centre (orange) - 34 (32) cm
Front rear mount to balljoint centre (red) - 44 (45) cm
Balljoint centre to front edge of hole in jacking point (unmarked) - 46.5 (49) cm!

It looks like the n/s/f wishbone (which is much newer than the other side) appears to actually be stretched by 1-2cm, which is weird, it should be shorter. No signs of any damage to the lower wishbone mounts or subframe either to explain it.

Not quite sure how a cast wishbone can get stretched, seems extremely unlikely. Only things I can think of are that the wishbone bushes became ovalled in the crash (won't know for sure 'til the wishbone's out) or that the wishbone, which appears to be a recently fitted pattern part, is actually the wrong wishbone for the car, and thus the camber difference is unrelated to the crash  ???
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 01, 2021, 04:04:10 am
Actually, thinking about it, the shortened orange distance but longer red distance suggests the front wishbone bush (or it's mount) has been damaged. If the former, that's a nice, easy fix. If the latter that'll be a replacement subframe, which will be a pain but not the end of the world.
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 04, 2021, 12:55:10 pm
Got the Konis and Eibachs on all round:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/923/4iQtVo.jpg)

So started dismantling the front end ready for examining the chassis leg to make sure there's no hidden damage, before welding in the new section. And then found this with the hub carrier:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/kCgBCa.jpg)

Aside from looking different the Abarth carrier (on the right) has 3 degrees less 'incline' than the 1.2 Pop one on the left, which would certainly explain the odd camber - without a little bit of a bend where it's bolted onto the strut the wheel will be facing straight in towards it!

Admittedly this isn't a 'final answer' since the 1.2 hatch hub carrier (which I bought cheap for reference) has a different wheel camber to the Abarth / 500c / diesel (which all have the same) so I'll need to wait for a replacement Abarth one to come in via Ebay, but it certainly looks like the cast hub carrier is indeed bent. If my findings are right and the camber is exactly right with a new hub carrier, that's confirmation there's no lower chassis damage so I can get on with a road test once the lower arm's replaced (still waiting for that to be delivered) and the bumper mount's been repaired (still waiting for that too)
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 13, 2021, 12:13:33 pm
That's it, new section welded in and smothered in paint / rustproofing to prevent any future corrosion issues:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/bv016j.jpg)

Also cleaned out this little odd area just behind the brake pipe mount and applied rustproofing, aside from potentially helping the car on the way to the scrapyard after it's 10th birthday, what on earth is it for?

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/4LPREB.jpg)

And finally, though it's difficult to tell from my pics, the gap between the shock and road wheel has been restored to what it should be:

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/XoIJ0d.jpg)

Today will be spent (once I've done the chores) rustproofing the other side too, refitting the wings and replacing a bent water pipe. Still won't be able to refit the front panel though - I'm waiting for a couple of turbo pipes to arrive, yet another bit of knock-on damage  ::)
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on November 13, 2021, 03:50:46 pm
Good work. :thumb:

I take it that may sort the alignment issue?
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 13, 2021, 04:30:21 pm
Good work. :thumb:

I take it that may sort the alignment issue?

Thanks :)

Yes, it looks like it has, at least as far as my phone's spirit level app says. Only way to know 100% for sure is to take it in for tracking, but need to get it roadworthy first.
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 15, 2021, 01:43:17 am
Alignment looked fine once I'd got the wings on - both sides looked identical, so unless everything goes wobbly and wonky when I drive it, I think that's all the crash damage sorted. And then I moved onto a job I'd been dreading - replacing the bent water and turbo pipes.

It was an entire day's job and involved removing all the turbo heat shielding, the cat + mounts, the battery tray and ecu, unclipping a lot of cables, undoing both the hvac pipes, removing the air filter assembly and all intercooler pipes and removing every pipe to the turbo bar one.

I needed to replace a couple of turbo pipes anyway because they were bent, but I'd definitely recommend steering clear of any car with a corroded / damaged water pipe, it's basically almost all the steps you'd need to follow to change the turbo and clutch...!

Still, on the bright side I'd say I'm a couple of evenings' work at most from being able to drive the car, well assuming none of the oil / water pipes leak after all that fiddling about.
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 16, 2021, 02:50:57 pm
Wohoo, just had it running properly for the first time since I got it :lala:

Still got a 'check engine' warning so need to check that out and I must say it's not the smoothest sounding engine ever. I do hope it's not been overheated and spun a bearing, but don't know what they're supposed to sound like at idle so it might be normal, this is the first 4 cylinder inline engine I've owned in over 20 years...

Leaving it to cool down so I can top up the coolant, check for leaks, etc, then time to try and get multiecuscan or suchlike up and running (still have that installed from the Alfa) to see what the CEL is about. Assuming all is well, it's then time to sort out and fit the replacement bumper, and then time for a road test.
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 16, 2021, 03:03:07 pm
Actually not quite right - the Pug XU10J4 2.0 was a an inline four, but it was very revvy and well-balanced so if the engine itself sounded like anything but a well-oiled sewing machine you knew it was done for.
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 17, 2021, 02:55:19 pm
....And sorted.

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/hN9fME.jpg)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/p8k7fR.jpg)

Still not checked into the error codes (turns out none of my diags kit will talk to a modern Fiat) but took it for a 5 min drive around the block - feels just right. And the light clattering has calmed down, must have been because it hasn't run for quite a long time.
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 17, 2021, 03:43:22 pm
A nice little bluetooth ELM 327 adaptor just arrived in the post, connected it to Torque Lite, cleared the fault code for the damaged wastegate actuator which I replaced, and it didn't come back instantly.

Just need the new tyres (for my new wheels), V5 (so I can get some new number plates) and a fresh MOT, and I can start driving it.
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on November 17, 2021, 04:37:58 pm
And the light clattering has calmed down, must have been because it hasn't run for quite a long time.

Hydraulic tappets :thumb:
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 17, 2021, 04:54:15 pm
And the light clattering has calmed down, must have been because it hasn't run for quite a long time.

Hydraulic tappets :thumb:

I hoped as much, I'm guessing it's been a good 2-3 months since this car's last been run :thumb:
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 19, 2021, 12:54:15 am
V5 came through so rushed down to Halfords for some insanely expensive number plates, just got to get the new wheels fitted tomorrow with Goodyear Eagles + get wheel alignment checked, and it's ready for an MOT to make sure I haven't missed anything.

Also did a couple of short runs in it and clocked up about 20 miles on twisty roads, I definitely prefer the steering feel in 'normal mode' to sport - the torque steer isn't so obvious when accelerating out of a corner and it doesn't have a weird dead spot around straight ahead with the epas.

Is there any way to remap the epas? If not I suspect I won't be using sport mode very much ;)
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on November 19, 2021, 09:54:26 am
I agree with you regarding the steering feel, much too artificial in sport mode. :-X

I am not aware of a work around.
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 19, 2021, 10:58:21 am
I agree with you regarding the steering feel, much too artificial in sport mode. :-X

I am not aware of a work around.

I was thinking about trying to fiddle a standard 500 cabrio epas in there (the weighting's about the same on them I think) but if it did work presumably the 'sport mode' would then result in the steering having 'parking mode' weighting, which may feel even worse. Might have to have a word with a remapper at some point to see if the ecu map can be altered so the 'sport mode' button doesn't change the epas setting.
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 19, 2021, 03:02:07 pm
Sorted. New number plates on, new wheels on, wheels aligned :)

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/922/6xwWkz.jpg)

It definitely feels like it has a little more 'urge' with the lighter wheels on, seems to tramline less and feels more stable. Not sure if that's down to a small difference in tracking, the slightly wider wheel track or swapping to Goodyear Eagles, but it certainly feels good...
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: a3Jeroen on November 19, 2021, 03:31:48 pm
Mine is always (and Ireally mean always) in Sportmode. Kinda feels broken in normal mode.

gr J
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 20, 2021, 12:40:16 am
Mine is always (and Ireally mean always) in Sportmode. Kinda feels broken in normal mode.

gr J

I'd probably like it if it wasn't for the epas, it just feels wrong to me. Car certainly feels nice and chuckable on it's new wheels, I suspect I might be fitting some DNA Racing components sometime to sharpen it up even more, though that would mean a switch to coilovers, which I don't particularly want to do yet.
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 24, 2021, 09:33:00 am
Interesting day yesterday, it passed it's MOT with flying colours, not even a single advisory :lala:

And whilst I was waiting for the MOT results, these landed on my doorstep, so once I've got a bit more used to it, the modifications can begin

(https://imagizer.imageshack.com/v2/640x480q90/924/iQ03TX.jpg)

I have noticed one little oddity though - if you're wide open throttle and then back off a lot on the approach to a corner the car does a near-imperceptible wiggle. This would most likely be hidden by the straight ahead 'dead spot' in sport mode (maybe that's eve why the dead spot is there), but is this normal?

It'll be easy to get used to if it is, and may even become endearing (bit like it's a bit over-excited) but will obv need more investigation if it isn't...

BTW I did some 'brake maths' (using the aptly named Subaru 'brakemath' spreadsheet) and it looks like the Brembos will move the brake bias 8% towards the front, which given it's already got a massive front brake bias, might explain why many reviewers mention the car diving under heavy braking... I'm thinking vaguely of trying out 'fast road' pads on the back whilst leaving standard pads on the front because this will pull the bias 13% back towards the rear, but this might prove to be too much given the car's roughly 70/30 weight distribution.

Anyone else tried anything similar to balance the brakes up a bit, or is messing with the rears a recipe for a fishtailing disaster?
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 24, 2021, 10:00:02 am
Thinking about it more and using a bit of O level / gcse physics, I wonder if the wiggle is caused by the 'wobble blob' strut top mounts? Bearing in mind the front strut top mounts are basically a big lump of rubber which aren't anchored to the car, if you suddenly remove a lot of clockwise twisting motion from them (torque) by backing off the throttle, they're bound to spring back a bit even if they're brand new (like mine).
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 24, 2021, 05:50:43 pm
Put in an order for some new rear discs and EBC Greenstuff pads. Figured they'd be a safe choice for the rears since that's only a slight pad upgrade over standard, though will be interesting to see how they cope; sounds like they may not suit lightweight cars unless you do a lot of heavy braking judging by some reviews, but we shall see...

Also bought some standard Brembo-made pads for the front; Brembos can be a bit choosy about the pads (they can stick if not exactly right) so worth getting the real McCoy.
Title: Re: My project begins...
Post by: mj2k on November 25, 2021, 10:05:29 am
Took it on my usual 14 mile round trip down country roads to the local Tesco, definitely about 10mph slower out of the corners than my old modified Subaru Legacy wagon. But then I'm not 100% confident in it yet and I suspect the centre of gravity will be somewhat higher and nearer the front, so not too surprising.

Still great fun though, and as a major plus on the way back all the shopping crammed into the boot, which meant the bags stayed upright and I didn't have to spend another 10 minutes hunting for lost groceries rolling around in the back, like I did with the Legacy ;D