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Offline Lagerlout

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Tuning
« on: April 24, 2009, 11:18:54 pm »
Hi all,

New here, considering buying an Abarth and immediately modding it! Drove one the other day and was very impressed. I've performed a few searches and looked at the Italian Abarth forum but of course as I don't speak Italian I'm limited as to what I can understand.

Does anyone have a summary of what is available at the moment?

A few random questions..

What brake options are there, I see brembo anything else?
Is it possible to source any of the Assetto corse mods, ie wheels, decals, grille etc? Even if just cosmetic?
The Romeo Ferrari mods look good if rather expensive, does anyone here have any of these mods?
What is the most cost effective way to get your Abarth over 200 hp?
Should I start with a standard abarth or go for an Esseesse? I guess the former if I'm modding the car? Most mods seem to be for the std car.
What is available shock wise? Any coilover kits?

Thanks all!
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    Offline davidj1888

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    Re: Tuning
    « Reply #1 on: April 24, 2009, 11:52:22 pm »
    I have the standard car and I ll probably SS it just before its a year old... I m a bit unsure as to upgrading the bhp with aftermarket products mainly due to the fact none are really tried and tested as is the engines reliability at 160bhp+

    If I was you I d go with the standard car and then keep an eye on the forum and see what mods look good, for the first year at least( while you can still SS it) that way you can make your own mind up. Surely the italian mods will filter through to the UK market, judging by the interest on this site alone I d say there would be a good demand for such mods

    I ve seen the romeo ferrari mods and they look and sound great my only concern is the cars drivebility whist pushing 200bhp, and actually getting the power down in first gear.

    I m going to keep an open mind just now and enjoy my car as it seems to get faster and more agile the more I drive it and thats at 135bhp
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    Re: Tuning
    « Reply #2 on: April 25, 2009, 12:17:06 am »
    Euroboy has done his homework (Google a translator):

    https://www.abarthforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,316.45.html

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    « Last Edit: April 25, 2009, 12:19:38 am by needsmust »
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    Re: Tuning
    « Reply #3 on: April 25, 2009, 12:39:42 am »
    Lagerlout,

    On standard turbocharger with BMC air filter (or some other performance air filter) with remap you should hit something about 170-180HP and ~280Nm. I've seen some performance data from A500 with Garret T2554R and with 0.9bar it produced 190HP, when A500SS makes its 160HP with 1.1bar of boost so it will surely break 200HP barrier on bigger turbo on standard boost. But T2554R is much bigger turbo than standard IHI and the lag would be worse so there's a plan to try with smaller GT1548 which is good for about 220-240HP with lag similar to standard IHI.

    When talking about better suspension you can choose from some not so expensive (~800-900EUR) coilover kits:

    - H&R (front 40-60, rear 55),
    - KW Variant I (front 30-60, rear 10-40),
    - Vogtland (front 30-60, rear 10-40),
    - Eibach Pro-Street-S (front 25-55, rear 30mm),
    - Novitec (front/rear 40-80mm).

    If you want bigger brakes, there's a Tarox kit for 500 with 330mm discs and B33 10 pot calipers but it's not cheap:



    But you can surely try with some Brembo calipers, custom made adapters and discs up to ~330mm which will be cheaper but you need to have somebody who'll make custom adapters for you.
    « Last Edit: April 25, 2009, 12:42:34 am by frytol »

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    Re: Tuning
    « Reply #4 on: April 25, 2009, 10:32:40 pm »
    Thanks for the info guys. I'm not worried about warranty/resale etc so will wade in I think. Plan so far will be to buy a basic 135hp Abarth, add brakes, lightweight bucket seats, wheels, shocks and add HP. Seems like G-tech is the way to go as Romeo seems a bit overpriced.

    Frytol, are you in the UK? Do you know any tuners who already work on 500's at the moment who can do bespoke RR tuning? I agree lag free is best, that's one of the best things about the standard car, does not feel like a turbo as there is virtually no lag.
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    Re: Tuning
    « Reply #5 on: April 25, 2009, 10:37:41 pm »
    I've driven the standard and the esseesse, and to my mind the lag was a bit more intrusive in the esseesse.  It was faster though.
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    Ghiacchio Comp, all options.

     

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