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Tuning & Modifications => Abarth 500 => Topic started by: 500Kent on October 07, 2013, 03:43:14 pm

Title: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: 500Kent on October 07, 2013, 03:43:14 pm
Had Fiat Coupe bump stops fitted to the rear of my standard A500 this morning and all I can say is wow!

Without trying to over-egg the pudding, and being fully aware that subconsciously I know something is different, my usual bumpy, jiggly daily ride to the gym today has been transformed.

The back of the car now sticks to the road rather than bouncing about over anything bigger than a fag paper, and feels much more settled generally. Not once in the 8 mile trip did I hear the awful BANG! BANG! that we're all used to on the standard stops.

I can actually feel the suspension working in the rear now. Don't get me wrong it's still a very firm ride, but you hear rather than feel the very worst potholes that would have caused the horrendous noise before.

Its next major test will be when I visit my girlfriend in the week where the roads are more like the surface of the moon than a public highway and then her reaction to being driven in it with the bump stops changed. She hated it before.

So impressed am I, that Koni FSD upgrade has dropped off the 'to do' list for the time being. I can live with the ride as it is now. You can see the extra amount of suspension travel they give in the pics below - the yellow one being the Coupe's.

I'll post further updates over the next couple of weeks to see if I'm still impressed or if the novelty has worn off.

ALL A500s should come out of the factory like this -  a £50 upgrade that makes a world of difference.

Apologies for another thread on this topic, but I thought it warranted one given the results.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: AdeyAbarth on October 07, 2013, 04:25:36 pm
A nice saving over the Konis too  :thumb:
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: 500Kent on October 07, 2013, 04:38:03 pm
A nice saving over the Konis too  :thumb:

As long as the novelty continues!!
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Nadeem on October 07, 2013, 07:07:01 pm
I have a ever growing collection of parts, including these.  Just waiting for my rear pads and then it's off for a service to get the bump stops done.  How much labour time was it for the bump stops?
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Merlot on October 07, 2013, 08:08:11 pm
Nice bit of space under those, can barely get a finger under mine. May have to try this  :thumb:
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: 500Kent on October 07, 2013, 08:12:13 pm
How much labour time was it for the bump stops?

I had the common squeaking rear brakes issue on mine and that was the main reason it was in. Once they'd taken them apart to grease and clean them, they found it also needed new rear pads - so I let them do that as well as fitting the new bump stops.

All in all it they charged me an hour's labour + VAT - £60 which given the improvement is a bargain!!

Wasn't counting on the £30 cost for pads, but hey, if they were due doing best they were done while the brakes were already in pieces eh? Talking of which, are now silent which is a joy!
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: 500Kent on October 07, 2013, 08:15:31 pm
Nice bit of space under those, can barely get a finger under mine. May have to try this  :thumb:

Do it!

£47 for the stops and about an hour's labour to fit them. You should be looking at £100 all in. Been out tonight on some really rough roads, had the odd BANG! BANG! but SO much less jiggling, bouncing and the back hopping about all over the place.

I'm really pleased with the result. It's never going to be Rolls Royce smooth, but this tiny mod is a huge improvement. If you have an EsseEsse/Lowered car you'll REALLY notice the difference  :thumb:
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Peptalk on October 07, 2013, 09:51:22 pm
Is anyone running Coupe bump stops with Konis? I've only ever known my Esseesse with Konis, so I can't comment on the ride without them but I'm wondering if the bump stops would improve the ride even further?
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Trooper on October 07, 2013, 10:11:04 pm
Yes they should improve the ride even more  :thumb:
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: needsmust on October 07, 2013, 11:29:14 pm
Yes, they do.
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: N.Monkey on October 08, 2013, 08:17:18 am
Anyone know why they don't come with these as standard??
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: 500Kent on October 08, 2013, 08:34:49 am
Anyone know why they don't come with these as standard??

Cost saving at a guess, which is ridiculous given the RRP to us peasants is only £17 per side. The Konis should be standard kit too!!
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Peptalk on October 08, 2013, 10:29:38 pm
Thanks Tropper. I'm assuming ebay or my local Fiat dealer is the best place to buy them?
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: 500Kent on October 08, 2013, 10:38:22 pm
Thanks Tropper. I'm assuming ebay or my local Fiat dealer is the best place to buy them?

Partsworld Direct - if you pick the phone up the postage is ever-so-slightly cheaper :)
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: 500Kent on October 10, 2013, 09:29:27 am
Ok so visited the GF for the first time since having it done (much to her disgust) and the road that would normally result in a trip to the osteopath was considerably less awful with the new bump stops, as was the level crossing on the way there.

I can't recommend this mod highly enough - it's £50, why wouldn't you do it for the improvement?
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: BADBOX on October 11, 2013, 04:16:03 pm
Hi Guys, I have another recent post regarding me ruining my ride with standard shocks and eibach springs. Where can i get these bump stops from, do I need just for rear or fronts too, and can any mechanic fit them?

great post by the way I cant wait to do these and possibly change all for koni fsd but which springs will be the best for smooth back street driving and also firm for cornering

Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: 500Kent on October 11, 2013, 04:42:01 pm
Hi Guys, I have another recent post regarding me ruining my ride with standard shocks and eibach springs. Where can i get these bump stops from, do I need just for rear or fronts too, and can any mechanic fit them?

This is what you need x2 - and yes, any garage can fit them. It's a really easy job, you could even do it yourself if you're that way inclined - I'm not, hence using a garage.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brand-new-Genuine-Fiat-Coupe-rear-suspension-bump-stop-bush-7782710-/271214204760?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&fits=Car+Make%3AFiat%7CModel%3ACoupe&hash=item3f25a05758

I bet once you've done this, the Koni's drop off your 'must do' list. Let me know how you get on  :thumb:


Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: BADBOX on October 11, 2013, 09:03:31 pm
Nice, ordered !! its the fiat coupe right? Shame we cant do anything to the front as thats where all the bang seems to come from and the eibach's lower the front more than the back.
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: K77NAN on October 11, 2013, 09:23:33 pm
Nice, ordered !! its the fiat coupe right? Shame we cant do anything to the front as thats where all the bang seems to come from and the eibach's lower the front more than the back.

Surprised you think that...the 500 as standard sits higher on the back end, and with Eibachs fitted it levels the car out :thumb:

If I remember correctly,  you get new front bumpstops with the Eibachs springs too ;D
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: BADBOX on October 11, 2013, 09:30:31 pm
I am still convinced I have the eibach sports on instead of the pro's . They are red not black but apparently the abarths are one of  few cars that the pro's are red. It has leveled it slightly, the front however is lower. A bit too low for my liking. Rear sits perfect.

Can t wait to put these bump stops on and really want to upgrade to koni with either the springs TMC supply or these Eibachs. I wish i knew which would be the better comfort ride but still firm . I need to get this right before I change from 16" alloys to 17" with possible lower profile which I dont want to do. 45 profile on 17" would be great but not sure if they will rub. Then I will inform my insurance company about Upgraded Suspension ,larger wheels and possible exhaust
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: K77NAN on October 11, 2013, 09:38:04 pm
Ahhhh...think we just had a small communication error...yes, the front wil stlll sit lower than the back, but the back is 'lowered' more :thumb:

For what it's worth, my old car with standard dampers, eibach pros, and no bump stops gave a much harsher ride than my 595 running the standard konis dampers/brembo springs set up....it was certainly better in the twisties though :thumb:
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: BADBOX on October 11, 2013, 10:09:08 pm
need the bump stops with the koni too?
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: 5L1M on October 12, 2013, 01:10:52 pm
Yes, Ive just ordered some too... Check your back coils the gap between the bump stop and spring base is about a thumbs width, Konis are a HUGEEEEEE improvment over standard set up but still a little bouncy on the rear when it gets bumpy, also not even hard breaking (in my eyes) will cause the hazards to flash.
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: deeceeburns on January 02, 2014, 09:11:48 pm
Just to add to the chorus of approval for the coupe bump stops...

The ride is still firm, but as an earlier poster said, you can actually feel the rear springs working after the mod. No more bangs.

Two bump stops were £44 from Partsworld on eBay. Had Arnold Clark in Perth fit them while having first MOT done. Charged me £66 all in to fit.

Delighted of Pitlochry..!
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Clarky136 on January 06, 2014, 02:53:16 am
I know this has probably been asked but are the bump stops fine to kit onto an 'SS' with the Koni's already fitted? Has anyone gained experience of this and its potential improvement?

500KENT --- How have they been so far over the winter? Still shouting from the roof tops about them or have you uncovered any issues that would help others? Ty for the original posting!!  :thumb:
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Gregi on January 06, 2014, 01:37:17 pm
Mine were fitted while Esseesse Koni kit was mounted. Totally fine! I can't imagine having there original bump stops as there would be no place left for suspension travel. Here you have some post-fitting photos. On the first photo the suspension is lifted, on second one it is loaded:
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: deeceeburns on January 07, 2014, 01:23:46 am
My car is an esseesse, bump stops change is no problem, I'd say
even more important Zander useful to fit.

Mystery is why the coupe parts are not just in the esseesse kit box anyway..?
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: 500Kent on January 07, 2014, 02:28:56 pm
500KENT --- How have they been so far over the winter? Still shouting from the roof tops about them or have you uncovered any issues that would help others? Ty for the original posting!!  :thumb:

So far so good mate. I've moved area recently and roads are abysmal. So much so that I'm actually thinking about selling the car. Not even a set of Koni's would make it bearable :(
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Caineoo on January 07, 2014, 03:25:38 pm
I would also agree that these have handled all the weather and lots of miles so far. No problems with them and to be honest for the price are really really worth it. I was hesitant at whether they made much of a difference but after a few miles in them you can tell!!!! They SHOULD BE standard kit on Esseesse.
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Glen on January 07, 2014, 08:59:33 pm
Nice little thread for a nice little Mod. I just picked up my A500 on a 13 plate last week. Much is made of suspension set up on these, am i right in thinking that the suspension / shocks were revised on 12/13 plate over previous models or am i imagining that.

Also would I be right in thinking that fitting the Coupe Bump stops would/could preserve the life of the shocks?

Cheers for any replys.

Glen from Kent
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Wolfboy74 on January 10, 2014, 12:32:18 pm
Coupe bump stops and remap to 180 bhp all book in for the 1st of March so cant wait :)

Going by what you guys have post the bp stops are going to make a huge difference.

New to forum so any information from you guys would be very much appreciated :)
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: benn on January 10, 2014, 02:36:07 pm
Got a pair of bumpstops yesterday for £14.14p ;)

Shall try get them fitted this weekend.
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Wolfboy74 on January 10, 2014, 02:48:35 pm
Hi mate where did you get your bump stops from also are they fiat coupe ones ?
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: benn on January 10, 2014, 02:54:45 pm
Hi mate where did you get your bump stops from also are they fiat coupe ones ?

I got them through where I work. They are FEBI Bilstein ones.

Look identical and are for a Fiat Coupe. I will get parts numbers later for you when I get them home.
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: benn on January 10, 2014, 05:54:15 pm
As requested.

Here are the Febi Bilstein ones I purchased. You can see the part number in the photo. Cheapest on ebay seems to be around £14 per bumpstop so still a bit cheaper than the "genuine" Fiat ones.

If you go on Febi Bilstein website it even marries up to the correct OE Fiat part number 7782710.

I'm sure if you rang a supplier of Febi Bilstein such as your local motor factors or Euro car parts you could probaby get them for £10 each.

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5537/11874579086_f6558c59d9_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/11874579086/)
500 abarth rear bump stops (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/11874579086/)
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Nadeem on January 10, 2014, 07:53:35 pm
Anyone with bump stops and 17s (without spacers) had any issues with the wheels scraping?
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: needsmust on January 12, 2014, 01:09:02 am
No. Go for it.
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Clarky136 on January 12, 2014, 03:07:32 pm
Well this is quite a good thread!!  :thumb: Nice to see a little ''cheap'' and useful mod/upgrade even idiots (aka myself) can do!

I've taken the plunge and bought a pair of Ebay, £14.39 each with free postage so quite good! I know people mentioned you might be able to get a tiny bit more off but tbh for the few pennies I didn't worry to much

I'll post back like a few others have during the week my findings from the road use and fitting  :thumb:
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: grimwau on January 12, 2014, 04:15:58 pm
I had a quick look on ebay and nearly bought some of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/FEBI-36976-Fiat-500-1-4-Abarth-312-09-HATCH-BUMP-STOP-RR-/190980024289?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c774be7e1 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FEBI-36976-Fiat-500-1-4-Abarth-312-09-HATCH-BUMP-STOP-RR-/190980024289?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c774be7e1) but noticed that the Febi code they used was not the same as above, 36976 as opposed to 36979. Anyone know if there are two types?
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: heliharris on January 13, 2014, 12:25:50 pm
Well this is quite a good thread!!  :thumb: Nice to see a little ''cheap'' and useful mod/upgrade even idiots (aka myself) can do!

I've taken the plunge and bought a pair of Ebay, £14.39 each with free postage so quite good! I know people mentioned you might be able to get a tiny bit more off but tbh for the few pennies I didn't worry to much

I'll post back like a few others have during the week my findings from the road use and fitting  :thumb:

Hi,

Do you have the ebay link for these!!! Euro car parts do not have any in stock.

Thanks.

Mick.
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Clarky136 on January 13, 2014, 02:49:48 pm
Well this is quite a good thread!!  :thumb: Nice to see a little ''cheap'' and useful mod/upgrade even idiots (aka myself) can do!

I've taken the plunge and bought a pair of Ebay, £14.39 each with free postage so quite good! I know people mentioned you might be able to get a tiny bit more off but tbh for the few pennies I didn't worry to much

I'll post back like a few others have during the week my findings from the road use and fitting  :thumb:

Hi,

Do you have the ebay link for these!!! Euro car parts do not have any in stock.

Thanks.

Mick.



Last time I copied a link I was politely reminded about details on here (oppsss...) So my advise would be search FEBI 36979 Fiat On Ebay and that should give you a good few options. The number is the part number with Febi obviously the supplier. It should offer your items for a Fiat Coupe 2.0L which the part is officially designed for (as others have mentioned on this very thread). Hope this helps  ;D
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: heliharris on January 13, 2014, 04:13:18 pm
Thank you very much Clarky, just ordered two. :thumb:

Much appreciated.

ATB.

Mick.
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: heliharris on January 13, 2014, 04:40:03 pm
I had a quick look on ebay and nearly bought some of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/FEBI-36976-Fiat-500-1-4-Abarth-312-09-HATCH-BUMP-STOP-RR-/190980024289?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c774be7e1 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FEBI-36976-Fiat-500-1-4-Abarth-312-09-HATCH-BUMP-STOP-RR-/190980024289?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2c774be7e1) but noticed that the Febi code they used was not the same as above, 36976 as opposed to 36979. Anyone know if there are two types?

Hi,

I`m pretty sure these (36976) are a replacement for the standard length bump stop.

I refer you to my previous reply to Clarky above this.

Mick.
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: heliharris on January 15, 2014, 01:26:02 pm
Mine arrived at 09.30 this morning, up and running by mid-day.

Here is a photo of my old standard bumpstop against the new shorter one, which clearly shows the difference in length.

(http://i757.photobucket.com/albums/xx211/heliharris/IMG_0596.jpg) (http://s757.photobucket.com/user/heliharris/media/IMG_0596.jpg.html).

Mick.
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: benn on January 17, 2014, 08:43:17 am
Nice to see other people buying the Bilstein ones :)
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: CandyCupcake on July 02, 2014, 01:38:09 pm
Sorry for bumping this thread!

But I've just ordered my bump stops from ebay and I'm going to get them fitted next week!  After reading all of your reviews, they sound like just what I need. Hopefully meaning I can put the Konis on hold and get all of other mods done first :D
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: sylvano on July 03, 2014, 02:12:32 pm
Isn't it necessary to upgrade the bump stops in front axle? ???
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: CandyCupcake on July 08, 2014, 07:20:24 pm
Just had my bump stops fitted  :o

Amazing difference!!  :thumb:
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: rjtrout on July 11, 2014, 04:20:15 am
Getting mine fitted along with H&R springs in two days. Can't wait!
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Tegs on July 31, 2016, 01:55:57 pm
Hi
Could anyone put me in the right direction where to buy these from ? Thanks for any help .
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Mastoras on July 31, 2016, 03:41:52 pm
  Got mine from ebay last week part number 7782710. I will install them soon
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: benn on July 31, 2016, 10:46:35 pm
Hi
Could anyone put me in the right direction where to buy these from ? Thanks for any help .

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161461269414 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161461269414)
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Tegs on August 01, 2016, 01:21:47 pm
Thanks
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Coxy12 on August 04, 2016, 08:10:19 am
So what is the difference between these new bump stops and the standard ones? More clearance or something? Just curious how a bump stop can improve a ride so much is all.....Not trying to put a downer on the topic, more so curious, if it is worth while doing this, I will get them changed also.
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: benn on August 04, 2016, 09:08:24 am
The standard bump stops are too big, they pretty much sit bottomed out. So any big bumps etc its not great over.

The new ones are shorter and allow more suspension travel. So over big bumps or when carrying rear passengers its a lot better.

Its still like being punched in the back of the head like all Abarths, but a more comfortable punch haha!
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: Coxy12 on August 04, 2016, 10:01:42 pm
The standard bump stops are too big, they pretty much sit bottomed out. So any big bumps etc its not great over.

The new ones are shorter and allow more suspension travel. So over big bumps or when carrying rear passengers its a lot better.

Its still like being punched in the back of the head like all Abarths, but a more comfortable punch haha!

Lol I thought that must be the case, I noticed the other day when I was under my car, there was about 10-15mm gap between the bump stop and the shock.....makes sense, Might order myself some then!

Thanks for the reply!
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: ollie rs on April 19, 2018, 03:42:34 pm
I have a 2017 Series 4 595 (base model), will this have revised bump stops compared to the pre facelift model or have they remained the same?
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: FLP on April 20, 2018, 08:03:51 am
The coupe bump stops are still much shorter, I've fitted them on mine after lowering it.
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: whizzo944 on July 03, 2021, 11:31:32 am
Hello All, just done the bump stop mod to my 595 base model, and after driving it for a short while it feels a little bit weird, like the rear suspension is actually working :-)

Dave.
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: jl-c on August 28, 2021, 06:28:02 pm
Had a new rear axle fitted on our Abarth 500C ( up rated imaxles unit ) and coupé bumpstops. Wow, what a difference. No crashing noises and the rear end is much more poised. Axle nicely finished and hopefully will not have to worry about the tin worm for a while!
Title: Re: What a difference! (Bump stops)
Post by: steeley on September 29, 2021, 10:49:29 pm
Update on Febi Bilsein/Coupe shorter bumpstops. It's all true,  the whole car rides so much better ! For info' mines a 2019 Comp' with O.E. Koni FSD dampers and O.E. springs that I believe are Eibachs supplied to Abarth and the bumpstops can be changed through the lower spring coils without dismantling anything or undoing the lower bolts. Cost me £22 on Ebay and literally ten minutes to fit once the car was jacked up. Long O.E. bump stops just pull out by hand and the new shorter ones push through the coil gap and locate into the holding hole with a little help from a large flat blade screw driver. It's crazy how effective this cheap mod' is and well done to whoever came up with it. Car rides so much better over broken surfaces and corners much more settled now the chassis can load up properly rather than skip or buck. Brilliant folks, GO DO IT !  :thumb: