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Offline Brian1612

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180 comp Monza Sound.
« on: October 07, 2015, 09:38:26 pm »
Not sure if its more miles (now nearly 1700) or the TMC box I added by my SS Monza is now letting off a loud rasp like pop if upshifting under hard acceleration (60%+ throttle position). Trying to decipher if its the extra miles or the TMC box. Regardless its doing it on command now and I love it! :D
« Last Edit: October 08, 2015, 01:50:25 pm by PORTHOS »
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    Re: 180 comp Monza comparison
    « Reply #1 on: October 08, 2015, 08:44:55 am »
    Not sure if its more miles (now nearly 1700) or the TMC box I added by my SS Monza is now letting off a loud rasp like pop if upshifting under hard acceleration (60%+ throttle position). Trying to decipher if its the extra miles or the TMC box. Regardless its doing it on command now and I love it! :D

    Is yours the new tmc then or an older one reprogrammed for the 180?

    How is it now, should go a lot better does it?

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    Re: 180 comp Monza comparison
    « Reply #2 on: October 08, 2015, 10:14:17 am »
    Old box from my APE reprogrammed. Oh it makes a noticeable improvement. Torque really hits hard now around 2k. Very impressed so far and the new boxes may give even better results than my older one due to different interior hardware!
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    Re: 180 comp Monza comparison
    « Reply #3 on: October 08, 2015, 10:17:59 am »
    Have you had it on a dyno to see what the numbers are?

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    Re: 180 comp Monza comparison
    « Reply #4 on: October 08, 2015, 10:32:07 am »
    Not sure if its more miles (now nearly 1700) or the TMC box I added by my SS Monza is now letting off a loud rasp like pop if upshifting under hard acceleration (60%+ throttle position). Trying to decipher if its the extra miles or the TMC box. Regardless its doing it on command now and I love it! :D

    I think it's the extra miles and the spring becoming a bit looser. I noticed this on mine but no pop :( If I'm in 5th at low RPM, give it the beans until it peaks boost, then let off, it makes an awesome rasp noise. Similar to the 160 Monza but louder :thumb:

    Maybe I need to nail it a bit more for back fires...hmmmm

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    Re: 180 comp Monza comparison
    « Reply #5 on: October 08, 2015, 10:43:06 am »
    Not sure if its more miles (now nearly 1700) or the TMC box I added by my SS Monza is now letting off a loud rasp like pop if upshifting under hard acceleration (60%+ throttle position). Trying to decipher if its the extra miles or the TMC box. Regardless its doing it on command now and I love it! :D

    Mine has done that for a while now, always around 3k rpm on shifting. VERY raspy sound.

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    Re: 180 comp Monza comparison
    « Reply #6 on: October 08, 2015, 10:44:42 am »
    Old box from my APE reprogrammed. Oh it makes a noticeable improvement. Torque really hits hard now around 2k. Very impressed so far and the new boxes may give even better results than my older one due to different interior hardware!

    Get it on a dyno!  ;D

    Bluespark made one for someone, after putting it on a dyno they gained 2bhp lol! Although their development was a case of email and asking and the guy turned up the next day to have his box reprogrammed so I'm not entirely sure what they could of done in a day.


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    Re: 180 comp Monza comparison
    « Reply #7 on: October 08, 2015, 11:00:08 am »
    Old box from my APE reprogrammed. Oh it makes a noticeable improvement. Torque really hits hard now around 2k. Very impressed so far and the new boxes may give even better results than my older one due to different interior hardware!

    Be Careful Brian, Abarth have the 180 and Biposto at around 250Nm because the Driveshaft etc is standard, anything above that and you are asking for trouble, Abarth actually put driveshafts from a Diesel in the 695 Assetto Corse to handle the 300Nm of torque (which most people with JUST a tuning box brag about!)

    Seen it too many times now people ruin their driveshafts with WAY too much torque on a tuning box. I know one personally who has (not surprisingly) kept quiet about it.
    « Last Edit: October 08, 2015, 11:02:30 am by PORTHOS »

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    Re: 180 comp Monza comparison
    « Reply #8 on: October 08, 2015, 11:36:28 am »
    I had this exact box on my APE esseesse for 1 year, on a higher setting than suggested without any issues. That was running 246 lb/ft of torque on setting 6, mines went to setting 8 so may have been running more with no issues to note!

    I can't see there being any problems with the safety of the box (touch wood) but will be curious to see what it is running on the next dyno as my car was only hitting 161 bhp before. May run it as standard again and then with the box to gauge if the power increases with mileage also. Standard the torque was slightly higher than expected at 191 lb/ft on that run.
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    Re: 180 comp Monza comparison
    « Reply #9 on: October 08, 2015, 11:43:30 am »
    Yeah the APE has a completely different set up. It's a completely different car. the Abarth 180 still has the same driveshaft as the 135..... it's near it's limit, this is why they wont do much more powerful versions, they need to upgrade a ton of parts first.
    « Last Edit: October 08, 2015, 11:48:08 am by PORTHOS »

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    Re: 180 comp Monza comparison
    « Reply #10 on: October 08, 2015, 11:48:12 am »
    Be Careful Brian, Abarth have the 180 and Biposto at around 250Nm because the Driveshaft etc is standard, anything above that and you are asking for trouble, Abarth actually put driveshafts from a Diesel in the 695 Assetto Corse to handle the 300Nm of torque (which most people with JUST a tuning box brag about!)

    Seen it too many times now people ruin their driveshafts with WAY too much torque on a tuning box. I know one personally who has (not surprisingly) kept quiet about it.

    Whats this issue? Yet to witness anything myself. Been running over 300nm ourselves now for nearly 27k with zero issues.


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    Re: 180 comp Monza comparison
    « Reply #11 on: October 08, 2015, 11:51:22 am »
    I haven't heard anything myself and seems to be plenty of people with boxes/maps producing even more power/torque. My mates is running 243 bhp, will need to ask him about the driveshaft then.
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    Re: 180 comp Monza comparison
    « Reply #12 on: October 08, 2015, 11:55:04 am »
    You wont hear anything because the people with the problems keep quiet, lol.

    I'm sure there are lots of happy people out there, it's not a rule, just a fact that you are increasing torque beyond what the car was built to handle. It's just common sense and everyone should bear this in mind. No need for sarcasm.

    This is why I will never buy a second hand Abarth, god knows what it's had on before and just taken off.
    « Last Edit: October 08, 2015, 12:16:10 pm by PORTHOS »

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    Re: 180 comp Monza comparison
    « Reply #13 on: October 08, 2015, 12:17:52 pm »
    Surely TMC have tested all this though with safety in mind and know the limitations? They seem a well respected company so I would guess the box would keep within the safe parameters of the car.
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    Re: 180 comp Monza comparison
    « Reply #14 on: October 08, 2015, 12:22:27 pm »
    Was the 161 bhp on or off the box?