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Re: 180 comp Monza Sound.
« Reply #30 on: October 08, 2015, 01:54:26 pm »
Oh lord that's mental. That's good so brian can use that as a sort of indication  :thumb:

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    Re: 180 comp Monza Sound.
    « Reply #31 on: October 08, 2015, 01:56:39 pm »
    Oh lord that's mental. That's good so brian can use that as a sort of indication  :thumb:

    Yeah, I bet it goes like a stabbed rat with that torque.

    They reckon with couple of choice mods, 225bhp and 300ftlbs is achievable.  :devil:

    But yeah, certainly a good starting point for Brian.

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    Re: 180 comp Monza Sound.
    « Reply #32 on: October 08, 2015, 02:01:14 pm »
    God, my APE was under powered and now this... what a ball ache!

    Looks like I may have to drop Oliver another message and confirm there is an issue with the car going by these figures...
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    Re: 180 comp Monza Sound.
    « Reply #33 on: October 08, 2015, 02:03:06 pm »
    I'm hoping the tuning box experiment hasn't fried anything!

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    Re: 180 comp Monza Sound.
    « Reply #34 on: October 08, 2015, 02:15:23 pm »
    Not at all Porth, the tuning box was fitted after I had this dyno run so the issue was there before hand :(
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    Re: 180 comp Monza Sound.
    « Reply #35 on: October 08, 2015, 02:19:32 pm »
    Not at all Porth, the tuning box was fitted after I had this dyno run so the issue was there before hand :(

    Fingers crossed they find out what's going on.  :thumb: It must be quite lethargic then up to 3k looking at that? Mine is literally spooling up quite hard at 2k rpm.

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    Re: 180 comp Monza Sound.
    « Reply #36 on: October 08, 2015, 02:31:42 pm »
    It genuinely feels quick but I am not comparing it to an old 160 bhp model but an APE SS I had. May be more difficult for me to spot any issue with it compared to you guys.
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    Re: 180 comp Monza Sound.
    « Reply #37 on: October 08, 2015, 02:36:22 pm »
    Would be difficult to tell, the 160 Abarth was quicker than the APE anyway due to the lighter weight.

    On the plus side, when you do get it back to 180bhp, it will feel absolutely crazy, ha ha.

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    Re: 180 comp Monza Sound.
    « Reply #38 on: October 08, 2015, 03:29:55 pm »
    Just a thought but is it possible my car could have been flashed with the wrong map for the old Competizone? It's figures are almost bang on what you would expect that to be producing.

    On another note, the service manager has told me the abarth technical team would suggest I run it for a few more miles and see if things loosen up. I have another dyno day coming on the 28th of november with quite a few abarth guys up here in Scotland. Will be at least 1, possibly 3 other 595 180bhps there from the same dealership so I can confirm if I have an issue by comparing their results to mines.

    In the meantime I will just carry on driving it, going to take the box out for now also and fit the blank and allow the engine to bed in further, I just don't see another 1k miles making such a big difference to my performance.
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    Re: 180 comp Monza Sound.
    « Reply #39 on: October 08, 2015, 03:34:16 pm »
    Just a thought but is it possible my car could have been flashed with the wrong map for the old Competizone? It's figures are almost bang on what you would expect that to be producing.

    Very, very unlikely as it's done in the factory by chassis number but not impossible.
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    Re: 180 comp Monza Sound.
    « Reply #40 on: October 08, 2015, 03:38:14 pm »
    Perhaps something you can do, I have always gauged the performance of my car based on a 60-80mph pull on a relatively flat stretch of motorway, that was how I originally realised I had a problem with my 160, here is the original post:

    https://www.abarthforum.co.uk/500-abarth/boost-leak-symptoms-and-fix/msg540433/#msg540433

    Basically I timed 60-80mph pulls in 5th gear (foot flat down starting at 50mph to discount any throttle lag), stock 160 comp was around 7 seconds to complete. 80mph on the speedo is only 75mph in real life so you wont get in trouble by the way.

    In comparison, my 180 comp (on 800 miles now) takes around 6 seconds over the same stretch of road.

    So if your car is around the same sort of time as mine, then it's fine and just where it's wearing in, but if it's around 7, it's clear you have a problem.

    These times helped me gauge what the 160 should have been putting out over the same 60-80 run.
    http://www.evo.co.uk/mini/mini/14164/abarth-500-esseesse-v-mini-cooper-s
    « Last Edit: October 08, 2015, 03:45:01 pm by PORTHOS »

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    Re: 180 comp Monza Sound.
    « Reply #41 on: October 08, 2015, 03:46:36 pm »
    100% sure John?

    I was told it is still done by the dealership during the PDI and also that the map is indeed specific to chassis numbers...

    Porthos & Benn, I have just remembered another incident with the car. I put it down to the valve being wired open at the time but I took it out a spirited drive about 2 weeks back and at one point, I went from 1st gear to 2nd, planted my foot sitting at 3k revs and the car done nothing. After 3-4 seconds it burst into life again and went like nothing had happened...

    What are your thoughts on this?



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    Re: 180 comp Monza Sound.
    « Reply #42 on: October 08, 2015, 03:50:09 pm »
    Small Misfire....... temporary sensor fault  ???..... did you say once the car kept stalling from pulling away? Mine has never done that.

    The plot thickens!
    « Last Edit: October 08, 2015, 03:51:41 pm by PORTHOS »

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    Re: 180 comp Monza Sound.
    « Reply #43 on: October 08, 2015, 03:54:11 pm »
    100% sure John?

    I was told it is still done by the dealership during the PDI and also that the map is indeed specific to chassis numbers...

    200% sure.
    We haven't mapped a car on PDI for about 18 months, they've all come out of the factory with the correct power.
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    Re: 180 comp Monza Sound.
    « Reply #44 on: October 08, 2015, 04:01:25 pm »
    I went from 1st gear to 2nd, planted my foot sitting at 3k revs and the car done nothing. After 3-4 seconds it burst into life again and went like nothing had happened...

    What are your thoughts on this?

    I've experienced this before in ours before it was mapped. Yet to experience since being mapped.

    Don't know if you noticed, but on ours the boost gauge rose but as you say the car doesn't really go anywhere then the second if picks up and off it goes as normal.

    I done some reading online and the closest thing I found to it was compressor surge.

    I don't suppose the car chatters at all does it? It could be a leaky standard dump valve.