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Title: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: asr1143 on January 06, 2021, 04:45:07 pm
Hi, anyone knows the size of the rotors of the abarth 595 competizione 2017 179hp??
When I try to buy online discs it only gives the choice of the 305mm 2 discs float brembo, (200 euros each)  but some says that it comes stock with 284mm in the front and 240mm at the rear.
Anyone knows ?
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: TBliss on January 08, 2021, 06:10:24 pm
Hi ,

The fronts are 305mm on my 2017 comp.


Tim.
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: asr1143 on January 08, 2021, 07:33:59 pm
hi, when i try to buy online rotors i got mostly 284mm aftermarket discs, like ABE, Zimmermann, ABS, etc and brembo only the 305mm two discs floating but man they cost a fortune and they don't look like the original i have at the moment on my car, i emailed abarth today to see what i need for my car.
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on January 08, 2021, 07:54:21 pm
Do you have single pot sliding calipers or 4 pot fixed calipers?
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: asr1143 on January 08, 2021, 08:18:44 pm
i'm not sure but i think they are 4 pot fixed callipers, but man 220 euros each disc plus pads and the labour that's wild lol.
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on January 09, 2021, 11:02:51 am
If you have the Brembo 4 pot fixed caliper and floating disc then yes they are expensive compared to solid one piece disc :whistle:

I wonder if the 2 piece floating disc can be replaced with the solid disc?  :thumb:
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: asr1143 on January 09, 2021, 11:13:14 am
When I look at my discs on my abarth they have nothing to do with the floating discs, floating discs have this metal plates with screws all around the discs, mine look like normal discs with holes that’s it, actually the floating discs look like carbon ceramic brakes, I emailed abarth gave them my VIN number let see what they tell me.
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on January 09, 2021, 02:15:38 pm
Seems like you have the solid disc anyway.

Do they measure 305mm?
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: TBliss on January 09, 2021, 02:22:41 pm
I believe mine are solid but they are 305mm.


Tim.
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: TBliss on January 09, 2021, 02:30:42 pm
As you have done, send abarth your vin and they will source correct part. It can get even more expensive should you get the wrong part.
Saying that if you are confident enough take existing off measure all (vented? / width? / diameter?/ setback) and order.

Tim.
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: asr1143 on January 09, 2021, 07:48:49 pm
Thanks to all, I got the car since December 2020 so I’m not sure about the discs size, and now it’s snowing in Munich I’m not really willing to take the wheels off and measure the rotor, I will wait for abarth to answer me, but I really doubt that my car only takes the floating brembo discs, I hope not cause they’re expensive, but as I do only 7000 km a year if I have to they will last very long.
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on January 10, 2021, 11:37:50 am
As your car is 2017, please be aware that the official Abarth Brembo upgrade kit could have been fitted, since new, replacing the possibly original sliding caliper.

So the vin may not show the upgrade if fitted. :whistle:

https://www.abarthcars.co.uk/kit-accessories/brembo-braking-system-kit2

https://www.abarthcars.co.uk/kit-accessories/180-hp-tuning-kit-180-hp-upgrade-kit
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: 695C on January 12, 2021, 04:31:10 pm
Thanks to all, I got the car since December 2020 so I’m not sure about the discs size, and now it’s snowing in Munich I’m not really willing to take the wheels off and measure the rotor, I will wait for abarth to answer me, but I really doubt that my car only takes the floating brembo discs, I hope not cause they’re expensive, but as I do only 7000 km a year if I have to they will last very long.

If you have the floating discs, then buy the floating discs again. They are not expensive for what they are and any unsprung weight that you can shave off is good. Solid discs will add unsprung weight and that is bad in any form or way for a sports car.

This is what the floating disc look like and you should be able to see if that is the one you have on your car.
https://www.autodoc.dk/brembo/7611780

If it is, then it is 305. I have not seen solid discs in 305.

Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: Pidsy on January 13, 2021, 10:31:55 am
Front discs on my computer need changing. It’s a 2017 car - the discs are not floating 2 piece discs.

Has the proper Brembo set up - iirc, only the pre 2017 brembo cars and the Biposto had floating discs.

Info from garages and the internet is conflicting over the correct replacement.
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: asr1143 on January 14, 2021, 11:25:18 am
@695C, mine are not floating discs I’m pretty sure but if they were I would have no problem to replace them with originals, my problem is my I try to purschase discs with the model of my car the website suggested me only the floating from brembo and mine don’t look like floating, aftermarket it recommends me discs that are 284mm, so I’m confused, I’m still waiting for abarth answer.
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on January 14, 2021, 02:02:46 pm
I think this may answer the query...

https://www.partsworld-uk.com/collections/500-abarth-parts-brakes/products/brake-disc-front-500-abarth-competizione-2016

 :)
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: Pidsy on January 19, 2021, 01:15:06 pm
It gets more confusing.

My discs are definitely not floating. They are solid and 305mm wide.

Abarth are now quoting almost £600 to supply discs and pads.
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: TBliss on January 19, 2021, 06:16:56 pm
Your discs are the one in the link above.   Tim.
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: asr1143 on January 22, 2021, 11:39:44 am
Here in Germany I can’t find those on the link by brembo only after market, brembo I get only the floating discs.
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: android_808 on January 23, 2021, 01:38:51 pm
NOTE: Please only use the following as a reference and get the part number checked somewhere to ensure it's correct before purchasing anything as I don't know for certain.

I had floating discs on my S3 Competizione 180hp.  My 70th Esseesse, like the current Competizione, has non-floating 305x28mm's.  I'm not sure the exact point they switched to non-floating, but given the 2016 I'm thinking introduction of Series 4.

When I Google "abarth part number competizione front disc" in UK, I can get the same site as posted above but with a different link (https://www.partsworld-uk.com/products/brake-disc-front-500-abarth-competizione-2016).  The Google results page suggest a part number of 52041114 but it doesn't show on the page when I go into the link.

Several sites list this part number, one of which was moparstore.co.uk, apparently "THE OFFICIAL STORE FOR ACCESSORIES, PARTS AND SERVICES FOR FCA VEHICLES".  If thats the case there must be a German version, and there is, https://moparstore.de/catalogsearch/result/?q=52041114.  You can get it to filter by number plate but that doesn't work for me on UK site, shows no results.  Haven't tried by VIN.  Each item has technical specs section at the bottom and these show as 305mm.

Also using Google, searching for the above part number along with site:*.de to limit it to any website ending in .de bring up some more results at cheaper prices.  Again not being familiar with German car parts stores, I don't know how good any of these are.

I would get onto dealership or Abarth Customer Service/Head Office to get them to tell you the actual part numbers.
Title: Re: 284mm or 305mm brembo front rotors
Post by: asr1143 on January 27, 2021, 05:24:05 pm
thanks to all for the answers, abarth finally answered me with all the specs of my car, pretty nice actually, i have the performance pack, its basically full specs, so my front brakes are 305x28mm ø 38mm, 4 pistons, they aren't easy to find here in germany from brembo but aftermarket i found zimmermann don't know if they're good but well let see.