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Abarth Rattling Sound & Car Cover Help
« on: November 12, 2021, 12:10:06 pm »
Hi all, I've an Abarth 595 which I recently purchased and I've just noticed that there's been a rattling sound from underneath. On the day I purchased the car I remember coming up to a roundabout and since I was focusing on the roundabout looking to my right as you do I drove over a really bad pot hole. The sound didn't come immediately after that, the sound came I'd say maybe a couple weeks afterwards and at first would only happen on roads which are steep whether they be down or uphill. Now I am noticing the rattling a lot more, whenever I drive on an uneven road or on a speed bump. This is the case even when travelling very slowly 5-10mph.

Any ideas what it is?

All I can think of is that one bad pot hole I went over the day I purchased the cat and then each patch of uneven road/speed bump has loosened whatever it is more.

Also I've noticed when driving in the countryside some of the roads have been a bit up and down, very uneven and bouncy and I have felt the wheels hit the wheel arch or atleast that's what I think is happening. Im aware of where this happens now so I avoid going at any sort of speed at these locations but the first couple times I drove I weren't aware so this happened a few times so could this have knocked something causing the rattle?

Lastly, I've a car cover which I got from UK Custom Covers and for the most part it's fine. However a week or so ago we had some very windy days and the car cover would partially come off. Now I have a rope which I tied to the cover however as the wind was so strong it would still come up past the bumper and the rope has left some scratches. The scratches I don't think they are very deep, though the way it looks, it's like I've reversed into something which is obviously not the case.

Does anyone have any advice on how to remove these scratches. It's a shame as the rest of the car is looking pretty, I used the cover in the hope of protecting it but instead it's ended up scratching it.

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    Re: Abarth Rattling Sound & Car Cover Help
    « Reply #1 on: November 12, 2021, 02:16:34 pm »
    Hi and welcome :)

    Hopefully there will be at least one more person along to help (it seems to be a little quiet on here) but most likely the rattling is one of the front suspension top mounts - 500s are renowned for going through them at a rate of knots. Not sure how you'd check exactly, but if you open the bonnet and bounce the car you might be able to see one of the top mounts moving or hear it clunking.

    If you're planning to do the work yourself you'll need spring compressors, a couple of crows foot spanners, a torque wrench, some allen keys (or pref hex sockets), a normal socket set and a dirty great can of wd40 because the top mount bolts inevitably rust solid.

    As for scratches, try polishing them out maybe? If they're too deep you might have to live with it though, unless you go to a good bodyshop and get it resprayed (DIY or a bad bodyshop respray will just make it look worse).

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    Re: Abarth Rattling Sound & Car Cover Help
    « Reply #2 on: November 12, 2021, 02:48:49 pm »
    All wheelbolts tight? Droplinks are usual suspects on any car I think.

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    Re: Abarth Rattling Sound & Car Cover Help
    « Reply #3 on: November 12, 2021, 06:25:11 pm »
    All wheelbolts tight? Droplinks are usual suspects on any car I think.

    gr J

    Good point, though they don't seem to get mentioned as much as the 500 top mount issue.

    Hi btw, didn't know you were on here  :wave:

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    Re: Abarth Rattling Sound & Car Cover Help
    « Reply #4 on: November 12, 2021, 07:51:20 pm »
    The most common causes of rattles are the rear seats not fully locked in place.

    They really do need a hard push to slam into locked position :whistle:

    Other than that the rear silencer sometimes knocks the body. May need slight bending of the mount lugs.

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    Re: Abarth Rattling Sound & Car Cover Help
    « Reply #5 on: November 14, 2021, 01:24:29 pm »
    Hi and welcome :)

    Hopefully there will be at least one more person along to help (it seems to be a little quiet on here) but most likely the rattling is one of the front suspension top mounts - 500s are renowned for going through them at a rate of knots. Not sure how you'd check exactly, but if you open the bonnet and bounce the car you might be able to see one of the top mounts moving or hear it clunking.

    If you're planning to do the work yourself you'll need spring compressors, a couple of crows foot spanners, a torque wrench, some allen keys (or pref hex sockets), a normal socket set and a dirty great can of wd40 because the top mount bolts inevitably rust solid.

    As for scratches, try polishing them out maybe? If they're too deep you might have to live with it though, unless you go to a good bodyshop and get it resprayed (DIY or a bad bodyshop respray will just make it look worse).

    Thanks all for the input, that may well be what it is. Not being a mechanic I think I will leave it to the professionals to deal with as I'd love to be able to do everything one day but first I'm going to start small such as changing the air and pollen filters myself then I could move on slowly but surely to the bigger things.

    I have purchased Autoglym Super Resin Polish so I hope to try that on the scratches once it arrives.

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    Re: Abarth Rattling Sound & Car Cover Help
    « Reply #6 on: November 14, 2021, 08:00:31 pm »
    Changing the pollen filter will not be one of your easier jobs :whistle:

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    Re: Abarth Rattling Sound & Car Cover Help
    « Reply #7 on: November 17, 2021, 10:50:03 am »
    Changing the pollen filter will not be one of your easier jobs :whistle:



    Doesn't look too difficult, just a bit annoying with the pedals/steering column being in the way. I don't have to remove either of those do I?

    Also what can I expect regarding maintenance/servicing cost wise. I've a major service coming up, although I'm also needing new tyres, brake discs & pads and as it's turning 6 years old the timing belt so understandably this one is going to be an expensive one.

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    Re: Abarth Rattling Sound & Car Cover Help
    « Reply #8 on: November 17, 2021, 02:17:37 pm »
    Find a specialist check Alfa owners club for reviews of garages near you that’s how I found mine ( Edinburgh ) be prepared for no fancy reception and waiting areas.

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    Re: Abarth Rattling Sound & Car Cover Help
    « Reply #9 on: November 17, 2021, 04:35:35 pm »
    Changing the pollen filter will not be one of your easier jobs :whistle:



    Doesn't look too difficult, just a bit annoying with the pedals/steering column being in the way. I don't have to remove either of those do I?



    Just work your way round them ;D

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    Re: Abarth Rattling Sound & Car Cover Help
    « Reply #10 on: November 17, 2021, 08:39:53 pm »
    Find a specialist check Alfa owners club for reviews of garages near you that’s how I found mine ( Edinburgh ) be prepared for no fancy reception and waiting areas.

    Will have a look thanks most likely will be going to the specialists for everything apart from air filter and pollen filter. Pollen filter I'll try have a go if I can't I'll just get it done from them when I get the service done.

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    Re: Abarth Rattling Sound & Car Cover Help
    « Reply #11 on: November 24, 2021, 07:37:44 pm »
    Could it be that the old owner has removed the spring on the exhaust valve and the it's valve that makes the noise?

    Is around 2500 rpms?

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    « Reply #12 on: November 25, 2021, 03:29:24 pm »
    Could it be that the old owner has removed the spring on the exhaust valve and the it's valve that makes the noise?

    Is around 2500 rpms?

    Well, yesterday I took it out for a short drive as I hadn't driven it for a couple weeks since I heard the sound had worsened I just wanted to give it a short drive so the 12v battery doesn't die out on me. Anyway so yesterday I didn't hear the noise as I was straight onto the motorway. So when there are no bumps and the road surface is smooth the rattle isn't there. Its only when going over a bump or uneven roads. I wouldn't say its particularly around 2500rpms as when I am going over bumps I am going very slowly.


    Also since the day I drove it round the countryside a few weeks back I now have a couple  rather annoying interior rattles as well, one is coming from the drivers door and the other sounds like it's from the dashboard. It's a bit like there's a biro pen stick rattling around. I didn't really hear them too much yesterday since I was on the smooth motorway road but any bump/uneven sections they are there.

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    Re: Abarth Rattling Sound & Car Cover Help
    « Reply #13 on: November 25, 2021, 05:36:01 pm »
    Your best solution is to get it up on a ramp, go under it and prod and move anything until you get the noise. There are a million and one things it COULD be! Heat shield, exhaust, plastic arch liners, drop links, etc etc. It is the only way!
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    « Reply #14 on: November 26, 2021, 12:34:57 am »
    Your best solution is to get it up on a ramp, go under it and prod and move anything until you get the noise. There are a million and one things it COULD be! Heat shield, exhaust, plastic arch liners, drop links, etc etc. It is the only way!

    Suppose that's once way of doing it.

    I've a question regarding the timing belt. I called my nearest Abarth dealer in Darlington they quoted me it was either £455 or £465 for the timing belt. I asked them how much they charged for it without fitting and they said £105+Vat. I checked Euro Car Parts and all it is on there is £50 odd. But obviously I don't know whether the one from Euro Car Parts is any good or not. What would you guys do? I am thinking buy the original of the dealer and get it fitted elsewhere.

    https://www.eurocarparts.com/p/skf-timing-belt-kit-348771799