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Title: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: John501 on November 21, 2008, 09:28:53 am
Good morning guys,
I can now officially confirm the spec, colour and wheels for the first 200 Abarth 500 that are coming to this country.
500 Abarth 1.4 turbo 135 BHP
1949 white
Red Leather
red side stripes and mirrors
Climate control
17" upgraded alloys.
The picture attached is of the exact spec, but obviously the picture is of a LHD car.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: Chumley on November 21, 2008, 09:35:49 am
Brilliant, thanks for that John.

I'll still wait to spec mine though. I now find myself strangely drawn to grey with white wheels! Can't help but feel that would be a mistake of yellow puma proportions - yes I've had one of those too...  ;D
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: OPC on November 21, 2008, 09:48:14 am
I like grey the most. It's a pretty cool colour and I think white, or red stripes would look good.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: Chumley on November 21, 2008, 09:53:40 am
I agree. In these pics, it looks fabulous although there are others where it looks decidedly battleship grey!
http://www.netcarshow.com/fiat/2009-500_abarth_esseesse/
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: JKDesign80 on November 21, 2008, 10:05:55 am

Yep, unless this turns out to be a great deal, I will wait to spec my own.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: John501 on November 21, 2008, 10:26:07 am
There will be no "deal" on the car, It will be the price of the car plus the extras.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: JKDesign80 on November 21, 2008, 10:39:10 am

Be interesting to see the take up then.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: Chumley on November 21, 2008, 10:50:38 am
After TG, I'd imagine the 200 will go quite readily, even with the comments that some people's circumstances have changed or they've lost patience waiting - both of which are understandable.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: Trikster on November 21, 2008, 11:01:42 am
Actually pretty close to my spec anyway.. assuming thats 'proper' white :)

Any news on what is standard John? And any interior shots likely to be coming through (assuming you would have posted if you already had them)

Wonder how soon after launch the esse-esse kits will be available.. hmm....

Our garage is going to look very pale.. Golf Gti.. Candy White.. Elise.. Aspen White... 500.... well you get the picture - just the Aston for a shot of colour....
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: John501 on November 21, 2008, 11:08:15 am
From a dealer point of view, I can understand peoples frustrations, its just as frustrationg for me. Good things come to those that wait, and with this I think it will be worth it.
As far as the 200 launch cars, we wont get stuck with them. When 500 was launched, every dealer got a 1.4 lounge in white with skydome and italian side stripe. This is by no means the most popular combination, but they went very quickly because of the "its there so I must have it" factor. Although we are in the middle of a depression, there are still people out there willing to spend money. If there weren't people prepared to spend, then the country would grind to a halt. Lets all hope that doesn't happen!!!!
Trikster, 1949 white is the same as bosa nova white on the 500.
Standard kit will include:
air con
Blue + me
remote locking
electric windows
7 airbags
analogue turbo gauge
optimum gear change light
cd player with MP3 compatability
steering wheel with flattened bottom

I don't know about the Esse Esse kits. They can't be that different to the G.P. kits and I can get one of those in 10 days now. I do know that you dont change the turbo on the 500, it dosen't need it.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: AlexK on November 21, 2008, 01:14:07 pm
And any interior shots likely to be coming through...

I assume you've seen the LHD ones that have been around for a while..?

Esseesse blurb is here: 500 Abarth Esseesse tech spec (https://www.abarthforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,5.0.html)
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: John501 on November 21, 2008, 01:21:52 pm
That reminds me, do not expect to see the drivers foot rest in the RHD version, there is no room to mount it.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: olopboy on November 21, 2008, 02:32:25 pm
Nice spec and I dare say a few will more will specced exactly the same later in life. By the time I finally get to test one I dare say they'll be long gone so might as well wait for black with red leather.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: Trikster on November 21, 2008, 02:37:07 pm
That reminds me, do not expect to see the drivers foot rest in the RHD version, there is no room to mount it.

Damn... silly as it sounds but somewhere to rest my left foot that's comfortable is important for me .. :s Is it the same deal in the 'normal' 500's? Might have to go and have a butchers...
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: John501 on November 21, 2008, 04:19:13 pm
Yes it is the same with 500, when we fit the pedal kit it is impossible to fit the foot rest.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: Shep76S on November 21, 2008, 06:05:17 pm
Any idea if the rear seat folds?
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: John501 on November 21, 2008, 06:15:19 pm
It will definately fold, but whether its split or not, I don know
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: James on November 21, 2008, 06:54:14 pm

Hi Chaps

Firstly, I'd like to introduce myself. I've just joined the forum today having just paid my deposit with John for the 500 Abarth.
Chumleys photos that he gives the website to I've just looked at. When the photos are small the car does indeed look grey (and lovely in that colour) but when you click on the photos to enlarge them, I think the car is actually white but that the room the car was shot in is giving a false impression. The reason I say this is if you look at the photo of the car John has provided, there is a car behind it in the grey colour that the car is available in and it is very much battleship grey. Far darker than the shade in Chumleys photos.

What's the view on leather? Is it worth the extra money or should I go with the standard fabric seats and get the sunroof instead?

Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: JKDesign80 on November 21, 2008, 07:02:16 pm
Been informed the first 200 will be £15,000!


Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: John501 on November 21, 2008, 07:27:55 pm
Hi James, welcome. The car behind in my photo is a mock up in the abarth factory with various parts cut away to show the upgrades from the Fiat 500. That one is indeed in primer grey. I'm of the same impression though, I think the one in chumleys photos is in funk white, but I could be wrong.
JK, who told you it would be £15000?
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: JKDesign80 on November 21, 2008, 07:38:02 pm
Hi James, welcome. The car behind in my photo is a mock up in the abarth factory with various parts cut away to show the upgrades from the Fiat 500. That one is indeed in primer grey. I'm of the same impression though, I think the one in chumleys photos is in funk white, but I could be wrong.
JK, who told you it would be £15000?

The Abarth dealer Westover told me this afternoon.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: AlexK on November 21, 2008, 07:45:05 pm
That's about what I make it, too.

These are all assumptions, some based on the GPA, but £13,500 + £250 (climate) + £850 (leather) + £500 (wheels) = £15,100.

This is just rampant speculation on my part, so please don't quote me.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: John501 on November 21, 2008, 07:47:08 pm
No disrespect to Westover, but I think they are just guessing by working on 500 prices.
Working with £13500 for the car,
£850 for Leather,
£120 for the stripes and mirrors,
£250 for climate
£150 for the wheels.
Total £14850. I have been working with this theory for a while for customers, the only problems are:
1, The exchange rate is in the toilet at the moment.
2, We dont know whether the wheels will be £150 or £500
3, The leather option may be a bit more expensive for the Abarth than the 500.
I dont think we will have to wait too much longer for official prices though.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: iain500 on November 23, 2008, 02:30:54 pm
John the pic you've posted is from the Geneva show in March (I was there and admired the 500A from the Maserati stand across the way in the pic before crossing over to see it) and the car was finished in Funk white not 1949 white. It is admittedly hard to tell from the pic, granted.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: JKDesign80 on November 23, 2008, 05:40:47 pm

Also John, was told if I don't go for one of these I will actually have to wait till February to spec my own, surely this can't be right?
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: John501 on November 23, 2008, 07:33:14 pm
No, that isn't right. Ordering is due to open possibly next week. Once it does, you can spec the car as you want it. From ordering to delivery should be between 12-14 weeks. The only problem is that if you miss the early ordering you may have to wait a long ,long time to get your car.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: Chumley on November 23, 2008, 11:06:05 pm
I think you'll find the car in the pics is grey: I agree its very bright compared to some of the other pics but the shade difference between the panels and the wheels is too great, and also compared to the Abarth logo on the wall. Also note how the red on the chequered roof is that much darker. The lights in our styling studio at Jaguar can also perform great feats regarding colours and shades.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: AndyW on November 24, 2008, 03:05:48 pm
Nice spec, its exactly what I'd go for if I were ordering one now, so the fact that was the only spec on offer right at launch wouldn't bother me.

One thing I have decided though, when I buy one I'm buying one from John. I don't care how far away he is from me he's given the straightest and most honest answers of any Abarth dealers so far, and he rightly deserves some sales.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: John501 on November 24, 2008, 03:09:23 pm
Thanks Andy, It never hurts to tell the truth in a trade that is associated with blokes in trilby hats abd sheepskins. ;D
The motor trade will never shake that image as long as it remains largely unregulated.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: AndyW on November 24, 2008, 03:14:56 pm
Thats the thing, in a way it feels a bit daft to say thanks for giving such clear and honest posts from the trade, but as you say, the buying public expect (and often get) the very opposite.

I have a friend at BMW and like yourself (in as much as I can tell from your posts) is very good at what he does by being passionate but also clear, honest, accurate and personable.  The Fiat dealer we had our Panda 100HP was very good in that regard, and its a shame they aren't an Abarth dealer as we'd have surely gone back.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: John501 on November 24, 2008, 05:50:59 pm
You usually find that the family run dealers, irrelevant of size are much better at customer service. Thats because the owner of the buisness is usually on site and dosen't want to hear that customers are unhappy. As you said in your previous post, If you are happy with the service you will come back for more and tell some friends. If your unhappy, you will never return and tell everyone.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: dazza on November 25, 2008, 01:35:20 pm
heard on the grapevine wheels will be alternative 17" alloys, will have stripes and mirrors, and scorpian decal on bonnet for first 200
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: AlexK on November 25, 2008, 04:19:49 pm
Read the first post in this thread, dazza.  And no scorpion graphic.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: Shep76S on November 25, 2008, 05:06:15 pm
.......but he is a dealer??

Read the first post in this thread, dazza.  And no scorpion graphic.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: dazza on November 25, 2008, 05:11:25 pm
you will also find they are different 17"option for wheels i think!!!!!
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: AlexK on November 25, 2008, 05:12:58 pm
https://www.abarthforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,123.0.html
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: dazza on November 25, 2008, 05:16:54 pm
opt 4ay
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: dazza on November 25, 2008, 05:23:04 pm
have a picture, will try to post.....
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: AlexK on November 25, 2008, 05:25:05 pm
Ah, you think it has different wheels to those confirmed by John?  Not just 'alternative' wheels... ok...
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: olopboy on November 25, 2008, 05:51:53 pm
Hmm suprised they aren't fitting the dish styled ones that were on the motorshow cars, although every test car I've seen since have been on the others. but as I would seriously consider the Esse Esse kit if I got one I wouldn't pay for 17"s twice.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: John501 on November 25, 2008, 08:57:25 pm
Sorry i've not been here to answers guys, but i've been in a meeting all day (not with Abarth).
Dazza is refering to an e-mail that was sent yesterday, which I received this morning.
The official spec that was released by Abarth U.K. last week was not quite correct! The correct spec is as seen in Dazzas picture. Alloy wheel option 4AY and a red scorpion on the bonnet.
Hopefully by now, all of my customers should have received a phone call from Jon C about it, if not I'm sorry and we will get to you tommorrow.
Pictures of the interior below.
By the way, if you don't want the scorpion on the bonnet, we can easily remove it for you.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: James on November 25, 2008, 09:43:01 pm
Well I'm glad really as this has confirmed for me that I will be speccing mine myself. I like the other wheels that were originally going to be on it. I would be suprised if anyone asks for the scorpion on the bonnet to be left on! I think it looks really naff.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: JKDesign80 on November 25, 2008, 10:13:11 pm
Well I'm glad really as this has confirmed for me that I will be speccing mine myself. I like the other wheels that were originally going to be on it. I would be suprised if anyone asks for the scorpion on the bonnet to be left on! I think it looks really naff.

Agreed, no point spending what I consider a lot of money on a car your not 100% happy with.

I'm personally pretty disappointed with this dictated to spec, and that I'm going to have to wait even longer to get the 500 Abarth I want, especially as I placed deposit back in July.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: Chumley on November 26, 2008, 10:42:06 pm
See my comments on the thread "500 due date"
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: JKDesign80 on November 27, 2008, 12:03:29 am

Also when we placed a deposit, although Abarth had not announced a price for the car, it was pretty well put about it will cost approximately £13.5k + options.

But these 'Launch Models' are putting it firmly close or to £15k quite far over peoples expectations I'd say.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: Max292 on January 03, 2009, 09:21:32 pm
Does anyone know if the first 200 or the standard 500 Abarth spec comes fitted with the "Interscope" hi-fi system with the sub?  Not that i'm some bass loving boy racer, i just like good music with some bass - honest! 
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: olopboy on January 03, 2009, 10:47:46 pm
I'm not 100% sure it will be badged  Interscope but all the 500's (2009my anyway) will come with the Hifi upgrade as standard just like the GP, big thumbs up as it was one of the options I was going to buy.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: Portti on January 04, 2009, 09:10:22 am
I don't know how it will be in the UK but the Interscope system seems to be standard equipment on 500A at least in Italy, Germany, Austria and France. The Netherlands is the only country that I know of where Interscope is an option (400 eur).
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: magicmole on January 04, 2009, 09:27:58 am
Sorry, I'm in thick mode here this morning. Is the Interscope system just the sub that I have fitted to my AGP? €400 seems a lot for a plastic box.

I assumed it was rather more than the sub.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: euroboy on January 04, 2009, 10:08:11 am
The interscope is an external sub under the seat, external amp, and 6 uprated speakers.  It was well worth the 400EUR I paid.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: olopboy on January 04, 2009, 10:12:59 am
Fairly sure its the sub (def), upgraded (possibly extra) speakers (?) and a digital sound processor (def). My other half has the Panda version which sounds excellent, I've got BOSE in the 159 which is much better though  ;D so will look forward to seeing how the Panda/500 compare.

Shame Abarth didn't BOSE in to do their systems although a lot of thier home entertainment stuff is over hyped the car systems and small speaker systems are always excellent quality for the price.
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: olopboy on January 04, 2009, 10:14:15 am
Dang you euroboy and your super fast reflexes. Oh well at least we get ours for free :P I have to find one little thing just to stop the jealousy
Title: Re: Official spec for first 200 launch 500
Post by: John501 on January 04, 2009, 12:04:58 pm
Interscope is standard in the Abarth 500