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Title: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: AlexK on November 21, 2011, 10:09:51 am
The new Abarth 595 is making its world premier in Bologna. This model ratifies the return to the concept of "deriving" standard models on which Karl Abarth built the Scorpion legend more than 60 years ago. With this new model the brand further expands the Abarth 500 range and is arriving with two customisations, "turismo" and "competizione". They address two different targets - the first more attentive to personality and comfort and the second more "racing purist" - but they both have one fundamental aspect in common: passion for the sportiness that distinguishes all Abarth models.

In both customisations the car is fitted with a 1.4 Turbo T-Jet engines whose power has been increased to a good 160 HP (118 kW) with the use of the standard engine customisation kit. The engine is a 1368 cm3 4 cylinder 16 valve unit (turbocharged with a fixed-geometry IHI turbocharger) that delivers exhilarating performance. Torque is 230 Nm at 3000 rpm in Sport mode. Top speed is 211 km/h while acceleration from 0 to 100 km/h takes place in just 7.4 seconds. This is partly achieved by the over boost function, activated by the "Sport" button that modulates control unit mapping and turbo pressure in addition to load on the steering wheel. Yet this typically Abarth performance comes with very frugal fuel consumption: 6.5 l/100 km over a combined cycle.

In terms of safety, the Abarth 595 follows the top standards the Abarth 500 guarantees. As on all the other Abarths, it offers standard the TTC (Torque Transfer Control) device that by improving the transfer of drive torque to the wheels, enhances the car road holding without compromising the fun to drive it. The car is equipped as standard with Xenon headlights with dipped and main beam functions for improved light emission and excellent efficiency under all weather conditions. These elements deliver three times the light intensity and duration of standard halogen lamp headlights.

The car is offered in two different customisations. With the "turismo" styling, the Abarth 595 is designed for everyone who loves sportiness and performance, and at the same time wants elegance and personality. Abarth is bringing back a few trend-setting elements with this customisation that have already in the past distinguished another highly successful car, the Abarth 500 Convertible. First and foremost is the two-tone livery which is being presented for the first time on a saloon. The car on display at the stand in Bologna flaunts a two-tone metallic Rosso Officina and Grigio Pista livery with white liner. It is embellished with the revival of the historic 595 logo in aluminium on the side panel and tailgate, the latter further personalised with the aluminium Turismo graphics. Gran Turismo inspired titanium-coloured 17" alloy wheels contribute to the car's elegance. The Abarth 595 "turismo" offers as standard the electrically-operated manual Competizione gearbox with controls on the steering wheel, which exalts engine performance by reducing gearshift times. The gearshift paddles are placed on the sporty black leather steering wheel with perforated ears, which enhances the interiors together with the red leather sports seats. The attention to detail that makes this customisation of the Abarth 595 unique is also emphasised by the special "flocking" treatment for the central tunnel and dashboard. It is the first time a state-of-the-art treatment in the fashion and design industry is applied to the automotive field. Pedal unit, kick plate and gearbox trim in the costly Alutex aluminium glass fibre material complete the standard equipment.

The second customisation, "competizione", is dedicated to the more extreme sports enthusiasts, to the true "racing purists", and is distinguished by elements that exalt its performance and sports car features to the utmost. The first element on the Abarth 595 "Competizione" is the 5-speed MT (Manual Transmission) gearbox that exalts personal driving style through a more direct relationship with the car. The metallic Grigio Record livery is completed with 17" titanium-coloured alloy wheels whose design is borrowed from Racing, with yellow Brembo brake calipers. Like for the "turismo" version, the side panel and tailgate are respectively embellished with the 595 and 595 "competizione" logo, both in aluminium.

The interiors also have a sporty and aggressive personality thanks to the "Abarth Corsa by Sabelt" leather and natural leather-coloured alcantara seats bearing the 595 logo embroidered on the integrated headrest. Special materials have been used to enhance the dashboard. Their appearance and finish call metal to mind to further accentuate the technical and sporty personality of this customisation. The same treatment is adopted for the backrest of the seats. Lastly, the gear lever knob made of Ergal, kick plate, pedal unit and aluminium running board - all decorated with the Abarth motifs - draw on the outfitting found on racing cars. Completing the characterisation are side bands in the shade of matte titanium, also applied on the door mirror fairings.

To exalt the performance of the Abarth 595 even more, customisation kits for setup and brakes are available for both versions. They guarantee a unique driving experience in terms of performance, handling and safety. Safety is always the focus with an Abarth tuning, and with these two kits the braking system is strengthened and the ride is adjusted. The first fits perforated, self-ventilated front disc brakes (diameter 284 mm x 22 mm), perforated rear disc brakes (diameter 240 mm x 11 mm), and high performance front brake pads, whereas the second provides front and rear Koni shock absorbers with FSD valve, and specific red springs set lower than those on the original car.

To further confirm the search for the maximum level of customisation of the Abarth 595, and following the successful example already tried out on the "Abarth 500 Cabrio Italia" Limited Edition, the special Tramontano leather bags "Tribute to Abarth" are available. They are also in the "turismo" and "competizione" versions, matching the interior shade of the two customisations. These bags will become available in all the shades of leather used for Abarth 500 interiors starting in December.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: olopboy on November 21, 2011, 10:16:21 am
SS power without the brakes or handling kit... :facepalm:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Joe on November 21, 2011, 10:17:59 am
I'm a bit confused. They grey one looks nice with the yellow calipers.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Exoticaholic on November 21, 2011, 10:27:41 am
I just wonder whether this will fuel the flames for the resurrection of the 'is 695 the greatest marketing....' thread?

I like both in any case. Would prefer Nero Scorpione instead of Grigio Pista on the GT though, and OZ Alleggeritas in black too.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on November 21, 2011, 11:12:56 am
I think they both look lovely! Wouldn't have a problem parking either on my drive   :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Tuddie on November 21, 2011, 11:56:30 am
Both look nice, wish mine had red leather on the rear seat like the one above.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: AusAbarth on November 21, 2011, 12:04:54 pm
Can I have the grey one with the FULL red interior - thanks  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: sandys on November 21, 2011, 12:08:29 pm
I must be getting old, I like the beige  :-[
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hippo on November 21, 2011, 12:15:16 pm
'Flocking' on the dash and central tunnel! Oh Abarth how you treat us!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: ESPER500 on November 21, 2011, 12:19:41 pm
Just beautiful. I'd have the sporty one in a heartbeat...and also digging the beige but I think its a nod to Ferrari rather than creeping old age :)

PS Is it just me or do those red seats look like the Rolling Stone 'lips' ???
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: braddels on November 21, 2011, 12:59:08 pm
I LOVE the turismo.

when will Jon come along and tell us that we can't have one  :thumbd:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on November 21, 2011, 01:11:28 pm
I will give you the good or bad news when it becomes available and official but dont hold your breath until maybe early next year :wave:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: garyskisplym on November 21, 2011, 02:45:07 pm
I want one will they be silly price like the 695???

Also have they got the garret or standard turbo
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hippo on November 21, 2011, 02:47:18 pm
Standard turbo. Looks cheaper than 695 to me.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on November 21, 2011, 03:52:43 pm
As Chris says. It's an SS (albeit most of a 695 SS kit) with a few aesthetic touches. I would say it's a case of 'rouging up the pig' but I could never say that about an A500SS :thumbd:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: olopboy on November 21, 2011, 04:00:44 pm
not even a full SS, as it mentions the lowering springs in the handling pack and the brake upgrades in another... so a mapped NP with xenons some nice paint and Sabelts not really that "racing purist" in my view  ::)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on November 21, 2011, 04:16:33 pm
not even a full SS, as it mentions the lowering springs in the handling pack and the brake upgrades in another... so a mapped NP with xenons some nice paint and Sabelts not really that "racing purist" in my view  ::)

So a TMC'd NP with Sabelts and Xenons - in fancy clothes :whistle:

Guess the price competizioni?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cbslade on November 21, 2011, 06:02:14 pm
Why are there rear seats and no ridiculous spoiler on the back of the Competizione or am I getting confused?  ???
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: olopboy on November 21, 2011, 06:04:44 pm
This is the 595 Comp not the 695 comp
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hippo on November 21, 2011, 06:04:56 pm
You're getting confused, and for good reason. It's all very confusing.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cbslade on November 21, 2011, 06:06:34 pm
 ??? It is, isn't it!

Never mind, I want a 695 Assetto Corse now anyway...  :wave: :thumb: ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on November 21, 2011, 06:34:51 pm
??? It is, isn't it!

Never mind, I want a 695 Assetto Corse now anyway...  :wave: :thumb: ;D

Track only though by the looks of it. ???
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on November 21, 2011, 09:02:33 pm
Im confused  ???

Wish they would just make some of these items available on the options list  ::)

500
595
695

 ???

Its hard enough convincing people its not a Fiat let alone its not a 500  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hippo on November 21, 2011, 09:03:22 pm
Seconded.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on November 21, 2011, 09:06:23 pm
i think thet should change the boot badge to suit the model so its a 595 or a 695 and not a 500 595 or 500 695 :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: biancodiablo on November 22, 2011, 10:57:08 pm
mmmmmmmmmm very confusing ..... whats gonna be next "design your own custom built A500 , no upper limit on price , spec , engine performance etc ? can clearly see how Abarth are thinking , but keep them "affordable" for the "abarth people" or possibly market more engine performance parts " genuine abarth" so that you can add at a sensible pace/price , like in the old days when Mr Abarth supplied real tuning parts in good old wooden crates ... isnt that the real spirit of the scorpion ?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on November 22, 2011, 10:58:43 pm
shiny sequential gear levers for all  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on November 23, 2011, 08:29:39 am
shiny sequential gear levers for all  ;D

Do you think they'd make it through the EU safety tests? ???

I had a vision of an over enthusiastic Abarthisti being impaled on one :'(
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on November 23, 2011, 08:42:51 am
That's one of the reason why the AC is only for track use.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cbslade on November 23, 2011, 11:54:33 am
How easy would it be to make a 500 Assetto Corse road legal?  ???

Would it be worth it? Has anyone done it?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on November 23, 2011, 11:59:13 am
its been done, there was one at brooklands last month :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: corsa on November 23, 2011, 12:18:47 pm
How easy would it be to make a 500 Assetto Corse road legal?  ???

Would it be worth it? Has anyone done it?

On some thread on here from some meeting/event there were pictures of a road-legal AC.
How difficult it is, no idea. Not a clue on how that things work here in the UK.

Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on November 23, 2011, 12:34:15 pm
the car i saw was registered but was due its first mot this month, be interesting to know if it passed
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on November 25, 2011, 12:01:13 am
I keep looking back at the two tone T the red and grey could well be my next car. Sort this out Mr 501 I feel a trade in coming on   :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on November 25, 2011, 08:56:20 am
It will be sorted when the stars are in allignment and Turin get their act into gear and give us some prices  :-*
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: garyskisplym on November 25, 2011, 09:08:57 am
It will be sorted when the stars are in allignment and Turin get their act into gear and give us some prices  :-*


May be a while then lol
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on December 03, 2011, 09:31:48 am
A great gallery from the Bologne Show:

http://www.motori.it/immagini/4350-1/stand-abarth-motor-show-2011.html?foto

looks like the Turismo might have flock on the doors as well as the dash (not sure about that)

My ideal would be the Turismo with manual gearbox (& petals) or Competizione without the tan leather

Still doesn't seem to be any word on prices - even in Euro land
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hippo on December 03, 2011, 09:34:50 am
At least the girls are making the effort to smile.

I'm not convinced with the flock dash. Reminds me of 70's wallpaper. 
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on December 03, 2011, 09:41:04 am
I saw a post which suggested an Italian price of €26k (not sure which 595 version this price referred to) versus a price of €19k for a regular A500.

If the price is correct my calculations would translate to approx £20k here. But then we might have to factor in the rip off Britain factor.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: SJH on December 03, 2011, 11:31:00 am
At least the girls are making the effort to smile.

I'm not convinced with the flock dash. Reminds me of 70's wallpaper. 

I think the whole thing is pretty questionable..... ???
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on December 03, 2011, 11:41:40 am
But then we might have to factor in the rip off Britain factor.

Simon, The A500 is cheaper here (taking in various exchange rates) than anywhere in Europe.
Dont forget that the A500 has not had a price increae (except the VAT rise) since launch when the Fiat version has gone up almost £2000 in the same period.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on December 03, 2011, 05:35:11 pm
So are you expecting a straight £ to € pricing? (assuming there is any truth in the €26k figure)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on December 03, 2011, 06:10:53 pm
No, the other way around.
I doubt it will be anywhere near the £26K mark.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: nicebiscuit on December 03, 2011, 08:01:46 pm
Well I love it.   Ignoring what it will cost - that interior with the brown Sabelts is superb.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trigzzzzzzzzzzz on December 04, 2011, 10:00:18 pm
sounds like a gap fill between standard and 695, im happy with my launch addition still... bar a few tweeks need on it :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on January 07, 2012, 04:56:17 pm
Does this mean its going to happen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3lpXtRfqF8&feature=youtu.be

Still want this to come to the UK  8) could be my next car  :whistle:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on January 07, 2012, 05:06:02 pm
i thought we knew it was happening ;)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on January 07, 2012, 05:09:16 pm
We do know it's happening, hopefully more information on Thursday :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on January 07, 2012, 06:04:15 pm
Thursday  :o

Better start saving those pennies....and convincing the Mrs that those seats dont look sh*t  :-[
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Moots on January 07, 2012, 06:28:53 pm
I love that turismo, in grey and red it looks awesome. Won't be trading mine in any time soon though!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Paula on January 07, 2012, 07:37:02 pm
Abarth completely miss the point with another overpriced special?

Apparently new car sales last year were the worst since 1994.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on January 07, 2012, 07:40:57 pm
Abarth completely miss the point with another overpriced special?

Apparently new car sales last year were the worst since 1994.

Sorry Paula, I thought Abarth sold all their 695's. ??? Does that mean they were over priced or under priced?

Not sure the same logic can be applied to the 595 though, as for me its an SS in fancy clothes but I'm sure some people will buy it.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on January 07, 2012, 07:43:14 pm
its nice. look at the seats, people will buy it :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on January 07, 2012, 07:52:28 pm
Abarth completely miss the point with another overpriced special?

Apparently new car sales last year were the worst since 1994.

How can you say it's overpriced when you don't what the price is?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hippo on January 07, 2012, 08:10:32 pm
Abarth completely miss the point with another overpriced special?

Apparently new car sales last year were the worst since 1994.

Sorry Paula, I thought Abarth sold all their 695's. ??? Does that mean they were over priced or under priced?

Not sure the same logic can be applied to the 595 though, as for me its an SS in fancy clothes but I'm sure some people will buy it.

An SS in fancy clothes sounds great. I'm sure people who buy it will be as pleased with it as you are with yours.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Joe on January 07, 2012, 09:16:59 pm
It looks good. It will sell. I just don't understand why it has standard brakes and suspension...
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on January 07, 2012, 09:20:21 pm
Abarth completely miss the point with another overpriced special?

Apparently new car sales last year were the worst since 1994.

Sorry Paula, I thought Abarth sold all their 695's. ??? Does that mean they were over priced or under priced?

Not sure the same logic can be applied to the 595 though, as for me its an SS in fancy clothes but I'm sure some people will buy it.

An SS in fancy clothes sounds great. I'm sure people who buy it will be as pleased with it as you are with yours.

Thanks for the reassurance :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Krakn on January 07, 2012, 10:09:08 pm
I would buy the competizione if i had the cash. Or if anyone buys one and prefers plain black leather seats - i'll swap  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: DavidU on January 07, 2012, 11:51:44 pm
Abarth completely miss the point with another overpriced special?

Apparently new car sales last year were the worst since 1994.

How can you say it's overpriced when you don't what the price is?

Exactly!

I estimate a standard A500 made up to same spec as the Competiizione (SS, Koni, Brembos, Monza, Sabelts) would be around £23,000, but of course, it wouldn't have those very nice tan coloured Sabelts or badges, so how much of a premium will that be? In a nutshell if its over say £23,500 its a lot of money, but it would be the only way to get the badges and lovely seats! Shame they won't be adding the extra 20 horses, which would make it a definite upgrade for me.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on January 08, 2012, 12:46:22 am
If the 595 comes in at a reasonable price then i might buy one if it doesnt i wont  :wave:

even if it does have yellow brake callipers and sexy seats  :whistle:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on January 08, 2012, 12:10:47 pm
I'm with you there Troop  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Paula on January 08, 2012, 02:10:20 pm

Abarth completely miss the point with another overpriced special?

Apparently new car sales last year were the worst since 1994.

How can you say it's overpriced when you don't what the price

Well if it's over 20 grand then there's an awful lot of competition in the market, it's a cracking little car, but mostly because of what you get for your money. The 695 might have sold out, but a handful of cars isn't going to add much to Fiat's profit margin - they need to sell hods of something to really make money.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on January 08, 2012, 10:33:42 pm
Well if it's over 20 grand then there's an awful lot of competition in the market, it's a cracking little car, but mostly because of what you get for your money. The 695 might have sold out, but a handful of cars isn't going to add much to Fiat's profit margin - they need to sell hods of something to really make money.

Who is the most profitable car co in the World? I'll think you find that they don't make hods of anything ::)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Paula on January 10, 2012, 07:49:54 am
Well if it's over 20 grand then there's an awful lot of competition in the market, it's a cracking little car, but mostly because of what you get for your money. The 695 might have sold out, but a handful of cars isn't going to add much to Fiat's profit margin - they need to sell hods of something to really make money.

Who is the most profitable car co in the World? I'll think you find that they don't make hods of anything ::)

There's clearly a lot of mid life crises going on out there. I don't think the dolly bird will be as impressed with a Fiat ;) You've got a few years before you get there and word to the wise - hot chicks prefer ducatis :)

Paula
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: olig on January 10, 2012, 07:51:59 am
hot chicks prefer ducatis :)

 :whistle:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: SJH on January 10, 2012, 10:03:02 am
hot chicks prefer ducatis :)

 :whistle:
Well there is an element of truth here but hot chicks prefer THEIR OWN ducatis....  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GTMartin on January 10, 2012, 10:17:11 am
Whilst this could become an interesting debate, could you please get back on topic?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Paula on January 10, 2012, 06:01:41 pm
Ah don't know. When I was young (but lets be honest not that young) and t'interwebby was just starting out the whole point was to get as far of topic as you could manage.

Paula.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: AlexK on January 12, 2012, 04:11:40 pm
Order books for both 595 versions are expected to open during Quarter 2 of this year.

Prices are still to be confirmed, but noises are reassuringly realistic.

Although the release says the "turismo" comes with the (now confusingly-named) Competizione flappy-paddle gearbox, and the "competizione" with the five-speed manual, it appears that both models will have a choice of either transmission.  It appears there will also be a choice of either tin-top or 500C-style convertible for both models.

The various dashboard treatments (flocking in the turismo, and a metallic effect on the competizione) are said to be quite classy in the flesh, as is the natural leather-coloured alcantara of the competizione's Sabelts.

While the competizione features yellow calipers, they are apparently not the floating disc type.  The competizione will apparently be fitted with something called 'Compo' suspension - it's not clear exactly what this is; it's neither standard suspension, nor Konis, but somewhere between the two.  Hopefully more will follow later.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on January 12, 2012, 04:54:38 pm
So these will be in RHD  ??? unlike the other special editions? hope so  :thumb:

I guess no word on pricing yet though  :-\

Better start selling my organs  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on January 12, 2012, 07:59:18 pm
Definately available in RHD and not a special order like the 695 so will come with full UK back up (warranty etc)
Turismo "flocking" was suprising nice and the Competizione dash has a matt / metallic finish.
Both cars look great in the flesh :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Andrew on January 12, 2012, 08:01:58 pm
Any idea when prices will be announced?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on January 12, 2012, 08:05:14 pm
In the near future, sorry for being vague but I dont want to tell one price only to find out it's been changed later ::)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on January 12, 2012, 08:06:47 pm
No probs John would love to hear any more info on the 595 comp  :whistle:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on January 13, 2012, 12:02:14 pm
Some pictures from yesterday, sorry about the quality but they are from my phone and the lighting didn't help  ::)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on January 13, 2012, 12:02:53 pm
And the Turismo
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: rare on January 15, 2012, 10:23:19 am
I love the two tone colour so much!!!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Moots on January 15, 2012, 10:26:49 am
I love the two tone colour so much!!!

Same i'd quite happily trade my A500 for that, it looks awesome.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Krakn on January 28, 2012, 02:35:55 pm
"compo" suspension? Piece of string tied round the middle?  :whistle:

Want a tin top competizione  8)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on January 28, 2012, 05:55:49 pm
Dont know about the suspension (im guessing SS with different name) but ive looked at some close up photos of the Competizione
and the lovely yellow callipers are a slightly different design to mine  ???  ???

Cant wait for more info  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GTMartin on January 28, 2012, 06:21:47 pm
the lovely yellow callipers are a slightly different design to mine

I have just watched the video posted earlier and the yellow calipers look like the standard red ones sprayed yellow. Not the 4 pot calipers in the latest kit.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on January 28, 2012, 06:33:37 pm
I can't post the close up pic I've got of the new yellow caliper as its at home on my pc
but I've looked at it against a photo of my own and they are slightly different I know Alex mention they weren't floating discs  ??? Obviously they are not brembos , would look good on there though  8)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on January 28, 2012, 06:53:33 pm
You guys are quite right and I didn't notice, they are standard calipers sprayed yellow, not brembos.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on January 29, 2012, 03:57:03 pm
Some better pics from Bologna

Yellow callipers are slightly different design/shape than my standard ones (easier to see when zoomed in) also sporting SS style drilled discs

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/alfa4eva/Abarth-595-Competizione-Cerchi_horizontal_galleryzoomer.jpg)

Body coloured Handles and trim  8)

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/alfa4eva/Abarth-595-Competizione-Dettagli-e-logo_horizontal_galleryzoomer.jpg)

Flat stance suggests SS style springs but looks lower than mine with SS springs fitted  ???

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/alfa4eva/Abarth-595-Competizione-Il-profilo_horizontal_galleryzoomer.jpg)

Interior shot notice funky parcel shelf black numbers to gear knob (usually red) and body coloured seat backs  8)

(http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j32/alfa4eva/abarth-595-competizione-motor-show-2011_05.jpg)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: SJH on January 29, 2012, 03:59:55 pm
Nice from the outside, shame about the inside....
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on January 29, 2012, 04:01:14 pm
Fingers crossed they will release different colours  ;)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Andrew on January 29, 2012, 04:16:45 pm
Damn you for posting those pictures Trooper  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GTMartin on January 29, 2012, 04:45:02 pm
I thought the interior colours are typically italian and suits the car well :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on January 29, 2012, 04:49:19 pm
hope they don't do a yellow one, couldn't take the seatbacks :thumbd:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on January 29, 2012, 05:59:27 pm
I thought they'd have the Brembo Koni kit at the very least. The 595 is really all show and no go. A bit of an embarrassment IMHO :thumbd:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on January 29, 2012, 06:03:55 pm
Have to disagree its just an ss with added bits so its no show queen  :P
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on January 29, 2012, 06:24:23 pm
Have to disagree its just an ss with added bits so its no show queen  :P

And not even the best bits at that.  :'(
Although it looks quite nice, is it really true to what Abarth/595 is all about? :-\ It feels like a step back to the body kit 'Abarths' of the '90s/early '00s :thumbd: :thumbd:

Please, please STOP :'(
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on January 29, 2012, 06:32:28 pm
perhape 595 should be the base model Abarth, so

FIAT 500
Abarth 595
Abarth 695

with boot trim badge to match :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on January 29, 2012, 06:50:33 pm
perhape 595 should be the base model Abarth, so

FIAT 500
Abarth 595
Abarth 695

with boot trim badge to match :thumb:

Or replace the SS with the 595...
Or replace the 695 with the 595 and give the 695 the DQ treatment - but it's too late for that. What is clear is that there's no place for an SS and a 595 with the current configuration. It makes no sense :(
Either the Abarth guys never passed their O'Level marketing or they think we're mugs :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on January 29, 2012, 06:51:54 pm
View it as i do, its a Esseesse in different clothes which for some unknown reason Abarth have decided to give it another moniker  ??? Stretching the platform a little
thin imho, i agree it should have more power but i doubt Tributo owners like yourself would be pleased if it had sported a bigger turbo,180 ponies and realistic price tag   ;D

I do prefer the idea of a SS spec 500 without the idiotic idea of the kit in the crate, a unique selling point, yes, but what a complete waste of time, money and materials  ::)

Its all down to cost, if its cheaper than an Esseesse with equivalent options then they wont be able to build enough of them,if its more expensive
then i doubt we will see many at meets :-\

The pessimist in me thinks this is a special edition final hurrah before the mark2 comes along next year  :-X but if Abarth thinks its viable, they will make money from it, then lets hope
they make enough cash to get the promised roadster off the drawing board  8)

Body kit Abarth of the past? i dont care i still like it  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on January 29, 2012, 06:53:35 pm
they've definitely missed an opportunity for a nice and simple set of designations :thumbd:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on January 29, 2012, 06:56:04 pm
They have been doing it for years on Alfa's so at least they are consistent  :whistle:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on January 29, 2012, 07:49:12 pm
they've definitely missed an opportunity for a nice and simple set of designations :thumbd:

It's like when they restarted the brand, they had heritage amnesia. Pretty poor business really and an opportunity squandered.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on January 29, 2012, 07:55:33 pm
don't think they got it totally wrong, the white car/ red stripes theme worked really well, and even the crate business was a nice if quirky touch,

probably time to move on a bit now and make the SS the minimum standard :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Paula on January 29, 2012, 07:57:17 pm
Car makers always put out special editions before updating a car to lure a few punters in.

Paula
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Yordan on January 30, 2012, 10:10:37 am
probably time to move on a bit now and make the SS the minimum standard :thumb:

Well the amaricans got the multiair and 500 are solely sold as SS.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on January 31, 2012, 04:33:31 pm
I'm with you Trooper, I really like it  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: web_monkey on January 31, 2012, 08:46:26 pm
When I first read about this I was worried I'd missed out ordering mine instead of waiting. The 595 should of been a brembo koni kit with the unique interior and paint, to me it seems half hearted, more show than go. I imagine there's a cost factor in there somewhere but we won't know until they are released.

I like the 595 but if its more than mine was for less go I wouldn't consider it.

Apart from the repetitive use of 695 I loved my crate and the option to customise at the dealer. If everything becomes an ss there needs to be additional things available on top to continue that.

Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Moots on April 28, 2012, 03:38:26 pm
Any idea on pricing yet? i'm seriously considering having one of those 2 tone 595's
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on April 28, 2012, 03:58:48 pm
Not yet, be patient it wont be long now :wave:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Nadeem on April 28, 2012, 05:38:54 pm
How long is not too long?!  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Moots on April 28, 2012, 06:32:00 pm
Still too long!  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Nadeem on April 28, 2012, 07:16:35 pm
Tell me about it!  I'm still booking my test drive date for early June when in back from working in the hot box.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on April 28, 2012, 07:24:13 pm
Not long is as long as it takes  :getmecoat:
I would expect to have some news in the next couple of weeks.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Moots on May 03, 2012, 08:23:48 pm
Spoke to BM and they've said they'll keep me informed. Definitly want a half red/grey tourismo. It's awesome.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GOLDIE on June 05, 2012, 01:12:59 pm
Hi

June is here..... any news yet on prices??

I need one of those grey 595 ones!

Goldie
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Nadeem on June 05, 2012, 02:25:12 pm
I was at a dealer on Saturday.  No prices yet, but a good. Chance the 595's will appear at Goodwood, although in true Italian style, the statement was non-committal!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on June 05, 2012, 03:52:36 pm
They may well be at Goodwood but probably just the LHD display models that have been seen elsewhere.
Ordering is due to open soon (not committing on a time scale though)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GOLDIE on June 05, 2012, 05:09:10 pm
Anything around the 20k mark and I will be ordering a grey one
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on June 28, 2012, 07:41:19 pm
Update:
Whilst prices are not 100% set in stone yet, the info we received today is:
Turismo is starting around £16K and will include Xenons and Leather as standard
Competizione will start at around £18100 and will include Xenons, Cloth Sabelts, Koni Dampers and Monza exhaust.
The Alloy wheels on the press shots of the Competizione are not standard, the standard wheel will be the 5 spoke polished alloy currently available as an upgrade on the C.
Competizione and Turismo will be available in all 9 colour combinations but the new metallic Blue will be reserved for the base car.
In the convertible version of Turismo and Competizione you will now be able to have black paint.
Further details will follow when the product guide is complete and published.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Yordan on June 28, 2012, 07:59:03 pm
It looks like someone will be getting orders soon.  8)

I saw the competizione today  8) 8) 8) 8) I did spend some time in it and I liked it a lot (from near side wheel was kurbed). It is a lot of a car for the money.

I need to get it out of my head.  :-[
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jontell on June 28, 2012, 08:25:46 pm
Will the Semi auto box be any quicker than that in the current abarth C?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: retro on June 28, 2012, 09:11:36 pm
The comp wheels are different from the demo car? :( Boo! Still monza and konis is a nice surprise.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Exoticaholic on June 29, 2012, 08:57:09 am
Update:
Competizione will start at around £18100 and will include Xenons, Cloth Sabelts, Koni Dampers and Monza exhaust.
The Alloy wheels on the press shots of the Competizione are not standard, the standard wheel will be the 5 spoke polished alloy currently available as an upgrade on the C.

In the convertible version of Turismo and Competizione you will now be able to have black paint.


The specification sounds delicious. The SS alloys are vital to turn up the visual volume, but it sounds like it will be an extra £1600.

Black paint on the 595 Competizione C with Sabelts (ideally in leather), SS alloys, Konis and Monza ? Now I'm wet with excitement.

Now that is going to be my next car!!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: DanDey on June 29, 2012, 09:04:53 am
the one I saw yesterday I thought was FAB. Loving the de-chrome. Love the tan leather seabelts.
And with Konis aswell.
The subtle grey stripe on record grey paintwork looks very nice too. yellow callipers....

The seabelts are too high for me, my head is barely an inch of the roof, would need adjusting. plus I need to shed a few inches off my arse for a more comfy fit  ::)

so fitness training for a few months and I will be ready to have one  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: deano65 on June 29, 2012, 11:30:58 am
So there could be around 18k? 


What extra performance figures do they have? (sorry if i missed this in an earlier post)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Yordan on June 29, 2012, 11:32:40 am
Update:
Whilst prices are not 100% set in stone yet, the info we received today is:
Turismo is starting around £16K and will include Xenons and Leather as standard
Competizione will start at around £18100 and will include Xenons, Cloth Sabelts, Koni Dampers and Monza exhaust.
The Alloy wheels on the press shots of the Competizione are not standard, the standard wheel will be the 5 spoke polished alloy currently available as an upgrade on the C.
Competizione and Turismo will be available in all 9 colour combinations but the new metallic Blue will be reserved for the base car.
In the convertible version of Turismo and Competizione you will now be able to have black paint.
Further details will follow when the product guide is complete and published.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: olig on June 29, 2012, 11:33:18 am
When you picking yours up Andrew?  ::)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Yordan on June 29, 2012, 11:37:33 am
When you picking yours up Andrew?  ::)

Very soon by the look if it?  :whistle:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: deano65 on June 29, 2012, 11:38:43 am
Sorry I have now looked at the figures  :o    So its no faster than an esseesse....


It looks damn bloody good though!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Yordan on June 29, 2012, 11:41:25 am
Sorry I have now looked at the figures  :o    So its no faster than an esseesse....


It looks damn bloody good though!

It doesn't need to be faster than SS. The more power the more stress.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on June 29, 2012, 11:42:18 am
They look better than good I want one sooooo badly!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: olopboy on June 29, 2012, 11:53:18 am
Sorry I have now looked at the figures  :o    So its no faster than an esseesse....

But its cheaper than one, have a think about that  ;)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: DanDey on June 29, 2012, 04:38:35 pm
I agree with Chris, if you consider the BHP and the Konis instead of a SS kit on a NP Abarth with the extras it will work out better, then again there is less chrome  :whistle:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Binnypuss on June 29, 2012, 11:14:34 pm
I agree with Chris, if you consider the BHP and the Konis instead of a SS kit on a NP Abarth with the extras it will work out better, then again there is less chrome  :whistle:

Then again, it wouldnt be too difficult to retro fit the chrome bits if you wanted, just pop into your local Fiat dealer :whistle: :whistle:

And then flog the non chrome bits to someone whose got titanium SS wheels to match it all up ???
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on June 30, 2012, 07:59:59 am
I've been wondering what the dash finish is like on the 595. The pics don't really tell you too much.

Is the finish like the old crackle finish on MGB's, or is it a classy soft rubberised paint or is it like flock wall paper from a bad episode of changing rooms?

Or none of the above?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Exoticaholic on June 30, 2012, 08:36:58 am
I've been wondering what the dash finish is like on the 595. The pics don't really tell you too much.

Is the finish like the old crackle finish on MGB's, or is it a classy soft rubberised paint or is it like flock wall paper from a bad episode of changing rooms?

Or none of the above?


It is crackle finish, which is applied to the external door handles, bootlid plinth, front whiskers, upper intake and lower spoiler panel.

As a final touch to remind you of your 595, the Comp script is embroidered on the parcel shelf.

Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Stevetdci on June 30, 2012, 12:03:29 pm
that looks very nice :) i prefer it without the chrome
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Moots on June 30, 2012, 06:15:29 pm
hmmmm although the audi dealer is getting me an a1 in red, i haven't signed anything yet or paid a deposit, if these become available to order i may have to cancel .. . . .

the audi dealer couldn't do anything other than sulk could he?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Stevetdci on June 30, 2012, 06:19:11 pm
depends on what you mean by getting you an A1, if they are moving one over from another branch then you could possibly walk away, if on the other hand you have paperwork and paid a deposit then it would be difficult to walk away without a losing your deposit.

Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Andrew on June 30, 2012, 06:19:38 pm
They are available to order  :)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Moots on June 30, 2012, 06:33:29 pm
no i've not paid anything, and i've not signed anything either. they've got me one on order apparently which i thought was a bit strange as normally you pay a deposit. I also asked if he could delay it by 2 weeks until september for new registrations and he said the price might change, which has also made me think twice.

The a595 turismo would be cheaper than the A1 aswell.  ..
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: SJH on June 30, 2012, 07:15:08 pm
I think that all depends on whether you are happy to "order" before the exact spec is written in stone. Personally, I wouldn't unless "order" = "no cash and no obligation". In any event, why rush given the new reg? Price increase? Really? Doubt it. After all, why would there currently be a "discount" unless the spec is to change/options to improve.

I'd also see it first. It's great overall but some of the detail is a matter of personal taste.  :thumb:

E.g. The non-chrome bits which look a bit like powder coated chrome or the flock dash: Happy they are durable? ???
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Stevetdci on June 30, 2012, 08:43:07 pm
They probably have a stock order placed, I would guess that unless you put a deposit on it anyone could buy it. With regards to the flock effect on the dash, surely if it wears you either buy a new dash or just get it reflocked ?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: SJH on June 30, 2012, 08:58:22 pm
They probably have a stock order placed, I would guess that unless you put a deposit on it anyone could buy it. With regards to the flock effect on the dash, surely if it wears you either buy a new dash or just get it reflocked ?

Speaking personally, the first thing I'd order is a dash and door cards from an A500.... I.e. non-flocked.... :whistle:

But yes, just replace if they wear.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on June 30, 2012, 09:23:19 pm
i'd describe it as a textured coating rather than flock. to me flock sounds like a soft finish, this is rough and hard :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Exoticaholic on June 30, 2012, 09:27:31 pm
i'd describe it as a textured coating rather than flock. to me flock sounds like a soft finish, this is rough and hard :thumb:


Yes, crackle finish in the Comp (harder) and flocked finish in the Turismo (softer)

'there must be clear blue water between these two cars!'
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: SJH on June 30, 2012, 09:30:00 pm
I don't know if anyone has children who had Silvaynian Wood toys or similar but the interior is the stuff that they were coated in!

Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on June 30, 2012, 09:30:35 pm
The finish on the dash and other parts was very tactile   :thumb:

The thing that had always bugged me about the 500 is the fake chrome  :thumbd:

The 595 looks great    :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: SJH on June 30, 2012, 09:38:40 pm
The 595 looks great    :thumb:

I agree the exterior is great...... Assuming the actual car looks like that which it probably won't in it's standard form..... Hence, I'd wait. Shame if they water it down.  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on June 30, 2012, 09:46:28 pm
Abarths  RHD conversions have been known to change the spec slightly, eg, the AGP lost its body coloured dash and all RHD cars got the leather dash

the SS wheels look great but it seems they will come with 5 spokes

wait and see to be sure :thumb:
Title: Re: 95 reasons to chose the 595 over the 500
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on June 30, 2012, 10:47:49 pm
any prices confirmed for this little beauty?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: AlexK on July 01, 2012, 08:34:32 am
Final confirmation due by the end of next week.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: web_monkey on July 01, 2012, 08:43:01 am
Turismo doesn't do it for me but the comp does, looking at the pics and price I wanted one but after going out to mine it's going to be a watered down version  ;D and wouldn't feel as 'special'.

If however I'd not parted with the cash for mine the price would sway it for me, it does look like good value.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Moots on July 01, 2012, 11:19:12 am
Is the turismo only available with the flappy paddle gearbox? if so i'm oot :(
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: MadDogAbarth on July 01, 2012, 12:36:48 pm
So it seems as if you get SS power, konis, sabelts and monza with the competizione for £18100 (based on info from John501).  Surely that would cost nearer £20K if starting out with a standard A500?  If so, how are they able to do this?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: DavidU on July 01, 2012, 01:11:35 pm
By not putting on the standard bits that come off when the SS kit is fitted!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on July 01, 2012, 01:24:58 pm
Is the turismo only available with the flappy paddle gearbox? if so i'm oot :(
No, both boxes are available
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Moots on July 01, 2012, 01:45:47 pm
Is the turismo only available with the flappy paddle gearbox? if so i'm oot :(
No, both boxes are available

Dammit, now i have a really hard decision to make.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Moots on July 01, 2012, 10:30:36 pm
Is the brake set up the same as the standard A500's ? or have they changed them thus preventing any squealing?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on July 01, 2012, 11:04:55 pm
I didn't think 500's had a noise problem.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Ryder35 on July 02, 2012, 09:20:06 am
I wonder what the service schedule will be on these? 6K miles oil change seems crazy for an SS. What do the American Abarths with 160hp need?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Yordan on July 02, 2012, 09:28:54 am
This is a good point.  :thumb: Jonh501 may have the answer.

I'll bid on the 9k oil change. Then again it may have the SS service schedule as a replaicement for the ESSE ESSE ???
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: AlexK on July 02, 2012, 09:33:54 am
Just looked it up: the US 500s are on 8k oil changes.  MultiAir engine don't forget.

2012 Fiat 500 Abarth: Powertrain

Synthetic 5W-40 engine oil is recommended, due to higher overall temperatures with the turbocharger. And to maintain a lower ownership cost for the Fiat 500 Abarth, oil change intervals are set at 8,000 miles.

From the US press materials.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on July 02, 2012, 09:47:02 am
Mr 501 said tp me 6k oli service  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Kimusubi007 on July 02, 2012, 10:04:07 am
In australia it is standard to change oil and filter every 10K Kms which is about 6K miles
Over doing it do you think?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Yordan on July 02, 2012, 10:23:09 am
Mr 501 said tp me 6k oli service  :thumb:

Good old oli service  :whistle:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on July 02, 2012, 11:08:18 am
I am presuming that Esse Esse power means Esse Esse servicing.
That will be 6 months or 6000 miles. Cant be sure about that ATM but I'm sure it will become clear very soon.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GTMartin on July 02, 2012, 12:29:39 pm
Just called my insurance broker and with Aviva the Comp. is not put into a higher group. It's power listing is down as a 155bhp output.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GOLDIE on July 02, 2012, 04:32:38 pm
Hi

Anybody know what colours the 595 Comp will come in???

I am hearing whispers of Abu Dhabi blue in addition to the grey.....

Goldie
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on July 02, 2012, 04:37:27 pm
Im sure John will be along soon to say for sure, but i was told no blue for the 595  :thumbd:

I wanted a blue one  :-\

I was told bi-colours and Record grey are the only new additions for the 595, blue a possibility for standard A500
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on July 02, 2012, 04:58:31 pm
Current info is:
The names of the colours are changing and I cant remember what they were changing to but in old speak there will be:
Bosa Nova white
Campovola Grey
Red
Black
Funk White
Red over Grey
Grey over Grey
White over Grey
Record Grey

The new blue colour will be reserved for the base Abarth 500.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Richierich on July 02, 2012, 05:07:40 pm
 :thumb:Grey over grey oooohhhhhhh  :whistle:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GOLDIE on July 02, 2012, 05:22:43 pm
So,,,, if the 595 is available in all of these colours,, what colour do the Sabelts come with each?

I am now thinking  a black 595 Comp might look rather epic!

However if it has a brown interior, not so much
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on July 02, 2012, 05:27:48 pm
Again I'm sure John will be along to confirm, but I was told Brown,Black,Red,Grey  ;)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GOLDIE on July 02, 2012, 05:29:44 pm
Goodness me.... a black 595 Comp, with a black interior, yellow callipers.... I have a trouser tent!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on July 02, 2012, 06:57:20 pm
Again I'm sure John will be along to confirm, but I was told Brown,Black,Red,Grey  ;)

Spot on :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GOLDIE on July 02, 2012, 06:59:48 pm
So,,, can you select the interior colour you want, or are they set depending on the exterior colour?

Also can the calliper colours be changed??

Planning in over drive here....
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on July 02, 2012, 07:55:48 pm
Again I'm sure John will be along to confirm, but I was told Brown,Black,Red,Grey  ;)

Spot on :thumb:

Do these colour options refer to both cloth and leather?

(Grey metallic exterior with red cloth gets my vote)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on July 02, 2012, 08:41:37 pm
Calipers in red or yellow my friend!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on July 02, 2012, 09:32:13 pm
Calipers in red or yellow my friend!

With the seats in red that's a tricky one. Choices. Choices.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on July 02, 2012, 09:48:17 pm
red and yellow, noddy car :whistle:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on July 02, 2012, 10:40:03 pm
So,,, can you select the interior colour you want, or are they set depending on the exterior colour?

Also can the calliper colours be changed??

Planning in over drive here....

Sabelts only in the Comp, colour choices for the interior with the exterior colour to be confirmed.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on July 02, 2012, 10:40:46 pm
Again I'm sure John will be along to confirm, but I was told Brown,Black,Red,Grey  ;)

Spot on :thumb:

Do these colour options refer to both cloth and leather?

(Grey metallic exterior with red cloth gets my vote)

Dont know yet but hopefully very soon
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GOLDIE on July 02, 2012, 10:41:13 pm
If somebody told me the stitching on the black Sabelts was yellow.... I think I would explode
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on July 02, 2012, 10:42:27 pm
Dont know about that yet Goldie, hopefully confirmation this week.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GOLDIE on July 02, 2012, 11:11:15 pm
Just about everything crossed,,,, 595 stitched in to black headrests in yellow would be out of this world.

I am guessing grey or red is more likely.

Here's hoping
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on July 02, 2012, 11:16:21 pm
I think it's unlikely but who knows.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on July 03, 2012, 01:00:49 am
I'm sure if you ordered the car from John he could hand stitch the 595 in yellow for you :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GOLDIE on July 03, 2012, 07:26:26 am
Yeah, past evidence suggests red stitching on black....

I don't fancy red callipers is all, and mixing up red and yellow wouldnt look right.

We shall see,, when is the dealer launch?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on July 03, 2012, 08:02:07 am
Still to be confirmed.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on July 03, 2012, 08:18:40 am
... and will a dog crate fit behind a Sabelt and will the Sabelt tip forward enough to open the door of the crate?



The sooner they arrive in the showroom the better - any idea of eta?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GOLDIE on July 03, 2012, 09:15:19 am
Get a smaller dog.....
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Ryder35 on July 03, 2012, 09:19:30 am
Get a smaller dog.....

Is that even possible, my cat is bigger than that!

Cute dog though!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: SJH on July 03, 2012, 09:37:10 am
... and will a dog crate fit behind a Sabelt and will the Sabelt tip forward enough to open the door of the crate?



The sooner they arrive in the showroom the better - any idea of eta?

Possibly and no I would guess. You reduce your room behind the seat quite a bit but the thing you really diminish is the gap when the seat is tipped forwards - that is unless the 595 sabelts have shrunk.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on July 03, 2012, 11:13:37 am
Maybe if I flip the backrest down and set the crate on that. By doing so the crate would be further back giving more clearance and I'd get to hear the Monza better.

There has got to be a way
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GOLDIE on July 03, 2012, 12:05:54 pm
Leave Fido at home?? (it's what I do with the children!)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Gingerdog on July 03, 2012, 12:53:58 pm
If its got split rear seats you could put one side down maybe
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Moots on July 05, 2012, 09:43:46 pm
Still nae update on prices?

oh and john i was referring to the rear brakes squealing when reversing, happens to a lot of people. Thought it was a known issue
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cyberdog on July 05, 2012, 09:55:48 pm
Maybe if I flip the backrest down and set the crate on that. By doing so the crate would be further back giving more clearance and I'd get to hear the Monza better.

There has got to be a way

This is how mine rolls  8)

(http://i855.photobucket.com/albums/ab120/cyberdog500/aecb7104.jpg)

Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on July 05, 2012, 10:24:28 pm
Still nae update on prices?

oh and john i was referring to the rear brakes squealing when reversing, happens to a lot of people. Thought it was a known issue

Prices have been mentioned further back in the thread  :thumb:

Rear brakes seem to be more a problem on np 500;s
The 595 uses ss style discs so should be ok  :)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: corsa on July 05, 2012, 10:29:02 pm
The 595 uses ss style discs so should be ok  :)

Is this confirmed yet?
There was some Abarth paperwork I have seen somewhere that suggested different, if I am not mistaken...
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on July 05, 2012, 10:31:37 pm
The demo at Goodwood had them and John told me the same  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on July 05, 2012, 10:45:16 pm
The italian product guide I viewed at Goodwood suggested that the drilled Esse Esse brakes would be standard on the Competizione.
Those things should not be taken as gospel but give a pretty good idea.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Moots on July 06, 2012, 07:38:18 pm
Spoke to BM, they reckoned that the turismo would be just short of 18k and the comp would be just shy of 19k
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: JKDesign80 on August 09, 2012, 09:58:38 pm
Some actual pics from Germany and Italy...

Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: JKDesign80 on August 09, 2012, 10:01:11 pm
Few more...
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GTMartin on August 09, 2012, 10:04:52 pm
The Competizione looks as if it still had chrome bits, or was it specced that way?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: JKDesign80 on August 09, 2012, 10:15:55 pm
Not sure, the one in the showroom is from Italy, the one outside is from Germany.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on August 09, 2012, 11:21:14 pm
Er no dark trim? .... I'm not happy, thought this had been confirmed :(
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on August 10, 2012, 08:16:57 am
If it comes with chrome that's fine by me. Wasn't really taken with the gunmetal colour. I think the chrome looks classy and less chavvy Corsa.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on August 10, 2012, 09:57:33 am
Er no dark trim? .... I'm not happy, thought this had been confirmed :(

Different countries have different standard specs.
The current info suggests we are getting the dark handles but as always I will wait to see one in the flesh.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on August 10, 2012, 06:56:38 pm
Well I've taken the plunge and put a deposit down and specced a 595 comp  :)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on August 10, 2012, 06:57:33 pm
Has anyone else. Turismo or comp?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on August 10, 2012, 08:03:17 pm
I think I may have ordered a comp today  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GTMartin on August 10, 2012, 08:12:00 pm
What spec might you have ordered Cliff?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on August 10, 2012, 08:17:02 pm
It might be grey with yellow stoppers and brown leather chairs and wheels to be decided at a later date.  8)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on August 10, 2012, 08:28:09 pm
It might be grey with yellow stoppers and brown leather chairs and wheels to be decided at a later date.  8)
That sounds nice! I've gone for bicolore grey / red with red leather sabelts and sky dome sunroof :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on August 10, 2012, 08:35:29 pm
That also sounds nice, I was in two minds about the sky dome. I have one now but want to use a roof rack!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on August 10, 2012, 09:00:07 pm
Cliff... Has your dealer given you a rough delivery date? Mine said 8 weeks then 10 then 12!!!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on August 10, 2012, 09:07:52 pm
 No date mate! When it gets here I guess  ???
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on August 10, 2012, 09:21:04 pm
Yep.. I guess you're right!  Knowing abarth it could be anytime from here to eternity! ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on August 10, 2012, 09:51:51 pm
Ordered my comp at Goodwood  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on August 11, 2012, 10:52:06 am
As well as gunmetal trim the Italian Comp's seem to miss out on the Monza

Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on August 11, 2012, 02:43:33 pm
German 595 Turismo
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on August 11, 2012, 02:44:42 pm
Final 3 Turismo pics
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on August 11, 2012, 03:36:20 pm
european specs are different especialy the italian specs.they seem to add less and charge more compared to the uk market.I think in the uk we get a really good deal on cars imho.Better specs,better made i think and better prices. My dad looked at  new panda in italy and the sales man couldnt believe a a500 tin top is around 15k in the uk.In italy its around starting 19.000 euros and then the extra! :o
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Aff on August 11, 2012, 07:01:38 pm
what colour was that german 595?  is it black in the image?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on August 12, 2012, 01:13:29 pm
Ordered my comp at Goodwood  ;D
Excellent!  :thumb:What colour and spec have you gone for?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on August 12, 2012, 04:47:21 pm
The standard cloth 595 Sabelts look good with the 595 logo but it's a real shame they didn't redo the back seats to match in some way. It makes the Sabelts look a bit aftermarket. Oh well at least my dark grey nylon back seat covers & dog crate will hide the red stripes.  :thumb:

Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on August 15, 2012, 03:41:47 pm
I called in to Wessex Bristol, as I was passing, to see if there was any sign of the 595's. Described by the salesman as new "Special Edition" models he said that the showroom cars/dealer stock were expected sometime in September with the first customer cars sometime in November.

There was one of the new 500's sitting outside in poverty spec. I must say it seems a bit iffy saying that the cars are better equipped but £500 cheaper when they have removed the front fog lights, interscope stereo and dark tinted rear windows - to name but three items. I know it has gained parking sensors but overall it seems to be negative in terms of equipment. I'm sure the ASA might also disagree with the "better value" claims.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on August 15, 2012, 04:35:20 pm
The missing front fogs are a mis-build on the initial launch stock, the standard cars will have them fitted.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on August 15, 2012, 06:21:34 pm
The stripped out look reminded me a bit of the 205 & 106 Rallye's - a pair of cars with a real cult following. All it needed was a set of 70's style steel wheels.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: PowerJon on August 15, 2012, 06:59:24 pm
What!? No foggies?? I will not be happy if mine turns up without the foggies!?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on August 15, 2012, 07:12:02 pm
We are told that it's only the launch cars and anything built after the factory re-opens will have fog lights.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on August 15, 2012, 07:35:04 pm
What!? No foggies?? I will not be happy if mine turns up without the foggies!?

If it does it won't even have blanked out holes - there's not a trace of where they would have been.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Nadeem on August 15, 2012, 07:49:52 pm
I don't think an A595c is any different price wise spec for spec than my A500c SS.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jontell on August 15, 2012, 08:40:06 pm
I called in to Wessex Bristol, as I was passing, to see if there was any sign of the 595's. Described by the salesman as new "Special Edition" models he said that the showroom cars/dealer stock were expected sometime in September with the first customer cars sometime in November.

There was one of the new 500's sitting outside in poverty spec. I must say it seems a bit iffy saying that the cars are better equipped but £500 cheaper when they have removed the front fog lights, interscope stereo and dark tinted rear windows - to name but three items. I know it has gained parking sensors but overall it seems to be negative in terms of equipment. I'm sure the ASA might also disagree with the "better value" claims.

Thats the on I test drove the other week. They also told me about the 'special editions'
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on August 16, 2012, 11:24:38 am
For those who haven't seen a Series 1 yet, a walk around video can be found here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20UNQolMEKk

Please note:
As discussed earlier in this thread, the featured car does not have front fog lights. This is confirmed as a mis-build and later production cars will have them as standard.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on August 16, 2012, 11:55:58 am
The lack of the fogs and those 16's really make me feel queezy :puke:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on August 16, 2012, 12:38:45 pm
It don't look that bad!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on August 16, 2012, 12:47:50 pm
It don't look that bad!

I beg to differ :thumbd:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: olopboy on August 16, 2012, 01:06:08 pm
looks like some kind of 'eco' model  :yawn:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Yordan on August 16, 2012, 03:11:51 pm
The parking sensors on such small car are must!   :D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on August 16, 2012, 04:03:28 pm
Couldn't agree more with the last two posts. Bit of brand dilution if you ask me.

Looks cheap, a bit nasty and pointless. What part of Abarth's target demographic requires parking sensors on a car of this size?  :'(
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on August 16, 2012, 05:12:22 pm
You have parking sensors  :hide:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Yordan on August 16, 2012, 06:05:53 pm
I was being sarcastic.  :D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: olopboy on August 16, 2012, 07:07:25 pm
They make perfect sense on the C once you realise you can't see out the back with the roof down but I can't see the point on the tin top. If they wanted to strip it the AC should have become optional and strip the hifi out but keep the red brakes. Less weight less money but still cool looking  ;D

Also they could have made more money form people adding stuff back rather than having odd items like sensors and dipping mirrors that I would suspect most people would rather not have if they were optional. The car industry has some love affair for parking sensors atm, VW now bundles them with cruise control, seriously why? I can't see the link between constant speed and parking  ???

Dang this probably should have been in the grump thread...
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Exoticaholic on August 17, 2012, 03:02:24 pm
You have parking sensors  :hide:


The most USELESS accessory on my 500c. Ever.  :P
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Dan on August 17, 2012, 03:09:37 pm
You have parking sensors  :hide:


The most USELESS accessory on my 500c. Ever.  :P

nice one ED - I do use mine especially on the A500C the back window is pretty useless
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Exoticaholic on August 17, 2012, 03:16:28 pm
You have parking sensors  :hide:


The most USELESS accessory on my 500c. Ever.  :P

nice one ED - I do use mine especially on the A500C the back window is pretty useless


Well, I am deaf so I can't hear the bleeping. I would have preferred 'traffic lights' warning lights on the Alfa Romeo Mito in lieu of it.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Dan on August 17, 2012, 03:19:31 pm
what about a reverse camera? they could introduce a touch screen radio and the screen could change when reversing. or is that taking it too far now  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Exoticaholic on August 17, 2012, 03:22:58 pm
what about a reverse camera? they could introduce a touch screen radio and the screen could change when reversing. or is that taking it too far now  ;D


Without wanting to knock this thread off-track, that is a seriously cool idea. I would love one on my A500c.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: rui on August 20, 2012, 10:33:25 pm
Does the UK 595 comp have intrascope? or can it not be fitted with the seats?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on August 21, 2012, 07:59:52 am
Interscope isn't standard but can be specced on the Turismo.
It can't be specced on the Competizione because of the Sabelt seats.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: pigmy on August 21, 2012, 08:18:58 pm
Ed, Tania said "have sound unplugged and see if LED's could be used instead?"  (As she said the hearing impaired have flashing door bells) ;)
Carl and Tania
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: PGTips on August 22, 2012, 12:32:33 pm
What is the spec of the standard hifi on the Competizione.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on August 22, 2012, 01:20:02 pm
The system is exactly the same as the Interscope one, it's just missing the sub under the seat.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Aff on August 22, 2012, 08:20:25 pm
The system is exactly the same as the Interscope one, it's just missing the sub under the seat.

is there any way to fit an after market sub somewhere?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Aff on August 24, 2012, 03:20:16 pm
Have had my NP 3 year service and enquired on the 595 who I was told orders are 'flying through the roof' ::)

Maybe so but I'm yet to be able to configure one exactly how I want it without the price soaring.

Also I really do not like the wheel choices.  Imo the esseesse wheels are best suited as in the original promo campaign.

This is not an option but can be bought aftermarket for £1680.00.  Great, two sets of wheels...

I'm simply going to have to wait until the end of September when she said they're due and see if I do some emotional buying ;)

In the meantime I ponder still about just upgrading my NP with remap, konis and monza and being credit free for the foreseeable future.

Abarth have certainly created a tricky upgrade choice for those already with one.  I think it would be nigh on impossible to decide if you had an esseesse.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: DavidU on August 24, 2012, 06:38:47 pm
Have had my NP 3 year service and enquired on the 595 who I was told orders are 'flying through the roof' ::)

Maybe so but I'm yet to be able to configure one exactly how I want it without the price soaring.

Also I really do not like the wheel choices.  Imo the esseesse wheels are best suited as in the original promo campaign.

This is not an option but can be bought aftermarket for £1680.00.  Great, two sets of wheels...

I'm simply going to have to wait until the end of September when she said they're due and see if I do some emotional buying ;)

In the meantime I ponder still about just upgrading my NP with remap, konis and monza and being credit free for the foreseeable future.

Abarth have certainly created a tricky upgrade choice for those already with one.  I think it would be nigh on impossible to decide if you had an esseesse.

As an SS owner considering the change it doesn't make sense but I'm considering it! The only justification I can cling to is that I'm looking at a 595 c competzione which with the options of leather Sabelts,metallic, alloy gear knob, yellow calipers comes to nearly £22500! So the upgrade is very expensive,p as I reckon second hand values have taken a massive hit as a result of the 50:50 deal. The sensible buyer will wait for the pre reg and nearly new 595's in a year so or buy a nearly new SSe at a massive saving on new.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: DavidU on August 24, 2012, 06:43:05 pm
Have had my NP 3 year service and enquired on the 595 who I was told orders are 'flying through the roof' ::)

Maybe so but I'm yet to be able to configure one exactly how I want it without the price soaring.

Also I really do not like the wheel choices.  Imo the esseesse wheels are best suited as in the original promo campaign.

This is not an option but can be bought aftermarket for £1680.00.  Great, two sets of wheels...

I'm simply going to have to wait until the end of September when she said they're due and see if I do some emotional buying ;)

In the meantime I ponder still about just upgrading my NP with remap, konis and monza and being credit free for the foreseeable future.

Abarth have certainly created a tricky upgrade choice for those already with one.  I think it would be nigh on impossible to decide if you had an esseesse.

As an SS owner considering the change it doesn't make sense but I'm considering it! The only justification I can cling to is that I'm looking at a 595 c competzione which with the options of leather Sabelts,metallic, alloy gear knob, yellow calipers comes to nearly £22500! So the upgrade is very expensive,p as I reckon second hand values have taken a massive hit as a result of the 50:50 deal. The sensible buyer will wait for the pre reg and nearly new 595's in a year so or buy a nearly new SSe at a massive saving on new.
Sorry typos and grammar are a result of using an iPad!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Aff on August 24, 2012, 07:14:41 pm
Have had my NP 3 year service and enquired on the 595 who I was told orders are 'flying through the roof' ::)

Maybe so but I'm yet to be able to configure one exactly how I want it without the price soaring.

Also I really do not like the wheel choices.  Imo the esseesse wheels are best suited as in the original promo campaign.

This is not an option but can be bought aftermarket for £1680.00.  Great, two sets of wheels...

I'm simply going to have to wait until the end of September when she said they're due and see if I do some emotional buying ;)

In the meantime I ponder still about just upgrading my NP with remap, konis and monza and being credit free for the foreseeable future.

Abarth have certainly created a tricky upgrade choice for those already with one.  I think it would be nigh on impossible to decide if you had an esseesse.

As an SS owner considering the change it doesn't make sense but I'm considering it!

i really don't have an excuse then.  actually i considered the 595c comp too but boot hole is very small (yes i use it often) and also the price is approaching other interesting items.  the brz/gt86 being one of many.  sat in one today, quite a way down to sit when you've been up in the clouds for a few years  :)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: assadahmed319 on August 24, 2012, 10:40:05 pm
Have had my NP 3 year service and enquired on the 595 who I was told orders are 'flying through the roof' ::)

Maybe so but I'm yet to be able to configure one exactly how I want it without the price soaring.

Also I really do not like the wheel choices.  Imo the esseesse wheels are best suited as in the original promo campaign.

This is not an option but can be bought aftermarket for £1680.00.  Great, two sets of wheels...

I'm simply going to have to wait until the end of September when she said they're due and see if I do some emotional buying ;)

In the meantime I ponder still about just upgrading my NP with remap, konis and monza and being credit free for the foreseeable future.

Abarth have certainly created a tricky upgrade choice for those already with one.  I think it would be nigh on impossible to decide if you had an esseesse.

As an SS owner considering the change it doesn't make sense but I'm considering it!

i really don't have an excuse then.  actually i considered the 595c comp too but boot hole is very small (yes i use it often) and also the price is approaching other interesting items.  the brz/gt86 being one of many.  sat in one today, quite a way down to sit when you've been up in the clouds for a few years  :)

Tell me about it! Sitting in a sports car feels strange after driving the Abarth for a while!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Aff on August 28, 2012, 02:26:03 pm
I've been advised with the sabelts on the 595 comes a smaller subwoofer.  Also there is an upgrade to the music system which is an option at £155.00.

Can anyone confirm what this is as I thought interscope or any upgrade wasn't available?

Thanks

Aff
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on August 28, 2012, 03:11:09 pm
That is partially right.
you can spec interscope on a Turismo but it's £266.
You cannot spec interscope on a Competizione and the factory dont have any slim line subs.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Aff on August 28, 2012, 06:53:08 pm
But looking back in the threads it appears there was a slimline sub.  Has it been discontinued and if so, can a third party sub be installed ie. is the cabling there?

Is interscope the speaker system as well?  Just trying to work out what constitutes interscope and what the comp actually has.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on August 28, 2012, 07:00:07 pm
I have to admit that my A500 has interscope and I've never EVER listened to any music/radio in the car ..... I have a Monza  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Aff on August 28, 2012, 07:06:15 pm
I have to admit that my A500 has interscope and I've never EVER listened to any music/radio in the car ..... I have a Monza  :thumb:

this is a good point which i knew would be raised ;D  never having a monza i have a feeling the two don't mix too well and it won't matter after all.  i'm really trying to convince myself i 'need' a 595.  never had or sat in sabelts before either :-\
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Scorpion on August 28, 2012, 07:59:02 pm
I think the black plastic dash is a let down in the 595 .... Part of my enjoyment is the body coloured dash on my Funk White 500 esseesse ..... Any views on this ....?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on August 28, 2012, 08:02:16 pm
If the finished item is the same as the one on show at Goodwood then its a very nice tactile texture that does look and feel very classy  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Scorpion on August 28, 2012, 10:21:40 pm
If the finished item is the same as the one on show at Goodwood then its a very nice tactile texture that does look and feel very classy  :thumb:

 8) ....  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on August 29, 2012, 09:07:08 am
Just at Glyn Hopkin and have been told you can have the interscope with the sub on the comp??? Can you? Can't you?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on August 29, 2012, 09:25:00 am
No, you can't.
I have no idea where they get that idea from, there has been no information published that would suggest that the product guide has been updated and I've just had it verbally confirmed again.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on August 29, 2012, 09:41:16 am
John, I've just been told all sorts of things  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on August 29, 2012, 09:43:32 am
Are they carried from the factory on red velvet pillows?  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: olopboy on August 29, 2012, 09:46:46 am
Are we going to see a return of the built in Poland as a standard 1.4 Sport and then shipped to Turin to be stripped and re-built rumour? I loved that one.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on August 29, 2012, 09:48:47 am
 ;D
No we are not  :bat:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on August 29, 2012, 09:51:48 am
Yes they are! She said they were very special velvet pillows and carried at head height by real Italian dwarfs ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Aff on August 29, 2012, 10:20:02 am
John, I've just been told all sorts of things  ;D

same ::)

I must admit without a 595 configurator it's very difficult to choose exactly how you want your car to look.  I'm now thinking a Red/Grey Turismo with different wheels.  Or a comp but what colour sabelts and what colour is the stitching.  I want to try things out :-\

I'm loath to pre-order like 'a dealer' wants me to when the information on spec/style is conflicting or maybe just plain wrong.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on August 29, 2012, 10:26:43 am
John, I've just been told all sorts of things  ;D

same ::)

I must admit without a 595 configurator it's very difficult to choose exactly how you want your car to look.  I'm now thinking a Red/Grey Turismo with different wheels.  Or a comp but what colour sabelts and what colour is the stitching.  I want to try things out :-\

I'm loath to pre-order like 'a dealer' wants me to when the information on spec/style is conflicting or maybe just plain wrong.

Use the force young Jedi.... I got my last Abarth from Glyn hopkin and won't be getting my New one from there!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on August 29, 2012, 11:44:18 am
I think the black plastic dash is a let down in the 595 .... Part of my enjoyment is the body coloured dash on my Funk White 500 esseesse ..... Any views on this ....?

Not having seen the gunmetal grey dash in the flesh (though I did see a dark blue 500 Twinair with a metallic grey dash) I think I'm with you on this. The body colour dash is a feature which works really well. I like my red dash and would probably want to keep it.

As an aside the Twinair also had satin grey door handles and boot handle - I had a quick feel and it felt like cheap painted plastic. I hope the Comp isn't so afflicted.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: rui on August 29, 2012, 11:34:28 pm
I think the black plastic dash is a let down in the 595 .... Part of my enjoyment is the body coloured dash on my Funk White 500 esseesse ..... Any views on this ....?
Changing the dash is a 10 min job, I have 3 of them and swap them over for a change now and again. You can pick them up on ebay for £20 now and again.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Aff on August 30, 2012, 09:39:32 am
Can anyone give me some advice on the sabelts?  are they similar to recaros which a young girl has on her vauxhall vxr here?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on August 30, 2012, 09:55:05 am
The only advice is to find a pair to sit in.
They are different to most seats I have ever had.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: grimwau on August 30, 2012, 12:51:12 pm
Changing the dash is a 10 min job, I have 3 of them and swap them over for a change now and again. You can pick them up on ebay for £20 now and again.

Ian, I like the Gucci style one you have on the car at the moment and I also like the black edging mod you did on your rear lights.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: rui on August 30, 2012, 03:28:00 pm
Changing the dash is a 10 min job, I have 3 of them and swap them over for a change now and again. You can pick them up on ebay for £20 now and again.

Ian, I like the Gucci style one you have on the car at the moment and I also like the black edging mod you did on your rear lights.
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8318/7889286876_124f520f3a_c.jpg)

The matt back rubberised look makes me feel like I am driving the batmobile not a Polish city car.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on August 31, 2012, 06:27:39 pm
Does any one know when the 595 demos will be in the showrooms ?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on August 31, 2012, 06:58:58 pm
I saw a couple of pics of a right hand drive 595 Competizione at the Children in Need Carfest - like all of the EU cars that are popping up there was no sign of a Monza exhaust  ???

Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: JKDesign80 on August 31, 2012, 07:11:08 pm
Chrome mirrors! How racy, really fitting to the name.

No contrast in colour on the plastic parts looks odd as well...
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on August 31, 2012, 07:35:41 pm
Yep I saw those pics to.. No monza or darkened door handles etc. also on the Turismo c pics it had a red dash and I thought they were supposed to be the crackle effect??!! Let's hope they are not full uk spec or my order will Be cancelled! :-\
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on August 31, 2012, 07:45:53 pm
None of the EU spec Turismos which are currently on the market have a crackle dash. All are body colour.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Aff on August 31, 2012, 07:47:18 pm
i'm having a hell of a time speccing a 595.  info is conflicting and nearest dealer told me that they are speccing turismos as comps because customers are giving 'negative feedback' to the sabelts.  i also can't test drive their sabelt equipped 595 comp when it arrives but can sit in it (i need to try sabelts) - can test drive a turismo though - without sabelts ??? :(

what's everyone ordered?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on August 31, 2012, 07:52:41 pm
Mmmmm. That's not what the blurb says! However I've got a comp on order so will contact my dealer to clarify unless John 501 can enlighten us ??!!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on August 31, 2012, 08:06:47 pm
Do you know what the 'negative feedback' is regarding the sabelts? I tried them and they are different to the standards seats. Now wondering if I should change to a turismo( my order hasn't gone in yet due to problems with the ordering system... Still!)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Aff on August 31, 2012, 08:11:03 pm
it's difficult to know if it was a sales technique but i think they were implying that customers wanted comp spec but not the sabelts due to comfort issues.  i've never sat in them but love the thought of them so am going to try them out first.  but they can't offer me a driving demo in them ::)

oh well, sept 10th apparently dealers are getting them.  as soon as they're in i'm at the dealers - whichever one it is.

record grey or red/grey bi-colour comp is the decision to make.  mean or happy, i just don't know who i want to be ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on August 31, 2012, 08:28:32 pm
Sept 10 think I will be going to a dealer to. Sticking with grey/red bicolour after toying with record grey as well ! Comp or Turismo? But I want the monza! I want everything!!! ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Aff on August 31, 2012, 08:46:34 pm
Sept 10 think I will be going to a dealer to. Sticking with grey/red bicolour after toying with record grey as well ! Comp or Turismo? But I want the monza! I want everything!!! ;D

thank the heavens, i thought it was just me going round in circles on the (very non-visual) configurator :D  it's all hinging on sabelts for me.  oh and colour, aargh..
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on August 31, 2012, 09:25:50 pm
Sept 10 think I will be going to a dealer to. Sticking with grey/red bicolour after toying with record grey as well ! Comp or Turismo? But I want the monza! I want everything!!! ;D

thank the heavens, i thought it was just me going round in circles on the (very non-visual) configurator :D  it's all hinging on sabelts for me.  oh and colour, aargh..
Me to. Red sabelts I've ordered but like you will try them out again when the demos arrive.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GOLDIE on September 01, 2012, 10:58:26 pm
Lordy me.... So, now the Monza has gone the same way as the wheels, and next to get knocked off are the seats!

And how much are these supposed to be?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 02, 2012, 05:30:39 am
I think you may have mis read Goldie, the Monza is still standard on the Competizione.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on September 02, 2012, 09:22:28 am
If that is the case it is completely mad for Abarth UK to be putting a Competizione on display at car shows with the regular exhaust. Come to that they are still showing images of a 595 on their website with SS wheels and yellow calipers.

If Monzas eventually do end up on the 595 Comp it wouldn't surprise me if dealers have to retro fit them here in the UK.

The launch of the 595 seems to have been as long, tortuous and disorganised as it was at the UK launch of the 500 Abarth. A proper configurator for the 595 still isn't available - how hard is that in this day and age?

In the case of the original 500 it was just under seven months before I finally received my car after paying the deposit.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Aff on September 02, 2012, 12:21:39 pm
Vospers have a decent configurator which I've played to death with, thanks John :thumb:  No visual aid though from Abarth.  I don't think there's any doubt the comp will come with a monza, it's never been mentioned that it won't.

But yes, the ss wheels is deceptive on shots.  the new abarth catalogue i received friday does show the correct wheels though (5 spokes).  but you can have any wheels for nominal fee.

i'm settled on 595 record grey comp with sabelts.  if the sabelts are too hard i'll get a cushion ;D

i've always thought there should be a 'comfort cover' for sabelts so on a long journey (say to the ring) just plop it on over the seats if you start getting sore.  bit like padded bike pants or gel seat cover :D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GTMartin on September 02, 2012, 01:22:55 pm
but you can have any wheels for a nominal fee

I do not think the SS wheels will be available for a nominal fee, the petals and 10 spokes I agree. I hope I am wrong
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jimmyl on September 02, 2012, 07:23:07 pm

If Monzas eventually do end up on the 595 Comp it wouldn't surprise me if dealers have to retro fit them here in the UK.

The Monza will be fitted by dealers in UK along with an ecu re-flash and fit the mats!  :)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Aff on September 02, 2012, 07:31:19 pm
but you can have any wheels for a nominal fee

I do not think the SS wheels will be available for a nominal fee, the petals and 10 spokes I agree. I hope I am wrong

oh yeah, sorry you're right.  i had a bit of a to do about the ss wheels.  touching £1700.00 for a set, should have been an option like the original ads
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on September 02, 2012, 08:23:58 pm
So is the UK getting its own ecu setting? What's that all about?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on September 02, 2012, 08:30:21 pm
sounds like it gets SS'ed when it gets here :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on September 02, 2012, 09:43:44 pm
According to the info I have it's ssd in the factory but the door sills , mats etc and the ecu to upgrade to the 160bhp are sent separately to the dealer and are done at the dealership. Don't about the monza though if that's fitted at factory or dealer.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 02, 2012, 10:55:03 pm
Monza will be fitted at your Dealer.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GTMartin on September 03, 2012, 08:23:54 am
Does that mean that the original will be a take off part to take home?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on September 03, 2012, 08:35:12 am
Only the Italians.

It's like buying a kit car.  ::)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: rui on September 03, 2012, 11:15:56 am
All of this is putting me off buying one. The dealer I have used  struggle blowing their own nose. Why can't we have the factory build the car at a standard thats manageable and not at a dealers where the trainee will have a go at doing it before they get a kfc lunch.

Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: hot_fiat on September 03, 2012, 11:22:16 am
Suspect the ECU and monza are done at the dealer to get around homologation under EC emissions regs. It has to come out of the factory with the possibility that anyone in the EEA can buy it. The Swiss & Austrians would have a fit if it was shipped with a monza. Overrun emissions are probably terrible with an esseesse ecu.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jimmyl on September 03, 2012, 01:10:10 pm
Suspect the ECU and monza are done at the dealer to get around homologation under EC emissions regs. It has to come out of the factory with the possibility that anyone in the EEA can buy it. The Swiss & Austrians would have a fit if it was shipped with a monza. Overrun emissions are probably terrible with an esseesse ecu.

Spot on, lots of manufactures do it, just not so obviously as Abarth.   :whistle:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on September 03, 2012, 01:32:58 pm
I'm hoping this is all idle speculation, I've never heard of a "production" model (eg the 595 Competizione) being modded at the dealer before being handed over to the customer.

If however all of this is correct, does this mean the car is going to have to go through the same two stage DVLA registration process as the SS, in this case registered first as a 500 and then converted to being a 595?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: sandys on September 03, 2012, 02:23:05 pm
A lot of cars get modded at the docks in the UK before being handed to the customers so it wouldn't surprise me if its now being done at the dealers, my brother in law has been doing this car customisation for years at Avonmouth.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 03, 2012, 10:49:56 pm
I'm hoping this is all idle speculation, I've never heard of a "production" model (eg the 595 Competizione) being modded at the dealer before being handed over to the customer.

If however all of this is correct, does this mean the car is going to have to go through the same two stage DVLA registration process as the SS, in this case registered first as a 500 and then converted to being a 595?

That is exactly how it's being done.
It's not unusual for things to be done this way. Mazda are now jumping on the bandwagon as well.
The new MX5 GT is being built in the normal factory and then being brought into the UK and modified afterwards.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on September 04, 2012, 11:04:01 am
To me the MX5 GT is a case in point. It is being billed as a tuned, probably limited edition car prepared by Jota Sport, a UK based tuning company. It isn't being sold as a regular production model and as such it is completely understandable that it is modded here in the UK.

The 595 however is being pitched as a full production, high priced premium model, not a limited edition and as such one might expect that all of the production happens in the factory.

I can't imagine VW UK adding all sorts of bits and pieces in the local dealer to turn the Golf GTI into the GTI 35 model.

Don't get me wrong I love my 500 - it is great fun, reliable and I can't imagine what else I'd rather have (other than possibly a 595). There are some very good dealers (Vospers) but Abarth as a company both here and in Italy seem to be pretty inept in many respects.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: olopboy on September 04, 2012, 11:15:28 am
It is becoming more common, there are a number of new cars that I have seen in my recent searching that have certain items stated as dealer fit even though it is standard on the model type. I would think this allows manufactures more regional flexibility.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: sandys on September 04, 2012, 11:46:16 am
I can't imagine VW UK adding all sorts of bits and pieces in the local dealer to turn the Golf GTI into the GTI 35 model.

Can't speak for VW but this is pretty much what happens, not always at the dealer, as mentioned my brother in law was employed to do such task at the docks, bolting on bodykits, changing the alloys, brake specs, ECUs etc. when he was made redundant last year it was because manufacturers had decided to cut out the middle man and bring this work into the dealers, apparently a quality control move but more likely a cost reduction.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on September 04, 2012, 12:01:08 pm
I am sure you are right - but can you tell us which cars undergo this work?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: sandys on September 04, 2012, 12:06:01 pm
He was doing Toyota and Lexus I think but there were other groups doing other cars, they weren't special edition things otherwise he would not have had enough work to keep him employed all the years he was doing it.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: olopboy on September 04, 2012, 12:39:22 pm
VAG definitely have this noted on models under different sections of the group  :-[
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Aff on September 04, 2012, 01:54:01 pm
For me this news definitely puts a new angle on the 'do I mod my existing A500 or buy a 595' question.  Ok, it's commonplace but it just seems a bit wrong.  Oh well :-\
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: rui on September 04, 2012, 02:04:10 pm
My interest in a 595 comp goes down by the hour.
Looks like a 1960's Porsche will be sitting in the place of the 595.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on September 04, 2012, 02:15:08 pm
What is the registration situation - will it be a 595 at the outset or will the reg doc have to go back to the DVLA to be updated from 500 to 595 as per the SS?

Also any word on what insurers will be making of the 595 Comp in terms of groupings compared to the standard 500 and 500SS?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GTMartin on September 04, 2012, 02:57:14 pm
Also any word on what insurers will be making of the 595 Comp in terms of groupings compared to the standard 500 and 500SS?

Mine quoted me the same as a A500 SS
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 04, 2012, 03:48:36 pm
The insurance issue has already been resolved here https://www.abarthforum.co.uk/500-abarth/500-abarth-insurance/msg2413/#msg2413

As to what the V5 will say is anyone's guess.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on September 04, 2012, 04:11:07 pm
Thanks John.  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on September 04, 2012, 04:24:38 pm
Maybe they will fit my yellow callipers at the docks, the dealers or the 2016 Olympic games  ::)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 04, 2012, 04:30:05 pm
 ;D
Yellow calipers will be a factory thing  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: rui on September 04, 2012, 07:10:21 pm
A bare metal shell is posted to the UK dealer and they will paint it the colour you want using aerosol cans.
Then the YTS boy bolts on the other parts but don't worry the service manager will give it the once over.
That will be £20,000 please
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on September 05, 2012, 11:24:53 am
What is the registration situation - will it be a 595 at the outset or will the reg doc have to go back to the DVLA to be updated from 500 to 595 as per the SS?

As far as I'm aware, nothing ever happened with the SS. As far as the DVLA are concerned, they're all A500s :-*
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 05, 2012, 11:41:30 am
My understanding is at the moment:
The 595 has a different version code to the 500 so it will be shown on the V5 as a 595.
This information is not 100% as originally DVLA said they would change the V5 for an Esse Esse but then refused to do it.
We'll have to wait and see what happens, There are now Turismo convertibles in Portbury so they should hopefully be on the road soon.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on September 05, 2012, 09:43:12 pm
According to my dealer the ordering system is still not completely working! Checked if my spec had gone in but they still can't order red sabelts had to put black in and hopefully they should be able to amend it Friday or Saturday! Apparently my car is due for build in week 40( early October) . I've asked the dealer to keep me posted as I don't want black sabelts and may have to change my order. I'm patient but this is ridiculous. Anyone else checked if their specs has gone in?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: hot_fiat on September 06, 2012, 10:31:00 am
It's only the 6th of September: you can't expect Italian IT to have gone properly back to work just yet.   ;D

Aside from homoligation., if the kit was fitted at the factory, it's quite likely that the car would be a few bands higher in VED.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 11, 2012, 11:55:37 am
Our first Turismo is now with us.
There will be more pictures to follow but I thought this would be one of the ones that was most interesting.
Picture of the front shocks.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Yordan on September 11, 2012, 12:04:31 pm
It may sound stupid but are the shocks koni or are they shocks with the FSD technology?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 11, 2012, 01:16:54 pm
No, it says "FSD Technology Powered by Koni"
We have a bit of a slide show for you now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ4kepm8z0E&feature=youtu.be
The eagle eyed amongst you will notice there is no "Crackle effect" dashboard, we are waiting for an answer to that question.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: PowerJon on September 11, 2012, 01:43:31 pm
Nice work John, glad to see one finally in delivery spec in the UK. Was starting to think they were phantom cars, only to been seen on paper!

Noticed the red stitching on the steering wheel has gone too...  :( shame. Good colour combo though....
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 11, 2012, 01:47:41 pm
I think a cautionary note here.
These cars will have been built before the "teething problems" with ordering were sorted out.
They may not be the exact U.K. spec (ie dashboard, cloured inserts in the steering wheel) so whilst it gives us a good idea of what to expect they may not be exact.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Dan on September 11, 2012, 03:01:23 pm
well I am a little dissapointed apart from the bi-colour and the 595 badges it looks exactly like my 11 plate C.
- not liking the colour choice here either and those light grey leather seats won't last long IMOP. also its a shame they did not put the 595 badge on the gear selector panel like they have done with the 695 to make it real a little more special.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: PowerJon on September 11, 2012, 04:20:02 pm
I think a cautionary note here.
These cars will have been built before the "teething problems" with ordering were sorted out.
They may not be the exact U.K. spec (ie dashboard, cloured inserts in the steering wheel) so whilst it gives us a good idea of what to expect they may not be exact.
Any idea when this one was built then John? Pre August and pre factory shut down I imagine?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: retro on September 11, 2012, 04:57:32 pm
Has the USB socket disappeared in that video?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 11, 2012, 05:00:36 pm
The car was built after the factory re opened.

The USB socket is under the microsoft sign next to the AUX input.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: olopboy on September 11, 2012, 07:02:04 pm
Mine has a slidey thing for the USB like that one did it disappear on later cars?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 11, 2012, 07:24:51 pm
No, the socket in the picture is the later version.
Yours didn't have the AUX socket.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on September 11, 2012, 10:08:04 pm
and those light grey leather seats won't last long IMOP.

Well they survived my bum sat on them, I did have jeans on incase your wondering :whistle:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Nadeem on September 13, 2012, 10:12:10 pm
No, it says "FSD Technology Powered by Koni"
We have a bit of a slide show for you now http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJ4kepm8z0E&feature=youtu.be
The eagle eyed amongst you will notice there is no "Crackle effect" dashboard, we are waiting for an answer to that question.

Are they the dampers to fix knocking problems for owners that are having issues?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 13, 2012, 11:15:11 pm
The current rear dampers don't appear to have the problems that the early ones have.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on September 18, 2012, 12:42:35 pm
I had a quick look at the Abarth UK website to see if it had been updated - ha ha

It still has just the briefest of 595 info and no sign of a configurator or price list, if Vospers can sort their own one out (sadly without virtual visualisations) then why can't Abarth UK get their act together?

The casual punter will be put off by the almost total lack of info and certainly won't be aware that there is more out there.

PS Any sign of the elusive Comps?

Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GOLDIE on September 18, 2012, 01:34:35 pm
Its not just the casual punter who has been put off.........
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 18, 2012, 01:52:56 pm


PS Any sign of the elusive Comps?

I've got one in transit.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jazzdevil on September 18, 2012, 09:04:48 pm
How did you get one in a Transit?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on September 18, 2012, 09:07:40 pm
It gets assembled at the dealer  ;)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 18, 2012, 10:24:46 pm
How did you get one in a Transit?

Very funny JD  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 22, 2012, 12:30:24 pm
Turismo in Record Grey is now here.
Everything you see in the pictures is standard equipment apart from the colour and the pedal pack has not been fitted yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQGFC4XCnN8
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: grimwau on September 22, 2012, 12:57:23 pm
Looks great John.  :thumb:

Can't tell for sure due to poor display ATM but does this car not have the crackle finish dash? Also, Climate control that was originally listed at £266.00 now std?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 22, 2012, 01:07:13 pm
It's looking more likely that the crackle dash will not feature on the Turismo but that still isn't 100% confirmed yet.
Climate control is standard on both the Turismo and Competizione.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: grimwau on September 22, 2012, 02:31:44 pm
John, many thanks for the updated info.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jazzdevil on September 22, 2012, 02:34:27 pm
John, is it still a 'TBC' situation on the Matt finish whisker, door handles and boot catch on the Comp too??
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 22, 2012, 02:39:35 pm
I have a Competizione arriving sometime next week which has option "Kit Chromo 2" on it which we are speculating is the brushed handles.
Guess we'll find out then  :wave:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jazzdevil on September 22, 2012, 03:13:24 pm
Cheers Mr H, l'll continue to watch this space then
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fhkj on September 25, 2012, 10:13:59 am
My Turismo 500C has arrived! I've even seen photos so I know it is true. Should be on the road this or early next week, so will post photos then...
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 26, 2012, 06:48:18 pm
As promised detailed pictures of a Competizione can be found here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_RQBxBlrBw
All bits on the car are standard equipment apart from the paint and the leather.
Sorry, it appears "kit Chromo2" appears to be chrome wing mirrors and the matt finish handles are not going to make an appearance.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: CAZZZ on September 26, 2012, 07:11:36 pm
What's your verdict John?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 26, 2012, 07:24:20 pm
Rides like you would expect if you've had Koni's before.
Matt stripes are very subtle.
Dash looks great and it's a nice touch to have the backs of the seats the same colour and texture as the dash.
It's the little touches that finish it off though, the leather parcel shelf with Competizione written in it, the carbon fibre kick plates and the pedals just make it the whole package :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: sandys on September 26, 2012, 07:32:25 pm
I like that inside, none of that sombre blackness  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: MarcoPolo on September 26, 2012, 07:47:30 pm
Yes, looks really great.  :thumb:

Personally - wouldn't have a white interior. Will get dirty very quickly, and need regular maintenance but otherwise a very stylish car.  8)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on September 26, 2012, 07:57:15 pm
A very nice car!  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GTMartin on September 26, 2012, 08:25:44 pm
the matt finish handles are not going to make an appearance.

At all John?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 26, 2012, 10:11:08 pm
It appears not.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jazzdevil on September 26, 2012, 10:20:53 pm
It appears not.

In the words of Father Ted, "down with this sort of thing"  :thumbd:


Wonder how easy it would be to self 'modify' them??
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Yordan on September 26, 2012, 11:14:27 pm
I wonder what's left from the car shown at Goodwood!  :thumbd:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: retro on September 26, 2012, 11:17:51 pm
I blame the penny pinching bean counters. Would still have one tho even without SS wheels!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on September 26, 2012, 11:44:08 pm
I wonder what's left from the car shown at Goodwood!  :thumbd:

Just the grey paint  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 27, 2012, 08:52:34 am
I think it's pretty well established that the cars we saw at Goodwood were made to a "rough" spec from bits out of the parts bin.
We now have in front of us the actual specs so lets judge them on that rather than what we "hoped" would have been the spec in the past.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 27, 2012, 04:51:58 pm
Let's try a Black one with the Red satin Stripes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUwGoH23LIU
Didn't have the time to put the Monza on but it will have one :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on September 27, 2012, 05:44:40 pm
Looking better.

Where's the red one with red leather?  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: MarcoPolo on September 27, 2012, 06:51:37 pm
I like  ;D

I didn't realize Monzas where fitted post production on this model.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on September 27, 2012, 06:52:18 pm
Yep, so you get a spare back box
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Yordan on September 27, 2012, 11:22:36 pm
You could fit it under the monza to stop it rusting.  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: DanDey on September 28, 2012, 05:50:40 am
Yordon, first salesman phoning me with 595 deals and specs yesterday,has alot in stock. very tempted, am waiting for the email  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Yordan on September 28, 2012, 03:10:08 pm
Yordon, first salesman phoning me with 595 deals and specs yesterday,has alot in stock. very tempted, am waiting for the email  :thumb:

Do you mind checking your spelling?  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on October 01, 2012, 01:35:38 pm
Interesting to see that Abarth are still showing the 595 Comp at the Paris show this week with the not available SS wheels and the never to make production satin gunmetal chrome trim.

You would think that having production models of the car running down the production line they would show one of those, or at the very least update the show cars to accurately reflect the production models.  :whistle:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: retro on October 01, 2012, 01:44:10 pm
I just noticed that. Still a shame.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: JKDesign80 on October 01, 2012, 05:09:40 pm
Interesting to see that Abarth are still showing the 595 Comp at the Paris show this week with the not available SS wheels and the never to make production satin gunmetal chrome trim.

You would think that having production models of the car running down the production line they would show one of those, or at the very least update the show cars to accurately reflect the production models.  :whistle:

Thought the same thing! so different to the reality of what you really get.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on October 02, 2012, 02:21:48 pm
An SS in fancy clothes that are no longer so fancy. :'(
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on October 02, 2012, 03:42:19 pm
Or a 695 - the badges and a couple of bits of carbon and 20 grand :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: MichaelS on October 02, 2012, 07:26:31 pm
Picked up my Turismo in bi colour red and grey today, drove home 70 miles everything seems really good.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on October 02, 2012, 07:52:16 pm
Congrats fella enjoy it  :thumb: pictures please....... NOW ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on October 02, 2012, 08:16:48 pm
Picked up my Turismo in bi colour red and grey today, drove home 70 miles everything seems really good.
enjoy! Pics please when you can tear yourself away from driving it ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on October 03, 2012, 11:01:31 am
Or a 695 - the badges and a couple of bits of carbon and 20 grand :thumb:

Not quite, and after driving both, I can assure you the extra £20k provides excellent value for money :-*

If you really want my opinion, anyone who pays approx £20k for one of these when you can get a low milage 695 for less than £25k needs psychiatric treatment. Enjoy :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on October 03, 2012, 03:34:40 pm
I toyed with the idea of a tributo but can't find one for less than 30k  :thumbd:

If anyone knows of one let me know  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on October 03, 2012, 03:54:14 pm
The last time I looked the cheapest 695 was over £35k making the 595 look positively cheap
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on October 03, 2012, 04:01:10 pm
The last time I looked the cheapest 695 was over £35k making the 595 look positively cheap

You'd need to go private. IIRC Tributo sold hers for £22k  :o
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on October 03, 2012, 04:22:24 pm
Cripes - that's some loss for her and some bargain for the person who bought it.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on October 03, 2012, 04:41:07 pm
The last time I looked the cheapest 695 was over £35k making the 595 look positively cheap

You'd need to go private. IIRC Tributo sold hers for £22k  :o

Yeah If Id been a position to buy I would of  :thumb: ..... but it was red  :thumbd: I want a blue one like yours  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on October 03, 2012, 06:27:07 pm
I'd have had red  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on October 04, 2012, 01:03:55 pm
£20-£30 grand for a 2nd hand fancy fiat 500 with no warranty  :'( it makes £20k for a new one not so crazy :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on October 04, 2012, 02:40:30 pm
Anyone waiting to see what the Yellow calipers would look like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SdW3UqYNbhA
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on October 04, 2012, 05:17:27 pm
Some good news from a question asked a while ago.
I can now confirm that the registration certificate (V5) will display 595 as the model for the new range.
Obviously the base 500 will remain unchanged.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on October 05, 2012, 10:44:20 am
£20-£30 grand for a 2nd hand fancy fiat 500 with no warranty  :'( it makes £20k for a new one not so crazy :thumb:

Didnt realise that I had no warranty or that if I had, that it would be nontransferable. Thought that within the 3 year window, you only lost your warranty due to serious modification...
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on October 05, 2012, 12:11:19 pm
What I meant was as the used 695's come up for sale at 2 or so years old they start to run out of warranty and you are spending a lot of money on a highly tuned fiat with only one year or so's transferable warranty remaining. Where for slightly less money you could have a car that is realistically not that different with a full 3 years warranty. It's a good thing - coz they have been known to go wrong!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: retro on October 05, 2012, 03:29:04 pm
Some good news from a question asked a while ago.
I can now confirm that the registration certificate (V5) will display 595 as the model for the new range.
Obviously the base 500 will remain unchanged.

Can search for 595s on the autotrader iPhone app now. I wonder if insurance companies know what one is yet!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on October 05, 2012, 03:36:36 pm
I would suggest so, the insurance groupings have been out for a little while now.
Edit:
Turismo and Competizione are both 28U compared with an NP being 26U
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: retro on October 05, 2012, 03:48:11 pm
I like the yellow calipers. Has that alloy at 1:20 been curbed already?! Not that I should comment...
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on October 05, 2012, 04:13:52 pm
I wondered if anyone would spot that  ;D
It's not kurbed, it's just a bit of rubber from when the tyres were fitted and I didn't have the time to clean off  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on October 05, 2012, 04:17:48 pm
I wondered if anyone would spot that  ;D
It's not kurbed, it's just a bit of rubber from when the tyres were fitted and I didn't have the time to clean off  :thumb:


Half a job John  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jazzdevil on October 05, 2012, 04:21:47 pm
I wondered if anyone would spot that  ;D
It's not kurbed, it's just a bit of rubber from when the tyres were fitted and I didn't have the time to clean off  :thumb:


Half a job John  ;D

..a bit harsh Cliff.  3/4 of a job maybe ;-)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on October 05, 2012, 04:31:32 pm
Watch it you two  :bat:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on October 05, 2012, 06:13:22 pm
 ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Scorpion on October 05, 2012, 07:07:46 pm
Some good news from a question asked a while ago.
I can now confirm that the registration certificate (V5) will display 595 as the model for the new range.
Obviously the base 500 will remain unchanged.

 ???
500 still on the dash?
500 still on the rear chrome tail lift?

Hmmmmmm.......
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on October 05, 2012, 07:35:30 pm
For those that didn't know the configurator is now online......Unfortunately there are still problems, is says the 595 comp comes with 16" wheels  ::)

http://www.abarthconfigurator.com/Start.aspx?IdLanguage=UK_E&StartPageType=Gamma&Node=500
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on October 05, 2012, 08:14:32 pm
Its flaky to say the least. If you add a sunroof it doesn't get added to the price and if you choose the dodgy blue you get a mix of white and black exterior views!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GTMartin on October 05, 2012, 08:25:55 pm
I could not see an alloy gear knob option.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on October 05, 2012, 10:19:20 pm
You wont on the Comp or the Turismo, they are standard kit
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on October 08, 2012, 09:42:43 am
What I meant was as the used 695's come up for sale at 2 or so years old they start to run out of warranty and you are spending a lot of money on a highly tuned fiat with only one year or so's transferable warranty remaining. Where for slightly less money you could have a car that is realistically not that different with a full 3 years warranty. It's a good thing - coz they have been known to go wrong!

Tributo's was only a year old when she sold it and you can buy warrantees for a few hundred quid - so I'm told.
For that you get something that's a bit special, will depreciate less and drive like an A500 should. Job done :-*

Can't really see the 595 carrying any more than a £1k resale premium over the NP (a la the SS). Baring in mind that the 595 is mechanically identical to the SS (no bad thing), its a shame that Abarth appear to have compromised on the aesthetics which are obviously fundamental to its appeal.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Nadeem on October 08, 2012, 10:06:13 am
Any chance a dealer would be able to take a picture of the rear suspension?  It would be interesting to see if same bump stops are used or whether the spec has been changed!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on October 08, 2012, 10:12:31 am
Any chance a dealer would be able to take a picture of the rear suspension?  It would be interesting to see if same bump stops are used or whether the spec has been changed!

Also has anyone seen what colour the springs are ? red like SS  ???
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on October 08, 2012, 10:55:10 am
Cant be bothered to do a huge wall of quoting so I'll just use names  :wave:

Hozepipe:
I would of agreed with you but as the 595 is technically a different model it's made it into the CAP pricing guides. A quick comparison on Saturday showed a £2500 difference in trade price between an NP and a Turismo.

Nadeem:
Can't say I looked but there is no reason they would be different.

Trooper:
The springs are red on a Comp and black on a Turismo.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on October 08, 2012, 12:59:30 pm
Hozepipe:
I would of agreed with you but as the 595 is technically a different model it's made it into the CAP pricing guides. A quick comparison on Saturday showed a £2500 difference in trade price between an NP and a Turismo.

A tangible reason for selecting a 595 over an SS. You learn something new every day :thumb:
Title: Re: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: sargeantpepper on October 08, 2012, 08:31:12 pm
Am I missing something, or were buyers of 695's forced to have the wonky auto box?

Tributo's was only a year old when she sold it and you can buy warrantees for a few hundred quid - so I'm told.
For that you get something that's a bit special, will depreciate less and drive like an A500 should. Job done :-*

Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk 2

Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on October 08, 2012, 08:33:47 pm
695s were all flappy paddle

have you driven one?

Whoosh bang ;D :thumb:
Title: Re: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: sargeantpepper on October 08, 2012, 08:39:51 pm
695s were all flappy paddle

have you driven one?

Whoosh bang ;D :thumb:

Not a 695, but tried a Mito tct before buying a 155 tb in manual form.  I presume its a similar box in the 500?

I just dislike any driver interaction being taken away, and haven't got on with any auto box I've tried. Maybe my mind would be changed if I had tried a double clutch system.

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Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on October 08, 2012, 08:42:47 pm
695 is something else, it just makes you smile :thumb:
Title: Re: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: sargeantpepper on October 08, 2012, 08:51:50 pm
I don't doubt it, and they are special.  Sat in one when they first came out, I loved it, Mrs hated it (don't think carbon does it for girls).

695 is something else, it just makes you smile :thumb:

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Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on October 08, 2012, 09:02:00 pm
so a 500 can't be a girls car then ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on October 08, 2012, 10:30:51 pm
Trying to compare the drive of a Mito with a 695 is like comparing chalk and cheese a plastic Llama  :wave:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: grimwau on October 09, 2012, 10:49:48 am
695s were all flappy paddle

have you driven one?

Whoosh bang ;D :thumb:

I understand the software for the box made the gearchanges in the 695 much slicker than the std competizione box fitted to the NP A500.

I found it to be a little sluggish and this put me off originally. However, as I am now looking to buy a "Turismo" with this option can I ask if anyone knows whether the "MTA" box in the 595 has this improvement?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on October 09, 2012, 11:07:30 am
I'll find out today, our Turismo C is going through PDI as we speak.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on October 09, 2012, 11:24:29 am
Right, I've had a drive and I would suggest that the gear change when driving harder is improved.
What's perhaps more significant is now that I've driven Turismo as well as Competizione I would suggest they have changed the engine map. Can't get this confirmed as yet but the power definately feels like it comes in earlier and stronger than the old Esse Esse map.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jimmyl on October 09, 2012, 05:53:34 pm
Can't get this confirmed as yet but the power definately feels like it comes in earlier and stronger than the old Esse Esse map.

Lets hope for a TSB to release one of those for us on the old map...  :thumb:  :whistle:
Title: Re: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: sargeantpepper on October 09, 2012, 07:18:09 pm
I would suggest they have changed the engine map. Can't get this confirmed as yet but the power definately feels like it comes in earlier and stronger than the old Esse Esse map.

Well this is very good news. ^-^

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Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: MichaelS on October 09, 2012, 10:05:25 pm
Had my bi colour 595 Turismo for one week now and the paddle gearbox is really very slick and quick, very pleased!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: grimwau on October 11, 2012, 12:44:19 pm

Right, I've had a drive and I would suggest that the gear change when driving harder is improved.
What's perhaps more significant is now that I've driven Turismo as well as Competizione I would suggest they have changed the engine map. Can't get this confirmed as yet but the power definately feels like it comes in earlier and stronger than the old Esse Esse map.

Had my bi colour 595 Turismo for one week now and the paddle gearbox is really very slick and quick, very pleased!

Many thanks to both of you.  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jontell on October 11, 2012, 06:25:06 pm
Would the MTA box in a standard A500 be the same as the turismo?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on October 11, 2012, 07:18:55 pm
The box is the same but the software appears to be different.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Nadeem on October 12, 2012, 11:09:20 pm
The box is the same but the software appears to be different.

Just to be clear, is the engine or gearbox software updated, or both?  And can a dealer update gearbox software on older cars (with or without a fee).  Also, is it smoother or faster?

I ask because I don't think the gearchange on my 500c SS is as bad as all the doubters make out, most reviews and experience is of an NP500c.  I also ask as an altered map/performance also makes the gearchange smoother.  I noticed that when myTMC box was fitted - possibly an altered torque curve.

Either way the logic of the software is miles better than the idiotic VAG group DSGs that constantly shift up or down and most annoyingly - when going round corners!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on October 13, 2012, 08:56:19 am
As far as I'm aware the Esse Esse update has always changed the box software as well. Most people that Esse Esse the auto C comment on how much different it is.

We cannot update the older software as it's done by the flash tool and that is driven by chassis numbers from Turin.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: 3k5k on October 13, 2012, 09:06:44 am
Went to look at the 595'S last week, as Bev is coming up for a new one.
They had  a Grey metalic colour Turismo cant remember the colour name and a red Competizione, which looked great with the Sabelts and had the Monza exhaust, there is only a thousand pound difference between the two cars, so the Competizione looked the best bet for the money.
The spec we looked at is a 595 Competizione  with black convertable hood, in Campovola grey with black stripes, we will the get the team Dynamic wheels we have on the 500 at the moment finished in black.
Need to get that photoshoped ;D. Anyone.


kEVO
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: tomv1to on October 14, 2012, 08:40:29 pm
Hey guys I've been away for a little while and the new 595's have me confused.

Is the 595 competizione basically a 500 with the SS 695 kit, a monza and the Sabelt seats?

What are the differences between the Competizione and the Turismo.

I had to sell my Abarth in Jan and am looking at getting into another one at the beginning of next year. I initially just thought about looking into a basic Abarth 500 with a Monza or possibly an SS with a Monza again only to go on the website and discover not only are there different SS packages now but two brand new models.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jazzdevil on October 14, 2012, 10:26:40 pm
@tomv1to ...post #1 of this thread should clarify the details squire  :thumb:
It's not as simple as up rated SS and not really 695 kit equivalent either
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on October 17, 2012, 04:48:19 pm
I took up John's offer of a test drive in the Comp and am very pleased I made the trip down to Plymouth.

My main concern was the Sabelt seats. I find that the 500 forces you into a legs splayed posture and I was worried that the narrow looking Sabelts might dig uncomfortably into your thighs. No such problems with this  but I did find that the backrest is very hard and initially was uncomfortable almost like a plank against my spine. On the verge of being completely gutted about this I started fiddling around and found that if you move the seat a bit closer and have the backrest a bit more upright than you might expect it suddenly becomes comfortable. Result  :thumb: The dog crate also fitted in.  :thumb:

Other thoughts:

The extra power over the NP 500 is noticeable and very welcome.

The Monza really does make a great sound. A bit throatier in the car and a lot rortier outside - not forgetting the pops and crackles. It is such a hooligan.

The crackle finish dash is OK - on balance I probably still prefer it in body colour.

The leather & alcantara Sabelts look good and in my opinion are worth it over the cloth version due their almost aftermarket style mismatch between front and rear seats (front black & dark grey no stripes - rear black with red stripes & no grey). The leather seats also make the car feel much more "premium" - which it is given its relatively high price.

The suspension is a big step forward. The car is still firm, but the back end especially feels a lot more planted with none of the "skippyness" of the regular 500.

The de-specced stereo with the missing sub-woofer is a disappointment especially on faster A roads and motorways.

Conclusion:

Did I like it enough to buy one - what do you think  :)



Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Ninjauk on October 17, 2012, 04:53:25 pm
Would you buy a body colour'd dash to go in it?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on October 17, 2012, 04:58:12 pm
Probably not - I'm going for Red with Red Sabelts - so that'll get a bit of the outside colour on the inside!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Ninjauk on October 17, 2012, 05:00:16 pm
Good stuff.

 :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on October 17, 2012, 10:01:37 pm
If I were gonna get one I'd go for the grey, grey yellow look  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on October 18, 2012, 03:19:53 pm
Quote from: simer link=topic=9962.msg255418#ms :'(g255418 date=1350489492
Probably not - I'm going for Red with Red Sabelts - so that'll get a bit of the outside colour on the inside!

You'll love it - I've just picked mine up and it's so much better than the NP I left with John ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jazzdevil on October 18, 2012, 03:22:56 pm
Quote from: simer link=topic=9962.msg255418#ms :'(g255418 date=1350489492
Probably not - I'm going for Red with Red Sabelts - so that'll get a bit of the outside colour on the inside!

You'll love it - I've just picked mine up and it's so much better than the NP I left with John ;D

Really?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on October 18, 2012, 03:24:02 pm
I'm confused  ???

Yesterday you said that IF you got one you would go for Grey, Grey Yellow.

Today you say you've got one.

Quick work or what??
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jazzdevil on October 18, 2012, 03:31:05 pm
The "if" may have been taken out of context...

That said, pics or it never happened Cliff!!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on October 18, 2012, 03:32:27 pm
I Don't mess about my man, on my way to pick up some new wheels for it now  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jazzdevil on October 18, 2012, 03:33:21 pm
I Don't mess about my man, on my way to pick up some new wheels for it now  :thumb:

SS rims perchance?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on October 18, 2012, 05:39:03 pm
I Don't mess about my man, on my way to pick up some new wheels for it now  :thumb:

SS rims perchance?

I hope not! We have discussed this at length and have agreed that myself and Cliff can't turn up at meets
Wearing the same outfit :)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Yordan on October 18, 2012, 10:29:40 pm
I Don't mess about my man, on my way to pick up some new wheels for it now  :thumb:

Will we see it next Thursday?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on October 19, 2012, 09:48:31 am
You sure will  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: olopboy on October 19, 2012, 09:59:12 am
You really need to update you sig now  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on October 19, 2012, 10:09:48 am
I will do as soon as I've stopped playing  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on October 19, 2012, 08:10:43 pm
I've not really had a chance to take any pictures of the car because of the rain, I've got a couple til the weather changes  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Carlos on October 19, 2012, 08:22:51 pm
Nice work fella I'm well chuffed you got it! Now when can I see it?! Ha ha
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on October 19, 2012, 09:06:30 pm
Nice work fella I'm well chuffed you got it! Now when can I see it?! Ha ha

At mate, you can see it when ever you like! I'm about all weekend?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on October 21, 2012, 02:28:54 pm
Had a drive in the 595 comp yesterday at westover. Apart from the "trinket" bits eg badges ,dash etc loved it . The sabelts are spot on for me( lucikily I have a small arse!) my only gripe is I couldn't adjust the seat angle without the door open as my hand got stuck between the seat and the door! The new suspension set up is much better IMO. Firm yes but not crashy like on my 500c ss and the power pick up is more immediate and direct , maybe the engine has been remapped. Drove it for over an hour on my own on different roads surfaces and was impressed. Just as well as mine is at status 30 so hopefully have it early november ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on October 21, 2012, 03:49:07 pm
They do drive lovely, power and ride is spot on  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Exoticaholic on October 21, 2012, 05:20:17 pm
Had a drive in the 595 comp yesterday at westover. Drove it for over an hour on my own on different roads surfaces and was impressed.


Good of them. My local dealer doesn't have this policy but each to their own.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on October 21, 2012, 06:24:38 pm
That's a shame -  it was a decent test drive, on my own, that swung it for me and prompted me to buy one.

Your dealer will be missing out on a lot of potential sales.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Exoticaholic on October 21, 2012, 06:40:11 pm
That's a shame -  it was a decent test drive, on my own, that swung it for me and prompted me to buy one.

Your dealer will be missing out on a lot of potential sales.


I know, come 2015 I will see what happens when my A500c is up for replacement.

I'm much decided on my specification but can't do much until then.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on October 21, 2012, 07:12:08 pm
Think more dealers should let customers get out and drive on their own. No small talk and just concentrate on the car and drive.a great way to spend an hour ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on October 21, 2012, 07:18:53 pm
Lets not get off topic into a "my dealer let's me drive" thread  :wave:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Iraklis on October 21, 2012, 09:31:44 pm
Had a drive in the 595 comp yesterday at westover. Apart from the "trinket" bits eg badges ,dash etc loved it . The sabelts are spot on for me( lucikily I have a small arse!) my only gripe is I couldn't adjust the seat angle without the door open as my hand got stuck between the seat and the door! The new suspension set up is much better IMO. Firm yes but not crashy like on my 500c ss and the power pick up is more immediate and direct , maybe the engine has been remapped. Drove it for over an hour on my own on different roads surfaces and was impressed. Just as well as mine is at status 30 so hopefully have it early november ;D

Interesting fact that people claim that the 595 feels faster than a normal ss although they have the same power output. Any thoughts on that?





Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on October 21, 2012, 09:40:47 pm
They have a different map and yeah mine feels faster than any of the SS's I've driven in the past, it feels faster than my old car now after 550 miles - that made 168bhp on the rollers!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on October 21, 2012, 10:44:26 pm
I have to say that it's still unconfirmed that they have a different map.
At the moment it's only an opinion all be it an opinion shared by most that have driven it.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on October 22, 2012, 12:16:41 pm
I suspect its a combination of the suspension setup(better imo) and the power seems more instant and yes, it did feel faster than my old ss . I would agree with Cliff. When John501 knows if theres been a remap im sure he will let us know! :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Hozepipe on October 22, 2012, 06:49:55 pm
It would be no surprise. The 'old' SS map was pretty rubbish higher up in the rev range :-\
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Iraklis on October 22, 2012, 06:54:20 pm
Are we sure that the engine set-up is the same as the ss?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on October 22, 2012, 07:27:53 pm
Yep, no difference.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Ed Winchester on October 26, 2012, 10:51:56 am
Did any of the record grey 595 comp's ever reach the UK with natural leather as per the launch car. I see it's been dropped as an option, but also see grey leather in the dealers which isn't an option  :-\.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on October 26, 2012, 11:46:31 am
It would appear that the Tan and Grey leather have now re appeared on the system.
The grey has always been there as an option.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GTMartin on October 26, 2012, 11:57:34 am
The grey looks nice but I bet it would be a real pain to keep clean.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Ed Winchester on October 26, 2012, 12:03:38 pm
It would appear that the Tan and Grey leather have now re appeared on the system.
The grey has always been there as an option.

That's great news. I've only used the online configurator so far, which only shows black and red.

I don't expect grey and dark blue jeans would make happy mix.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on November 07, 2012, 01:10:46 pm
It would appear that Abarth have modified the rear springs on the Competizione and rubberised the bits that are close together to stop knocking noises.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jimmyl on November 07, 2012, 04:22:38 pm
It would appear that Abarth have modified the rear springs on the Competizione and rubberised the bits that are close together to stop knocking noises.

I wonder how you found that out!  :whistle:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on November 08, 2012, 07:35:39 am
Does anyone know if the 595 has an immobiliser,alarm or both?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: olopboy on November 08, 2012, 07:42:25 am
Just the immobiliser
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: retro on November 08, 2012, 09:22:25 am
It would appear that Abarth have modified the rear springs on the Competizione and rubberised the bits that are close together to stop knocking noises.


So John can we get this done to our cars? Will other dealers know about it. And does this mean the talk of revised koni rears is wrong.

Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jazzdevil on November 08, 2012, 09:35:47 am
It would appear that Abarth have modified the rear springs on the Competizione and rubberised the bits that are close together to stop knocking noises.


So John can we get this done to our cars? Will other dealers know about it. And does this mean the talk of revised koni rears is wrong.

@Retro - dude, that's your three questions of the day all used up before 09:30!!!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on November 08, 2012, 09:41:00 am
1, Don't know yet.
2, Depends if they've been bothered to look.
3, It seems likely although there does appear there was a fault with the koni's and the springs made it worse.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: olopboy on November 08, 2012, 09:42:57 am
I'm sure  the answer to 1 will be if you pay for new springs and fitting knock yourself out  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: retro on November 08, 2012, 12:07:51 pm
It would appear that Abarth have modified the rear springs on the Competizione and rubberised the bits that are close together to stop knocking noises.




So John can we get this done to our cars? Will other dealers know about it. And does this mean the talk of revised koni rears is wrong.

@Retro - dude, that's your three questions of the day all used up before 09:30!!!


:D

I'll carry on living with the klonk. That and the odd creak from the dashboard. Italian charachter!!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on November 09, 2012, 08:39:31 am
A little bit of French car p*rn to brighten your morning  :thumb:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-UL3KwM5zg&feature=plcp
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: olopboy on November 09, 2012, 09:20:13 am
Like the subliminal message of the woman in the 500c Turismo although like all good Lady Abarthisti she looks cool and kicks ass behind the wheel ;)

PS video makers, if there is a Monza there is no need for music  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on November 16, 2012, 08:35:30 am
After 15 weeks of waiting I pick up my new 595 comp tomorrow ! Spec is dual tone :grey over black,white satin stripe,sky dome,red leather sabelts and mta 'box. Pics and initial impressions to follow ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on November 16, 2012, 08:49:32 am
Congratulations - I'm still counting the days!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on November 16, 2012, 09:17:37 am
It's gonna be a long day today  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GTMartin on November 16, 2012, 09:31:23 am
Congratulations - I am still counting the weeks ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: mowman on November 16, 2012, 02:21:06 pm
Alec from Rockingham phoned me yesterday to say that my  'Obama 595'  is at the port in Bristol and may get it next week  ;D.  he also asked me to go to Rockingham this weekend  as he is having a bit of a do.  Will be a bit strange turning up on a pushbike  ??? Anyone else going?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jazzdevil on November 16, 2012, 02:23:32 pm
'Obama 595'

...dare I even ask?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Gav007 on November 16, 2012, 03:50:38 pm
After 15 weeks of waiting I pick up my new 595 comp tomorrow ! Spec is dual tone :grey over black,white satin stripe,sky dome,red leather sabelts and mta 'box. Pics and initial impressions to follow ;D

Can't wait to see some pictures  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on November 16, 2012, 04:58:51 pm
It's been a long day!  Won't sleep tonight! But the wait will be worth it. Will try and get some pics up over weekend but may be out driving ! ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on November 16, 2012, 05:00:26 pm
Anyone spot my earlier error in my post?!! Should be grey over red :whistle:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GTMartin on November 16, 2012, 05:28:25 pm
New car deprivation..........., you will get over it in 24 hours ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on November 17, 2012, 07:32:04 pm
A long day but I finally have my 595 comp! It's awesome. The mta box is much improved, than my old "C" ss. Quicker and smoother changes! The noise with the sky dome open of the monza.... Fab! Should be sunny tomorrow where I am so will take and try to post some pics! Simer... Can confirm the back seat are black leather with red sabelts but like me I don't think you'll be sitting in the back much ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on November 17, 2012, 07:36:42 pm
 :thumb: Glad you like it, I doubt anyone will get one and not like it - they're great! I've had mine a month now and it Lust gets better and better. Enjoy and let's have some pics
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on November 17, 2012, 07:45:27 pm
:thumb: Glad you like it, I doubt anyone will get one and not like it - they're great! I've had mine a month now and it Lust gets better and better. Enjoy and let's have some pics
does it loosen up? Feels tight by suspect it'll loosen up after some miles.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on November 17, 2012, 07:50:11 pm
Congratulations. Looking forward to the pics- especially of those red Sabelts.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: cliff on November 17, 2012, 08:35:06 pm
:thumb: Glad you like it, I doubt anyone will get one and not like it - they're great! I've had mine a month now and it Lust gets better and better. Enjoy and let's have some pics
does it loosen up? Feels tight by suspect it'll loosen up after some miles.

Yes mate without a doubt. 4 weeks, two days and 1600 miles it feels really alive  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on November 17, 2012, 08:49:30 pm
Cheers! Roll on the the first 1000 miles :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: mowman on November 22, 2012, 08:10:12 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D Got it!!!!!  Tucked up in the garage ready for tomorrows photo shoot!!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on November 22, 2012, 08:16:29 pm
Looking forward to the pics - the weather is meant to be much better  :thumb:

Chrome or Gunmetal?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: mowman on November 22, 2012, 09:27:37 pm
Gun metal. To match the Compo dashboard I am told. :whistle:

Scorpion black with red stripe the gun metal actually looks very good.

Black sabelt fabric seats - good asshuggers.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: grimwau on November 23, 2012, 07:35:15 am
Two questions that have been running around in my mind (plenty of space up there) that either one of the dealers or members can answer for me.

1.) Looking at Troopers pics of the rear brakes which he has pointed out now have wear sensors on both sides is there any possibility that the rear calipers may have at last been modified to overcome the problem of binding/squeking rear brakes?

2.) As the Competizione comes with Sabelts as standard fitment, does it still get a Euro NCAP rating of five stars even though it loses two air bags?

3.) OK, I know I said a "couple" of questions but this just srang to mind. I remember reading in a post that a member mentioned the two sensors on the front and rear suspensions and their purpose. I know mine has one on the NSF which I assumed was for the self levelling of the HIDs/Xenons but is the one on the rear also to do with beam alignment or if not is this for something new?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GTMartin on November 23, 2012, 08:49:57 am
I think it was Lloyd that spotted that the parts numbers of the rear callipers had changed, suggesting there may have been minor tweeks. No one seems to have reported problems with the newer cars.

NCAP might be an average across the entire model range, the Competizione would be a small fraction of the entire 500 series production.

Perhaps using two sensors would provide quicker or greater accuracy of height adjustment.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: mowman on November 29, 2012, 06:22:26 pm
 Hopefully some (bit grainy) images. :D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Gav007 on November 29, 2012, 06:26:04 pm
Mowman - what a beauty in black! Now I know I made the right choice! Roll on delivery next week  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on November 29, 2012, 06:26:50 pm
Very smart - if I hadn't have gone for Black on Red I'd have had Red on Black like yours.  :thumb:

I see you have the de-chromed handles etc like my one has.

Only two more sleeps until I get mine  :)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: mowman on November 29, 2012, 07:16:41 pm
So pleased with it and like the non chrome. I just keep grinning!!!  Betcha cant wait?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on November 29, 2012, 07:27:26 pm
That is lovely! Like the black and the de chromed handles and tailgate pull. Where did you get those? Were they factory or dealer fit? Fancy some myself for my 595. :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: mowman on November 29, 2012, 08:44:03 pm
They come as factory fit on the Competizione. Came as a suprise actually.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on November 29, 2012, 09:09:25 pm
I've got a bicolour so maybe they don't come as standard. Will have to make some enquiries. Say it again .. Nice car ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Rikki23 on November 29, 2012, 10:21:40 pm
Nice one! Enjoy mate! Can't wait for mine to arrive!

 :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on November 29, 2012, 10:41:14 pm
I've got a bicolour so maybe they don't come as standard. Will have to make some enquiries. Say it again .. Nice car ;D
The standard for the satin handles is still under discussion.
It appears that if you have the standard satin stripes on a competizione they are paired with the chrome mirrors which will prevent the satin handles being fitted.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: grimwau on November 30, 2012, 07:27:04 am
Am I the only one who has ordered the Gara White with Red stripes/mirrors?

My dealer was quite pleased with my choice as it seems all the orders he has taken so far have been for Record Grey.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on November 30, 2012, 08:58:11 am
I've got a bicolour so maybe they don't come as standard. Will have to make some enquiries. Say it again .. Nice car ;D
The standard for the satin handles is still under discussion.
It appears that if you have the standard satin stripes on a competizione they are paired with the chrome mirrors which will prevent the satin handles being fitted.
ok thanks for clearing that up. Could you have the de chromed bits fitted after purchase? Are they available to order from the parts department?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on November 30, 2012, 09:00:55 am
Not yet, I'm sure they will be in the future.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Rikki23 on November 30, 2012, 09:14:15 am
Am I the only one who has ordered the Gara White with Red stripes/mirrors?

My dealer was quite pleased with my choice as it seems all the orders he has taken so far have been for Record Grey.

Gara White here but satin stripe and chrome mirrors.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: simer on November 30, 2012, 02:06:34 pm
John made a quick video of mine just before it went in for a clean and polish.

It's looking good - I can't wait!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TV-KU7rqKrk
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: GTMartin on November 30, 2012, 02:21:57 pm
It does look good :thumb:

Is that an alarm that you have had fitted?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jazzdevil on November 30, 2012, 02:56:32 pm
John made a quick video of mine just before it went in for a clean and polish.

It's looking good - I can't wait!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=TV-KU7rqKrk

superb!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: mowman on November 30, 2012, 03:46:41 pm
Very very nice :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: JKDesign80 on November 30, 2012, 05:11:05 pm
Very nice, love the interior especially!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on November 30, 2012, 05:45:11 pm
Very nice!...and the red sabelts... Spot on :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Rikki23 on November 30, 2012, 08:02:39 pm
Nice one you've got there mate!

I've ordered the same color sabelts but I'm surprised there's no red stitching on the steering wheel!? I thought it will come with it!?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: NickC on December 11, 2012, 10:16:54 am
Well I picked ours up from John down at Vospers in Plymouth last Saturday - a pleasure to deal with, by the way, and worth the 500 mile round trip from London.  Cheers, John.  The car is just great.  I'm loving it, as is the missus.  Can't remember having so much fun in a car, and ideal for round these parts.  We went for the Turismo in record grey with the tan leather, which looks fantastic whilst at the same time being suitably understated (you can't try to compete with some of the cars round here!) and getting plenty of admiring glances.  Handles really nicely, so easy to throw around, and the torque steer just adds to the fun!  All in all, delighted with the purchase so far.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on December 12, 2012, 06:45:24 pm
Sounds nice! Any pics?!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: NickC on December 14, 2012, 12:44:00 pm
It is!  I'll get some up when I work out how to!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: AdeyAbarth on December 14, 2012, 07:10:59 pm
Turismo in Record Grey is now here.
Everything you see in the pictures is standard equipment apart from the colour and the pedal pack has not been fitted yet.



Are the mirror caps on the Turismo in the video a matt silver or is it just my eyes?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on December 16, 2012, 07:46:57 pm
Stunning example.

love the seats,roof,gear nob and especialy the new door sills!

The satin bits - I like the front badge satin surround, i think it works really well and gives it a nice aggresive stance but i dont think it works on the handles and the rear boot lid imho.

Lovely car though :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on January 11, 2013, 05:10:47 pm
Apparently there has been a bit of product re-alignment from Turin on the 595 range.
I will go through it properly for you later but the biggest point that sticks out is that the popular Record Grey Competizione will no longer be available with the Grey Leather Sabelt seats.
Well done to the guys that have managed to buy one, you will have a rare and sort after vehicle  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on January 16, 2013, 10:35:34 pm
Interestingly it appears that you can now spec interscope on a Competizione......
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: seanjones on January 16, 2013, 11:15:11 pm
Does that mean you can't spec it on the other models?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Yordan on January 16, 2013, 11:18:12 pm
It means it can be specked on competizione too.  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: seanjones on January 16, 2013, 11:21:40 pm
Phew. Panic over.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on January 16, 2013, 11:22:04 pm
the interscope sub doesn't fit under the Sabelt seats which are standard in the Competizione. Previously this had been corrected on Sabelt cars by a slimline sub. This option disappeared when the Competizione was launched. It has now reappeared meaning interscope can once again be fitted to any 500 :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: retro on January 17, 2013, 07:56:38 am
Just SS wheels to go then :D.
Ps what option do you have to pick to get satin door handles/badges? Can u get them in a record grey comp?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on January 17, 2013, 08:57:59 am
To get the satin handles spec any stripe apart from the standard grey stripe.
The standard stripe is paired with chrome mirrors which automatically puts chrome handles on the car.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on January 18, 2013, 04:21:49 pm
John.. Can the interscope be retro fitted on a 595? If so do you know how much?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: J_a_m_e_s on January 18, 2013, 04:31:39 pm
Interscope is not standard on a 595  ???
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Gav007 on January 18, 2013, 05:09:40 pm
It can be fitted by a dealer for around £200.00  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on January 18, 2013, 06:28:49 pm
John.. Can the interscope be retro fitted on a 595? If so do you know how much?

Nope, the amplifier in the boot and the additional wiring is missing.
I would suggest looking at one of the aftermarket solutions some of the other members have used.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on January 18, 2013, 07:50:46 pm
John.. Can the interscope be retro fitted on a 595? If so do you know how much?

Nope, the amplifier in the boot and the additional wiring is missing.
I would suggest looking at one of the aftermarket solutions some of the other members have used.
ok thanks.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Scorpinok on January 23, 2013, 12:08:52 am
Quick question fellow Abarthisti's, is the 'Turismo' Pack on the 595 Turismo fitted by the Abarth Dealer or is it all done at the Factory?

I've put a deposit down on a Pre-reg Record Grey 595 Turismo and had a quick look over it tonight. There was no Alutex pedals, Turismo kick plates, Alloy Gear Knob, Bespoke Floor Mats, Alloy Fuel and Oil Caps!!!!!

The main problem I have is that the car has been delivered to my local Arnold Clark Fiat dealer and they don't have a clue when it comes to Abarth models.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: MichaelS on January 23, 2013, 07:05:10 am
All those pieces, pedals, mats, door strips etc were all dealer fit on my 595 Turismo
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on January 23, 2013, 08:49:00 am
Quick question fellow Abarthisti's, is the 'Turismo' Pack on the 595 Turismo fitted by the Abarth Dealer or is it all done at the Factory?

I've put a deposit down on a Pre-reg Record Grey 595 Turismo and had a quick look over it tonight. There was no Alutex pedals, Turismo kick plates, Alloy Gear Knob, Bespoke Floor Mats, Alloy Fuel and Oil Caps!!!!!

The main problem I have is that the car has been delivered to my local Arnold Clark Fiat dealer and they don't have a clue when it comes to Abarth models.

Hope it had the remap done then or you're owning a 135 bhp version  :wave:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Scorpinok on January 23, 2013, 09:49:28 am
Oh dear, this is going from bad to worse!!!

Thanks for the quick reply, I'm not parting with the rest of my money until it's all sorted. I thought this might happen but the deal was too good to knock back!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: sargeantpepper on January 23, 2013, 06:02:12 pm
Yeah I believe this is all done by the dealer once its registered with Abarth in Italy (after your purchase), so they send the map through then.  Before that it's a mere 138bhp  ;)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Scorpinok on January 23, 2013, 07:07:23 pm
I love Abarth but they don't make things easy. It baffles me why it's not all done at the factory but I suppose that's the Italian way!

Are the Koni Dampers fitted at the factory or is that a dealer fit as well? ;D

I'm sure it will all be sorted out but I'm not that happy with Arnold Clark at the moment.  :thumbd:

Once again thanks for the replies.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on January 24, 2013, 01:11:09 pm
Koni's are done in the factory.
In answer to your other question, if the car was 160bhp out of the factory then the emmisions would be higher and you would be paying more road fund licence.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: bubble on March 07, 2013, 02:16:13 pm
First post so hi!

Despite spending my lunchbreak reading all of this thread I'm still not sure, is it possible yet to get the door handles and tailgate pull in satin on a 595 Turismo (even if retro-fit) ?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: John501 on March 07, 2013, 02:33:32 pm
Definately not from the factory.
Will be available to order as parts but I would suggest it would be about £500 in parts alone.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Zato on March 07, 2013, 11:01:19 pm
I was ready to buy a pre reg abarth from arnold clark this week.  Have no idea extras had to be fitted and insisted i was an idiot and they came from the factory ready to go.  Eventually they caved and said rhe car had to go to Glasgow from Dundee to have the extras fitted but the price would increase.  Told them to jump in a Loch.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on March 07, 2013, 11:07:20 pm
what ???
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: grimwau on March 08, 2013, 07:15:09 am
Got to work feeling a little under the weather, checked on here as usual and have to say that after reading the OP I felt much better.  Something to brighten the morning was just what the doctor ordered.  ;D
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on March 10, 2013, 12:29:21 pm
Further knocking from the rear Konis.. Already had them replaced after 2 weeks now 4 months of ownership and the second set are knocking and really spoiling my enjoyment of the car. Will contact dealers again and possibly even Abarth .. This is not good enough :thumbd:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Scorpinok on March 10, 2013, 12:58:48 pm
I've had faulty Koni's changed on my 595 Turismo also and the knocking noise has come back! I've only had the car a month and I'm also becoming very frustrated with the car.

My dad has had his Champion White 595 Turismo for a couple of weeks and he's also got the same problem. His car is making an even louder knocking noise than mine, it's really not good enough! We both love our Abarth's but these problems have taken the gloss off the cars.  :(
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on March 10, 2013, 01:03:52 pm
I've had faulty Koni's changed on my 595 Turismo also and the knocking noise has come back! I've only had the car a month and I'm also becoming very frustrated with the car.

My dad has had his Champion White 595 Turismo for a couple of weeks and he's also got the same problem. His car is making an even louder knocking noise than mine, it's really not good enough! We both love our Abarth's but these problems have taken the gloss off the cars.  :(
Totally agree with you! What are you thinking of doing about it?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Scorpinok on March 10, 2013, 01:15:00 pm
My dad has already been dealing with Abarth UK about the non Abarth pedals which were fitted!!!! Laughable but to be fair to Abarth UK they were on the case straight away and put Arnold Clark in their place and told them to sort themselves out!!! This is the kind of sh*t that happens when you buy a car from Arnold Clark!

My dad will be contacting Abarth UK tomorrow about the Koni's on both our cars, he's not a happy camper at the moment so I think Abarth UK might have to batten down the hatches!  >:(
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on March 10, 2013, 03:35:38 pm
Yep. I think I'm going to do the same!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Trooper on March 10, 2013, 03:41:23 pm
I'm waiting for new konis to come in (again) hopefully will get them sorted  :-\
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Scorpinok on March 10, 2013, 04:28:14 pm
The funny thing is the main reason we both changed our Abarth 500's for the 595 Turismo's was because they came with Koni's. Not so sure if it was wise decision now, I thought the crude suspension on my old Abarth would be a distant memory, but unfortunately it's not. Abarth should have sorted these Koni problems out by now!

My dad is 70 and doesn't need this kind of hassle, this is his third Fiat/Abarth 500 and has a real fondness for the cars. It's just a shame the Abarth versions haven't been as reliable as the Fiat 500 he had.
 :(
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Callumbo on March 10, 2013, 10:19:50 pm
Can the knocking be heard from outside the car?

Reason I am asking is when i go over a bump or rough road I get a bit of a rattling noise but i wasn't sure
whether this was the konis knocking or just a bit of rattle?! Its only heard from inside the car though.

Sorry for the daft question
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Scorpinok on March 11, 2013, 09:40:22 am
At first I thought it was just a rattle (rear seats/parcel shelf) but the noise got progressively worse in both cars. That's when I took everything out of the boot including the parcel shelf and put the seats down. The rattling/knocking noise didn't go away, that's when I took my car into the dealer and they confirmed a faulty shock absorber.

I'm not sure whether they changed both or just the one faulty shock absorber on my car but the noise has come back. I'm going to find out today and see what Platts Abarth have to say!

There isn't much sound proofing in these cars so the noise comes right into the cabin from the rear!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: retro on March 11, 2013, 10:56:17 am
Sad to hear still a problem with the konis. Really is poor. Strange how some people have never had a problem, And some have been through multiple sets. I wonder if it is to do with some minor chassis difference where the suspension mounts. There is no way can be getting three faulty sets in a row. Really puts me off ordering a 595 at some point. Would rather get a 500 and mod it. Which isn't what I wanted to do. Or perhaps a different car...
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: FWD_Boy on March 12, 2013, 12:27:34 am
Koni issues seem to be hit and miss with some people being really lucky, others not so lucky.

Sadly it just seems to be an issue that has arrisen from an original failing in the A500's setup where the crashy and bouncy ride was the main criticism of the car after the high seating position.

Seems they fixed a problem with another problem - Dont you just love the Italians lol
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on March 14, 2013, 08:26:49 pm
My dealer is going to contact Abarth to see why the konis knock and what they are doing ,if anything to find  a long term solution rather than just replacing them with multiple sets of konis! It is poor showing :thumbd:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: 595 turismo on March 15, 2013, 10:11:56 pm
Do you think they may do a recall and give us all blistens?? I think mine do knock but it sounds more of a graunch than a knock but when people say at first they thought it was the parcel shelf that pretty much describes the noise I'm hearing.  :thumbd:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on March 18, 2013, 02:59:41 pm
I hope they do change the suspension as I've not been that impressed with the konis. The cofaps on the front seem ok and the front of the cars seems to ride much better than the rear! Maybe my perception but it does feel different.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: seanjones on March 18, 2013, 04:20:50 pm
I've been rather put off the idea of the 595 because of these problems. I'm thinking get a np 500 and have blistens put on instead.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Callumbo on March 18, 2013, 05:01:15 pm
Ive been having a knocking noise on the rear right for the past week. Took out parcel shelf etc but still there when
going over speed bumps etc.
Booked mine in on thursday to be checked over, hopefully i dont get fobbed off!!  :thumbd:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Yordan on March 18, 2013, 06:17:35 pm
I've been rather put off the idea of the 595 because of these problems. I'm thinking get a np 500 and have blistens put on instead.

Or get a 595 sell the konis and buy the Bilsteins.  :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Callumbo on March 18, 2013, 07:41:17 pm
I've been rather put off the idea of the 595 because of these problems. I'm thinking get a np 500 and have blistens put on instead.

Or get a 595 sell the konis and buy the Bilsteins.  :thumb:

Depending how my issues go. I'm tempted to do this.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: seanjones on March 18, 2013, 09:17:40 pm
Not a bad idea that
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: 595 turismo on March 18, 2013, 09:54:41 pm
Yeh but who's gonna buy the konis??
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: JKDesign80 on March 18, 2013, 10:21:17 pm
Bit of a faff and expense if not doing yourself I would say!

Hopefully Abarth will find a solution...
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Rikki23 on March 18, 2013, 11:58:40 pm
After reading all the comments regarding the Konis I think I might have the same problem! I've had the car for 3 weeks now and the noise is getting worse. Not impressed!   :thumbd:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on March 19, 2013, 09:13:26 am
Taking mine tomorrow for the garage to have another look. It's same knocking konis.. I'm pretty sure :thumbd:would having the Bilsteins put on affect the warranty?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Scorpinok on March 19, 2013, 07:39:53 pm
I've found out that only my left rear Koni was changed when it went to Platts. I think the right Koni is now faulty and that's where the knocking noise is coming from now!

It took a week and a half for the part to arrive from Italy when they said it would be 3 to 5 days as well, I'm assuming it will take the same length of time when I have to take it in again, which is a bit of a joke. 300 miles going back and forth to Stoke (Platts) already, not happy.  :thumbd:

I've also sent an email to Abarth regarding all the problems I've experienced so far, it will be interesting to see what they have to say.

I still love the car, just hope everything gets resolved ASAP. Maybe they should change the Koni's to Bilstein's under warranty!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Rikki23 on March 19, 2013, 08:20:05 pm
Do the faulty Konis affect the ride and handling of the car????
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on March 20, 2013, 04:24:54 pm
I don't think the knocking konis affect the handling but the ride at the rear does feel a bit more "crashy". Took mine today... Faulty konis again! The dealer is going to request another set( the third on a car thats 4 months old and done 3500 miles! I've asked the dealer to see if the Koni aren't sorted if abarth  would allow another make of dampers.. Possibly Bilsteins  to be put on and not affect the warranty. Should know more next week. It's really spoiling my enjoyment of an otherwise cracking little car.  :-[
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Rikki23 on April 22, 2013, 11:17:17 pm
Any news on the knocking konis???
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on April 28, 2013, 03:15:50 pm
Dealer has been in touch with Abarth technical in Turin .im supposed to be having new modified springs! As the ss ones might not be working with the konis properly! Waiting to have them fitted to see if it sorts the knocking issue.. If they don't anyone's guess what happens after that but I'm not going to put up with it till its sorted . Will pass on news as to how things are going. I know this has been an issue for a few people :thumbd:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Scorpinok on April 28, 2013, 03:41:54 pm
My 595 Turismo is booked in Wednesday to have new Koni's and springs fitted. This will be the second Koni's I've had fitted but this time new springs as well. My dad's 595 Turismo is having the same work done as well!

Hopefully this will be the last time I have to drive to Stoke (Platts)!!!
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on April 28, 2013, 03:56:24 pm
Well I picked ours up from John down at Vospers in Plymouth last Saturday - a pleasure to deal with, by the way, and worth the 500 mile round trip from London.  Cheers, John.

It never ceases to amaze me John, you must have some appeal :whistle:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Lewis on April 28, 2013, 04:36:53 pm
Mine shall be an 800 mile round trip in a few weeks  :)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: lloyd on April 28, 2013, 05:31:19 pm
what's it going to be this time Lewis?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Lewis on April 28, 2013, 05:50:41 pm
oh that would be telling..... ;)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Rikki23 on April 28, 2013, 11:23:25 pm
Thanks Fizzio!

 :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: adw1979 on May 07, 2013, 08:03:39 am
If I order a turismo with red sabelt seats will the back be red leather?
Sat in a turismo the other day which had full red leather but not sabelts was beutifull.
I know you get black rear seats in the comp if you order red fronts.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on May 10, 2013, 07:32:57 pm
Well all I've had the new modified springs fitted today in the faint hope they sort the rear knocking konis! Well so far it seems that knocking at low speeds is less that's when it was most noticeable. I've got to run the car for a couple of weeks and then let the dealer know how I've got on. One thing though ..the ride at the rear is much better less crashy  and the car feels better balanced. Will see how it goes and report back. :whistle:
Title: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: Nadeem on May 10, 2013, 10:31:24 pm
Well all I've had the new modified springs fitted today in the faint hope they sort the rear knocking konis! Well so far it seems that knocking at low speeds is less that's when it was most noticeable. I've got to run the car for a couple of weeks and then let the dealer know how I've got on. One thing though ..the ride at the rear is much better less crashy  and the car feels better balanced. Will see how it goes and report back. :whistle:

Is yours a 595?  Asking as I have the modified springs with silicone sheath, but the is still a faint rattle on the rebound over even surfaces rather than pot holes, but can't decide if that's just noisy suspension or hitting the bumpstops.  Local dealer bloke could hear it at all so not sure it's normal?  The wife's 08 R32 does something similar now and again.
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on June 08, 2013, 12:14:25 pm
Sorry Nadeem for delay in replying been away! Yep mine is a 595 comp and does have the silicone sheath on the springs. Waiting to hear what happens next. I've heard BIlsteins are good but think it will affect my warranty if I put them on. On another note does anyone know if the oil change is at 6k on the 595? Same as the ss?
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: AdeyAbarth on June 08, 2013, 12:35:52 pm
Sorry Nadeem for delay in replying been away! Yep mine is a 595 comp and does have the silicone sheath on the springs. Waiting to hear what happens next. I've heard BIlsteins are good but think it will affect my warranty if I put them on. On another note does anyone know if the oil change is at 6k on the 595? Same as the ss?

yes its the same oil change intervals  :)
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: fizzio on June 09, 2013, 10:25:20 pm
Ok thanks. Will get it booked in :thumb:
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: jimmyl on June 16, 2013, 10:34:18 am
Sorry Nadeem for delay in replying been away! Yep mine is a 595 comp and does have the silicone sheath on the springs. Waiting to hear what happens next. I've heard BIlsteins are good but think it will affect my warranty if I put them on. On another note does anyone know if the oil change is at 6k on the 595? Same as the ss?

yes its the same oil change intervals  :)

I'm not so sure, I think it is just assumption, the new manuals still only indicate a 6000 oil change for SS adapted vehicles, the 595 is not mentioned as being different to a standard 500. 

Until Abarth release service advice in black and white, it's all assumption on behalf of the dealers interpretation of the published facts.  Hopefully sorted by the time mine does 6000 miles
Title: Re: The Abarth 595 "turismo" and "competizione"
Post by: grimwau on June 16, 2013, 10:49:28 am
On another note does anyone know if the oil change is at 6k on the 595? Same as the ss?

yes its the same oil change intervals  :)

I'm not so sure, I think it is just assumption, the new manuals still only indicate a 6000 oil change for SS adapted vehicles, the 595 is not mentioned as being different to a standard 500. 

Until Abarth release service advice in black and white, it's all assumption on behalf of the dealers interpretation of the published facts.  Hopefully sorted by the time mine does 6000 miles

Same confusion at my dealers. They agreed that as the ECU upgrade was basically the same as the essseesse then the same servicing parameters should apply. However, they also said that there was paperwork to substantiate the earlier oil and filter changes for the SS but nothing had been sent through for the 595 variants. Because of this I have been told that unless anything different is released then they would expect the normal A500 service intervals to apply.

It would be great to hear back from John as to whether any further info is available.