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Title: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on April 20, 2016, 02:50:51 pm
As the title says..

has anybody ordered or put a deposit down or thinking of 1 in the very near future?
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on April 20, 2016, 06:08:16 pm
 :whistle:
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: flutes on April 20, 2016, 06:27:06 pm
Waiting to see cost in Australia. But probably not, will most likely get a Giulia as we need one sensible car.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: sandys on April 20, 2016, 11:12:17 pm
Will wait until I see it in the metal but for the apparent premium they are going to be asking for over the MX5 I don't think it offers enough.

You'd be able to buy a 5 and turbo it for next level performance.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: PORTHOS on April 21, 2016, 10:30:13 am
I like them a lot, I am currently planning to get one but again that price is just the only hurdle at the moment.

The MX-5 is stunning, it won a world design award recently and I can see why, Fiat had some say in it apparently, to what extend I'm not sure but Mazda apparently 'borrowed' the idea for the stitched dash from Fiat's 124 plans at least, lol.

It just depends what Abarth release after they have sold the Launch edition models, a lower spec one with less options? I'm not really sure but It's a great looking car IMO and it just needs a great looking price.

If they came out with a folding hard top like the MX-5 RF next year then I don't think I would be able to resist.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on April 21, 2016, 02:49:46 pm
theres chat about an ss version but I don't know how true that is...
the options on 124 are lacking!
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: PORTHOS on April 21, 2016, 03:43:09 pm
I imagine a tuned version will happen, but probably not before Mazda announce a turbo variant or more powerful variant.

I just can't see Mazda making a faster car than their own MX-5 on the same production line.... doesn't make business sense.
There is talk of them Turbocharging the MX-5 RF in which case I bet a faster 124 will come out around the same time.

If they are planning it (like using the 2.5 Turbo that's coming in the CX-9) they wont admit it yet as to not harm sales. We are only a year into the life of the new MX-5 and they are saying it has a 10 year life span.

Just keep your eyes on what Mazda do I feel it will be a guide as to what Abarth will be doing. I expect a hard top 124 to be announced next year once they have had the soft top out for a year like Mazda have done.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on April 21, 2016, 04:29:15 pm
So is the Abarth 124 made and finished on the Mazda assembly line?
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: PORTHOS on April 21, 2016, 05:05:30 pm
So is the Abarth 124 made and finished on the Mazda assembly line?

I'm not 100% sure if it's finished in Hiroshima with the Abarth trims etc, but I think it is, if it's not that might explain why it's so expensive. Fiat Ships the MultiAir over there so it most likely is all finished over there. Which I think is great news btw, Japanese build quality is superb.

The MX-5 Brembo Recaro edition has the exact same set up as the Abarth 124 with the Bilstein's and Brembo's etc. it really is very closely tied in with the MX-5 at the moment.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: PORTHOS on April 21, 2016, 05:12:49 pm
Just found this: They say it's shipped out of Japan to Turin, then finished there..... that WOULD explain the price.

http://www.motoringnetwork.com/news/abarth/fiat-abarth-124-for-nz/
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: fpan on April 22, 2016, 09:00:52 am
Just found this: They say it's shipped out of Japan to Turin, then finished there..... that WOULD explain the price.

http://www.motoringnetwork.com/news/abarth/fiat-abarth-124-for-nz/

That's for the Abarth version though only, not every 124?

Whatever it is it's madness IMHO but only sales will tell.

I would have thought sending a team of Italians in Japan would be cheaper than having the car travel half the globe  ???
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Brian1612 on April 22, 2016, 09:25:00 am
I love the look of the car but the performance is pathetic. I think personally, you would have to be stupid to pay what they are asking for one.

It had to have a sub 6s 0-62 to make some sense but 170 bhp and a 6.8s to 62 is laughable. 
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: fpan on April 22, 2016, 11:03:32 am
I love the look of the car but the performance is pathetic. I think personally, you would have to be stupid to pay what they are asking for one.

It had to have a sub 6s 0-62 to make some sense but 170 bhp and a 6.8s to 62 is laughable.

Indeed for £30k + I wouldn't even look at it. There are so many other cars out there.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: sandys on April 22, 2016, 01:48:52 pm
It will all come down to how it drives, paper stats can’t tell you everything about a car, Pistonheads just proved that to me with the M4 GTS lap of Combe they have on their site, 500bhp, massive Pilot sport Cup 2 rubber, they show the driver doing ~4 second a lap quicker than what I can do at Combe in my MX5 on road tyres and it looked a handful, like he was trying, too much weight, if I had half that power and sticky tyres I’d smash that, I could probably get close just running the same tyre.

The 124 will have reasonable power for its weights and its chassis balance shouldn’t be underestimated, I’ve not got around to testing my SS up against my Mazda at the same venue but even though the Mazda feels gutless I think the SS would struggle to match the 5 around a technical lap, and it can barely crack 60 in 8s.

all told though if the price is to be that much higher the 124 needs to offer another level of performance to the Mazda not broadly the same, can’t see it doing that without the 1.7 Tbi.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Bristol_Rich on April 25, 2016, 11:27:45 am
I’ve not got around to testing my SS up against my Mazda at the same venue but even though the Mazda feels gutless I think the SS would struggle to match the 5 around a technical lap, and it can barely crack 60 in 8s.

Results from Prescott Hill Climb yesterday pretty much confirm what you have said...

Off the line the 500 is typically quickest to 64ft and passing the first speed trap at a consistently clinical 56mph.  However by halfway its loosing out a second or two with the quickest 500SS being 3.5 secs behind the lead MX5 at the finish.

Obvious different drivers, etc but on comparison of the results they show that whilst the 500 is making up time between the timing points, it is being lost on the more techincal bits.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: PORTHOS on April 25, 2016, 12:21:54 pm
And it all comes down to ........ which car is the most agile with the power.

The Abarth 500ss is 100kg heavier than the new MX-5 (ND).... the new 124 Abarth is already 60kg heavier than the MX-5.

The 500 also has that VERY annoying TCS system that cuts the power, on a hill climb it takes away roughly 2 seconds.

I'm helping record some Hillclimbing next weekend as it goes, 180 comp vs biposto  :whistle:
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: sandys on April 25, 2016, 01:03:46 pm
If its Werrington, I'll there too, number 26, in my MX5 though :P  first time for me.  :o

I did think I should be running my Punto when I saw the Abarths on the entry list.

Never found TC to be too much of an issue on the APESS except for when running on loose surface stuff (gravel/mud)
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: sandys on April 25, 2016, 01:21:20 pm
I’ve not got around to testing my SS up against my Mazda at the same venue but even though the Mazda feels gutless I think the SS would struggle to match the 5 around a technical lap, and it can barely crack 60 in 8s.

Results from Prescott Hill Climb yesterday pretty much confirm what you have said...

Off the line the 500 is typically quickest to 64ft and passing the first speed trap at a consistently clinical 56mph.  However by halfway its loosing out a second or two with the quickest 500SS being 3.5 secs behind the lead MX5 at the finish.

Obvious different drivers, etc but on comparison of the results they show that whilst the 500 is making up time between the timing points, it is being lost on the more techincal bits.

its really hard to tell, it would be very course dependent too, without same drivers also, at Castle Combe Sprint in March, I was 4 secs clear of much more powerful MX5s in a group of 15, its my local track, so know it well (but still made mistakes) quicker than elises and Clios which surprised me, and I was on normal road rubber struggling for grip :D

The APE might be better suited to some that a 500 with its short snappy 6 speed and the torque out of corners, 500 gearing can be a bit long, my MX5 suffers from this with its 5spd at some venues, I just don't have the right ratio in the box to fire out of some tight corners where the APE would be like an exocet :D
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: sandys on April 25, 2016, 02:07:41 pm
Just had a look at the Prescott results, did you compete in that one yourself?

The MX5 that appears to have been quickest was Shaun West, a red Mk3 BBR Super 200, so wouldn’t feel so bad, basically my car on steroids and with a 6 spd box, so it should shift, he was struggling with it at the Great Western Sprint, I was 8s ahead of him, I wonder if he took my setup info I shared on the forum after combe?
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: PORTHOS on April 25, 2016, 03:02:14 pm
If its Werrington, I'll there too, number 26, in my MX5 though :P  first time for me.  :o

I did think I should be running my Punto when I saw the Abarths on the entry list.

Never found TC to be too much of an issue on the APESS except for when running on loose surface stuff (gravel/mud)

Oh nice one! You wont miss me I'll be in a PINK High Vis (yes really) with a beard along the track at various stages, lol.
Good luck! Will see if I can get some shots of you on the hill with my still camera :)

I can't forget the number.... 26, it's my birthday tomorrow, ha ha. :thumb:

Not competed by the way, been thinking about it but my back has other ideas, I'll prob be sitting most of the day on a shooting stick taking pics ha ha.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: sandys on April 25, 2016, 04:42:50 pm
Good stuff  :thumb: I no doubt have a nose around the Abarths between runs.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: John501 on April 27, 2016, 11:50:39 am
You should of said Sandys, You could of entered into the Abarth invitational class  :wave:
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: sandys on April 27, 2016, 02:00:09 pm
Another time, I am doing the Hillclimb and Sprint Association Championship in the MX5 class, so can't really change cars as I need the points.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Trooper on April 27, 2016, 06:54:37 pm
I'm on the look out for a new car that will be purely for fun 8)
And the spider does interest me but with that price tag I'm afraid it's not really a conteder  :thumbd:
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Conor1939 on April 29, 2016, 03:32:18 pm
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/fiat-announces-pricing-for-all-new-2017-124-spider-300259993.html

Apparently US pricing will be $28,000 for the Abarth version, works out at about £20,000. Seems a bit unfair that we'd have to pay £30k for ten more horsepower...
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: PORTHOS on April 29, 2016, 05:06:33 pm
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/fiat-announces-pricing-for-all-new-2017-124-spider-300259993.html

Apparently US pricing will be $28,000 for the Abarth version, works out at about £20,000. Seems a bit unfair that we'd have to pay £30k for ten more horsepower...

Hoping once they get these Ltd edition plaque ones out the way they might drop the price down.

Not holding my breath though.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on April 29, 2016, 10:27:39 pm
i think maby abarths got abit greedy.

speaking to sales man in research he said..."if you price up the parts individual like the lsd youl see why it mounts up to that much"..so in his opinion its a fair price. don't know if  it was sales talk though :whistle:
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on April 30, 2016, 11:27:32 am
It's always been the sum of the parts is more than the whole.

Sales speak :whistle:
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: flutes on April 30, 2016, 01:23:26 pm
In Australia we are only getting the Abarth, and not the 124. Apparently they didn't want to compete with the MX5 with the 124. Still no word on pricing, but speculation has been at around $40k. That would make £30k seem way overpriced.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on April 30, 2016, 07:14:36 pm
Lol true. I guess you have an original stunning 124?by your pic?what do you think of the new one owning the original?:)
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Post by: 124Abarthreplica on April 30, 2016, 07:34:35 pm
Lol true. I guess you have an original stunning 124?by your pic?what do you think of the new one owning the original?:)

I've got a truly stunning 124 AC Coupe but my red 124 spider is just a tatty runabout although I intend to make the blue one into a replica.

I do enjoy driving the 124 spider and being LHD adds to the fun but I have not managed to drive the new one or a MX5.  Maybe soon. :thumb:

Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: jonscz on July 09, 2016, 09:41:09 pm
Hi and sorry to slightly hijack this page, but '124Abarthreplica' I have just sent you a PM which is relevant to this thread.
I hope you can see the message.
This is my 1st activity on here (but I've been an active 'Pistonheads member' for 12 years) and I have joined to keep up to date with the 124 Abarth as I am seriously considering one.
Looking forward to seeing more threads as the availability date gets closer.
Cheers,
Jon
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: morte on July 19, 2016, 10:00:55 am
I have placed my order! It was built a week ago and should be heading for Turin soon. I won't see it till October though.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Brian1612 on July 19, 2016, 12:50:26 pm
Heading to Turin? Is it true they are built in Japan and shipped to Italy for all the Abarth bits then? Heard that is part of the high cost.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: morte on July 19, 2016, 01:41:34 pm
Apparently yes, there's a video that explains it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3KRLuJHGWU

It is indeed expensive and I was so tempted to take the Fiat route, which in  my book is it's only real rival (I only every buy Alfas, Fiats, Lancias and Abarths for myself). But, based on my previous behavior, I'm pretty confident that every time I saw an Abarth I'd wish I'd bought one and would end up changing it 1 year in.  I'd  also considered keeping my Brera and spending 20K on a classic, but I've done that before and end up not using them. So, by my standards, this is a pretty sensible choice.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Brian1612 on July 20, 2016, 01:08:34 pm
You may well be the first owner of one on here Morte. Can't wait to the photo's! :) Take many and upload them when she arrives.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Brian1612 on July 20, 2016, 02:57:27 pm
Interesting to watch that and hear they are only making 2'500 of these models in it's first year of life. His answer to the question what happens the 2500? 'Ahhhh... We shall see'.

I think there is definitely a more powerful, more hardcore esseesse model (2.0L - 220bhp) coming and I can't wait for that.
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Post by: morte on July 20, 2016, 03:33:48 pm
They won't even need to go to 2.0L to go for a hardcore version,  if they want 250HP,  they'll just drop in the 1750 from the 4C and Giulietta if they want 250HP. I think 190-200hp is more likely, and they can get that from the 1.4 if they want to. It'll probably depend on how much the gearbox and diff are designed to take.
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Post by: Brian1612 on July 20, 2016, 03:55:41 pm
More likely the 2.0L lump Morte. They already have one designed and built for the car within the rally 124 running 300bhp. Have heard from a very good source that it is likely to happen with the hard top upgrade. Price will be an interesting one mind. 
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Post by: morte on July 20, 2016, 04:46:11 pm
Really? That sounds mad, but in a good way. I wonder how much they'll charge for that?? Upwards of 40K I expect.
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Post by: A64RTH on July 20, 2016, 09:55:55 pm
The 300bhp Rally would be something, but I thought there was the whole joint partnership thing between Mazda and Fiat where the wouldn't make a production car than was significantly more powerful than the Mx-5?

I mean part of me agrees with lots of folks here that Abarth's generally have enough Bhp and are fast enough... I'm not denying that they are great fun, honestly I'd struggle to part with mine but part of me does want to buy into a proper thoroughbred, quality Italian brand (for reasonable money). They're not cheap although I think they're pretty reasonable, particularly second hand. I do think quality has to improve just a little and hopefully we'll see that on the series 4 595 and 124. I also feel that "performance" wise Abarths are found wanting without mods compared to the competition's price tag or not much more than your top spec comp/124.. Such as golf r/RS/135i/S3 Alpha are on the move with the 500bhp Giulia, and talk of a formula 1 team next year, yes it's £50,000+ but begins to menace the Deutsche autobahn stormers. For me I'd like to see a 300+ bhp hard top for ~£40,000, oh and a add a F1 Abarth team to the list,  pigs might fly...
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Trooper on July 21, 2016, 05:52:06 am
Alfa not Alpha  :P

Sorry one of my pet hates!
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Brian1612 on July 21, 2016, 12:45:35 pm
No mention of 300 bhp. All I know is it was touted at at least 220 bhp. It could be a special edition much like the Biposto and cost ridiculous money though knowing Abarth. I would happily spend 35-40k on a 124 if it was running enough power to give it a low 5s 0-62 time. Guess we will just have to wait and see, curious to know if the series 4 Abarth will get any more than the 180 bhp as it travels through it's model life.
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Post by: PORTHOS on July 21, 2016, 12:51:18 pm
I'll just leave this here.......

(http://i1.wp.com/autoblog.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/ABARTH-WAINBERG-8.jpg)
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Original Username on July 22, 2016, 05:32:08 am
I put my deposit down about a month ago an the Abarth. Heard from the dealer this week that production was on schedule and expect delivery into Australia mid-late next month.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Brian1612 on July 22, 2016, 12:53:06 pm
I'll just leave this here.......

(http://i1.wp.com/autoblog.com.ar/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/ABARTH-WAINBERG-8.jpg)

Looks like the same artist of the A124 render that turned out to be very close to the real thing...  :whistle:
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: PORTHOS on July 22, 2016, 01:16:49 pm
Ha ha, it is indeed the same guy and interestingly it's got all the right details added on to be a more recent sketch than the original concept he did which turned out to be the actual car.

This could be a clue to a more powerful version coming next year... or it could just be another sketch of the rally car..... either way, I need that in my life, lol.

I put my deposit down about a month ago an the Abarth. Heard from the dealer this week that production was on schedule and expect delivery into Australia mid-late next month.

Awesome! What colour?
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Post by: 124Abarthreplica on July 22, 2016, 01:59:14 pm
After my unimpressive drive at Goodwood in the Abarth 124 auto, I'm torn between getting a Fiat 124 Lusso Plus and the Abarth 124 :thumbd:
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Brian1612 on July 22, 2016, 03:32:37 pm
Get a shot of a manual and your mind will be changed quickly. All the reviews have pointed out how much better the car is in manual form compared to some of the auto test cars Abarth sent out. Porthos, I see that in the photo. Essentially the new 124 with what looks like larger wheel arches, a more aggressive front bumper. Obviously the hard top is added (as we suspected) and a big bloody wing on it. I get the feeling this is going to end up a Biposto type 124 and might be fairly expensive. Still excited even if I may not be able to afford one! ;)
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Original Username on July 25, 2016, 12:48:11 am
I put my deposit down about a month ago an the Abarth. Heard from the dealer this week that production was on schedule and expect delivery into Australia mid-late next month.

Awesome! What colour?

Black with matte black bonnet & boot.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: PORTHOS on July 25, 2016, 10:40:18 am
I put my deposit down about a month ago an the Abarth. Heard from the dealer this week that production was on schedule and expect delivery into Australia mid-late next month.

Awesome! What colour?

Black with matte black bonnet & boot.

Excellent :D That's the one I'd have, can't wait to see it!
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: jonscz on July 28, 2016, 06:20:34 pm
Just updating this thread - I have now placed an order, too.....  :thumb:
Thanks to Ayjay at Thames Fiat Slough.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Original Username on July 29, 2016, 12:35:31 am
Just updating this thread - I have now placed an order, too.....  :thumb:
Thanks to Ayjay at Thames Fiat Slough.

Congratulations! Which configuration/colour?
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: jonscz on July 29, 2016, 08:03:19 am
Thanks for that.
It's in the same colours as the one used in most of the advertising - in (as my wife calls it..!) 'mid-life-crisis' white with black bonnet and with the Bose and Visibility packs. Can't wait till September now.....
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Post by: Original Username on July 31, 2016, 03:18:55 am
(as my wife calls it..!) 'mid-life-crisis'

I like that description - they should put that in the brochures! I would have got that configuration too but my wife already has a black and white Abarth 500 and I'm not ready to be one of those 'matching tracksuit' couples just yet.
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: jonscz on July 31, 2016, 08:05:10 am
Cheers...
Yours is a great colour combo....I assume you've seen the black/matt black, but there aren't too many pics around, so for anyone else....
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Post by: jonscz on July 31, 2016, 09:15:14 am
sorry, I couldn't re-edit my post, so here's the other pic I was going to add to my previous post -
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: Original Username on August 02, 2016, 12:03:04 am
sorry, I couldn't re-edit my post, so here's the other pic I was going to add to my previous post -
Haven't seen that pic before. Nice. :D
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: morte on August 04, 2016, 09:45:29 am
Mine is grey/black with all the bits and bobs. All we need now is a red one and a blue on and we'll the set on here in October.
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Post by: SloppySue on August 04, 2016, 07:08:00 pm
I think after Sunday, I may be closer to putting an order in  :whistle:
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on August 29, 2016, 12:08:32 pm
After many years of on/offs and maybes',  the nuova 124 Spider in Fiat and Abarth flavours should  be in the showrooms in the coming 2 weeks.

Exciting times :thumb:
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Post by: PORTHOS on August 29, 2016, 04:16:13 pm
Can't wait :) Should be driving them both. Definitely waiting for a coupe though, timing should be perfect :)
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on August 29, 2016, 04:55:00 pm
I've been looking at cheaper Z4s' recently, anyone had one? :whistle:
Title: Re: Anyone ordered 1?or thinking about it?
Post by: sandys on August 31, 2016, 07:16:05 pm
Test drove a newer z4 with folding hard top, it was really quite good, Just something about it I couldn't quite put my finger on stopped me from buying, has happened a lot recently to be fair.
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Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on September 04, 2016, 04:15:23 pm
Cant wait to see the fiat and abarth 124 in the showrooms soon.il be heading down to have a nosey :)