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Offline Explicitmata

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After recent discussions with different people, I'm interested to hear from anyone who has tried both, or who has had any kind of experience with both K&N & BMC Panel Filters.

If K&N are better/louder/less restrictive then how come SuperSport's use BMC's?

If BMC's are better/louder/less restrictive then I'm a happy chappy cause I've just spend £50 on one through Fiat all the way from Italy thinking it was better than the K&N because it's a non oiled filter which is surely better for the engine/turbo?. (Am I wrong?)

Any other Panel filter discussion is welcome as I'd love to hear people's opinions and experience!

Thanks, Olly.

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    Re: Panel Filters - What sounds better/which is louder K&N or BMC?
    « Reply #1 on: August 20, 2014, 06:11:08 pm »
    Having just had a supersport out on loan when my evo was being serviced I can say you can definitely hear the BMC over the normal one and you can hear the turbo flutter more!

    I'm unsure whether to just change to the BMC or else do a full kit

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    Re: Panel Filters - What sounds better/which is louder K&N or BMC?
    « Reply #2 on: August 20, 2014, 06:18:13 pm »
    Having just had a supersport out on loan when my evo was being serviced I can say you can definitely hear the BMC over the normal one and you can hear the turbo flutter more!

    I'm unsure whether to just change to the BMC or else do a full kit

    Is this when inside the car that you notice a significant difference? with the windows down or up for example? Cause I'd love to hear it every time I push it a little bit and when coming off the accelerator, it would be so satisfying... :whistle:... from inside the car I mean instead of just giving it a rev whilst stationary. I'm hoping because I have the 135bhp Sporting there's a similar increase in turbo noise. It's a Garrett turbo just like the Abarths so I don't see why it wouldn't. I'll find out tomorrow when it's fitted I guess, just an impatient so n' so.

    I'd say stick to the BMC panel and think about the air box modifications mentioned in previous posts here instead. Seems to generate similar sounds whilst ensuring cold air feed to the engine/turbo a lot better that the cone filters do (without new air ducts fitted). Seems like a fail-proof/cheaper way of achieving the same outcome as the cone filters.
    « Last Edit: August 20, 2014, 06:20:52 pm by Explicitmata »

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    Re: Panel Filters - What sounds better/which is louder K&N or BMC?
    « Reply #3 on: August 20, 2014, 06:35:52 pm »
    Oh you can definitely hear that and the exhaust way more from inside the car!

    The cones and inductions just look so good though!

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    Re: Panel Filters - What sounds better/which is louder K&N or BMC?
    « Reply #4 on: August 20, 2014, 06:42:19 pm »
    Oh you can definitely hear that and the exhaust way more from inside the car!

    The cones and inductions just look so good though!

    Okay, now I have some solid reasoning to be happy I've bought the BMC for a good reason, so thanks!  :thumb:

    Can you hear the turbo flutter and dump a lot more than the standard Abarth, or does it just change the engine note in your opinion?

    They do, I agree, But you only ever see it when you open the bonnet. So ask yourself, is it worth the extra £££?
    If you answer your own question as "yes" then there's only one thing for it, buy a nice big induction kit.  :devil:

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    Re: Panel Filters - What sounds better/which is louder K&N or BMC?
    « Reply #5 on: August 20, 2014, 06:44:54 pm »
    BMC is going to be a good option like, can hear both a lot more in my opinion with it.

    A nice big induction kit could be on the table... Need opinions on them though

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    Re: Panel Filters - What sounds better/which is louder K&N or BMC?
    « Reply #6 on: August 20, 2014, 10:56:38 pm »
    Itg is another option that's what am using, tried the bmc induction and had it on about 2 hours and took it off :-/

    I actually modded my air box this afternoon by opening the upper pipe feed to allow more air to be drawer in rather than allowing it to finds its way down a small open ended pipe.
    « Last Edit: August 20, 2014, 10:59:21 pm by dixy »

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    Re: Panel Filters - What sounds better/which is louder K&N or BMC?
    « Reply #7 on: August 20, 2014, 11:11:37 pm »
    Itg is another option that's what am using, tried the bmc induction and had it on about 2 hours and took it off :-/

    I actually modded my air box this afternoon by opening the upper pipe feed to allow more air to be drawer in rather than allowing it to finds its way down a small open ended pipe.

    Interesting sounding mod, could you provide some more detail/pictures of the mod?

    Thanks, Olly.

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    Re: Panel Filters - What sounds better/which is louder K&N or BMC?
    « Reply #8 on: August 20, 2014, 11:16:29 pm »
    Olly,
    I only thought about pics after I put it all back together, it is easy.  Firstly take the air box lid off, turn it upside down and look in, you will see a trumpet attached to the intake pipe I cut a section out to allow more air to feed into the pipe.  Hopefully when you open it you'll see what I mean ;-)

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    Re: Panel Filters - What sounds better/which is louder K&N or BMC?
    « Reply #9 on: August 20, 2014, 11:23:13 pm »
    Olly,
    I only thought about pics after I put it all back together, it is easy.  Firstly take the air box lid off, turn it upside down and look in, you will see a trumpet attached to the intake pipe I cut a section out to allow more air to feed into the pipe.  Hopefully when you open it you'll see what I mean ;-)

    When you trumpet do you mean the plastic insert? because I understand that once air has been brought up through the pipe, into the box, the only place for it to go then is through the filter and into the turbo's turbine.

    I'm not sure where the section would be cut is all...  :whistle:

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    Re: Panel Filters - What sounds better/which is louder K&N or BMC?
    « Reply #10 on: August 20, 2014, 11:28:34 pm »
    Lol it is the insert I basically looked at it and thought the air is trying to get down the end of this pipe to the turbo, so I sliced this to make the opening bigger allowing the air to get down quicker my thoughts are only to help the air flow :-) lol

    I'll take it off again tomorrow when time allows and put a pic up ;-)

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    Re: Panel Filters - What sounds better/which is louder K&N or BMC?
    « Reply #11 on: August 20, 2014, 11:34:02 pm »
    Lol it is the insert I basically looked at it and thought the air is trying to get down the end of this pipe to the turbo, so I sliced this to make the opening bigger allowing the air to get down quicker my thoughts are only to help the air flow :-) lol

    I'll take it off again tomorrow when time allows and put a pic up ;-)

    Ohh okay, well a picture would certainly clarify my thoughts of what you've said so far!  :thumb:

    I'm a newbie at this stuff as this is my first car, as you can tell haha!

    But thanks mate that would really be appreciated! I'll look forward to seeing the pics.  :thumb:
    Post it on this thread if you could so I can find it easily, thanks again!

    Olly.

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    Re: Panel Filters - What sounds better/which is louder K&N or BMC?
    « Reply #12 on: August 20, 2014, 11:38:25 pm »
    Olly
    No sweat mate, first car ? Well suppose my wife took our Abarth 500ss on after passing her test we had two abarths sitting here but it's gone now as she wouldn't pay the high tax band only me now with the APE ;-) but am sure she'd have another given half a chance lol.

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    Re: Panel Filters - What sounds better/which is louder K&N or BMC?
    « Reply #13 on: August 21, 2014, 12:14:58 am »
    Olly
    No sweat mate, first car ? Well suppose my wife took our Abarth 500ss on after passing her test we had two abarths sitting here but it's gone now as she wouldn't pay the high tax band only me now with the APE ;-) but am sure she'd have another given half a chance lol.

    Yeah, I just wish is was an Abarth! unfortunately it's only the 135bhp sporting but I can't complain! Damn, you lucky man! would be great to choose between the two depending on the drive ahead!

    I'd really love to drive an Abarth, just to see the difference between mine and the legend!

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    Re: Panel Filters - What sounds better/which is louder K&N or BMC?
    « Reply #14 on: August 21, 2014, 12:45:14 pm »
    Well for noise and smiles it was always the 500 I loved it tmc induction box and rear back box the burble was epic and the pops and bangs caught many people out ;-)
    The APE sounds class it also pops but not at lower speeds ;-)