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Offline dan vbv

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Re: APE SS - Target 230 - 250BHP - how ?
« Reply #30 on: July 03, 2012, 06:03:52 pm »
For myself the amount of BHP a car has doesn't really matter. My preference if I could afford such a luxury would be to get the car with the best BHP per ton.

I like the Colin Chapman ethos of 'adding Lightness' to cars. If the EVO, or the AGP's for that matter, were sub 1ton they'd be awesome. A 200BHP car that weights less than a ton is pretty bloody good.

Give me a Caterham R400 any day, rather than a 2 ton 400 BHP monstrosity.

But that's my opion of course  :thumb:


would you not rather have a 400bhp caterham 7   :thumb: :whistle: i know i would  but i am abit insain and want the 1000hp busa v8 in a caterham 7  ::) :thumb: :whistle: ;D ;D ;D
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    Re: APE SS - Target 230 - 250BHP - how ?
    « Reply #31 on: July 03, 2012, 06:13:05 pm »
    Option A sounds reasonable I'll probably look at that option for myself plus some good rubber and leave it like that.

    Its nice to have a target like 230-250 as you can ask what is required to achieve it and work towards it, Gtech seem to manage this on the Evo with mods mentioned plus intercooler, think its pretty much just intake/exhaust/cat, high fuel pressure and some chip tuning, seem to recall that the stock turbo outlet is modified?

    added lightness is probably handy, in my case the driver could loose 70kgs  :-[ :whistle: that would help.  ;D

    Oh and you definitely want more power in a Caterham, I rented one for a trackday once and found it pretty dull with  140bhp.
    « Last Edit: July 03, 2012, 06:25:33 pm by sandys »

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    Re: APE SS - Target 230 - 250BHP - how ?
    « Reply #32 on: July 03, 2012, 06:52:19 pm »
    You'll be wanting a proper Caterham next time..... ;)

    Now, where's that topic again?!

     ;D

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    Re: APE SS - Target 230 - 250BHP - how ?
    « Reply #33 on: July 03, 2012, 07:46:34 pm »
    I people are mis understanding my original post.
    I asked how it can be done or indeed if it can be done. Now obviously it seems that maybe I was aiming a little high so my mods will be limited to TMC or remap, induction kit and maybe a custom exhaust.

    I am not interested in spending unlimited money and I am fully aware about alternatives such as Focus ST RS and Megans etc (both were test drove by me and both felt extremely bland).

    I just simply wanted some advice being told to look at another car certainly is not advice.
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    Re: APE SS - Target 230 - 250BHP - how ?
    « Reply #34 on: July 03, 2012, 07:50:51 pm »
    If you look at my post, you'd see the options, really ;)
    Depends a bit on budget too though :thumb:

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    Re: APE SS - Target 230 - 250BHP - how ?
    « Reply #35 on: July 03, 2012, 08:02:43 pm »
    I will TMC it first but I am thinking of a custom exhaust at some point.
    I have race cats on the beemer and they made a huge difference in both power and torque so its something I am gonna look at.
    I want an induction kit as hopefully it will allow me to hear the turbo chatter like A500  ;)

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    Re: APE SS - Target 230 - 250BHP - how ?
    « Reply #36 on: July 03, 2012, 08:29:57 pm »
    My little Beamer liked the installation of a race cat too (100 cell).

    Be careful though as they will change emissions quite a bit though.
    If you are at it, you should also install a temp gauge for the exhaust gas temp :thumb:
    (Important for remapped turbos).

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    Re: APE SS - Target 230 - 250BHP - how ?
    « Reply #37 on: July 03, 2012, 10:21:09 pm »


    Also I find reading your posts slightly irritating.
    Not only that the typos are utterly strange (want > what, has > as), but it also appears (might not be the case) that you seem to be quite aggressive about it (I might be wrong, as it's difficult to read between the lines...)

    Sorry I don't mean to come across this way at all, so about the miss types I'm w*nk at spelling and grammar,
    I was just saying I find it hard to believe, I have never meet anyone from this forum, would be nice but I'll think I'll pass.


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    Re: APE SS - Target 230 - 250BHP - how ?
    « Reply #38 on: July 03, 2012, 10:24:48 pm »
    don't pass on it, people seem to get on fine in real life, so many times the wrong impression is gained from impersonal communications on line :thumb:

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    Re: APE SS - Target 230 - 250BHP - how ?
    « Reply #39 on: July 03, 2012, 10:44:40 pm »
    No worries x18 ;)
    Hence why I said it appears...

    I know how difficult it sometimes is to read how things are meant, if one doesn't know each other :thumb:
    (you should make it to a meet one time)

    I am the most critical if it concerns some weird or over optimistic performance figures, but in Ash's case they seem to be very true :thumb:

    To go back to the topic:
    I think it can be nicely summarised that the Evo can be easily modified to somewhere between 200 and 220bhp.
    Everything over will compromise the long term quality of the car or will cost more than most of the Evo drivers seem to be prepared to pay.

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    Re: APE SS - Target 230 - 250BHP - how ?
    « Reply #40 on: July 04, 2012, 01:59:30 am »
    My little Beamer liked the installation of a race cat too (100 cell).

    Be careful though as they will change emissions quite a bit though.
    If you are at it, you should also install a temp gauge for the exhaust gas temp :thumb:
    (Important for remapped turbos).

    My M5 was tuned by Evolve and included a full stainless system with equal length headers and custom remapping software including removing the MAFS and going AlphaN among many many other mods.

    Not a lot left to do other than supercharge it but that will take it to over 600bhp and that, frankly would be ridiculas.
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    Re: APE SS - Target 230 - 250BHP - how ?
    « Reply #41 on: May 19, 2013, 01:26:56 am »
    You Limeys are all hung up over these silly piggy back boxes huh?   ;D
    We get your APE powerplant in our North American A500's.

    The biggest issue is gaining full ECU access in which we are 99% there!
    Stay tuned.

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    Re: APE SS - Target 230 - 250BHP - how ?
    « Reply #42 on: May 19, 2013, 09:32:42 am »
    A number of people remap the stock ECU on Mito/APE already, the issue is they don't seem to be able to get it over 200bhp, not sure why, but you can get over 200 with a box. Maybe the Americans will try harder, not much interest in the engine in the UK from tuners.