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Offline DTPnorfolk

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Forge Motorsport Evo Development
« on: August 06, 2012, 10:42:36 am »
My APE is at Forge Motorsport at the moment have some parts developed for it.

They are going to be developing an intercooler, induction, BOV, actuator, hoses etc but can you guys think of anything they can look at developing whilst they have the car?
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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #1 on: August 06, 2012, 10:54:23 am »
    Don't they already have an intercooler or is the AGP one different to the APE?

    I'll certainly be interested in hearing about the quality of the parts and the respective performance gains.

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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #2 on: August 06, 2012, 12:59:50 pm »
    Just seen the pictures of it they posted up  :thumb:

    Those things they are developing are the usual things they will look at developing on a car I think anything else they wouldn't do, I know you want them to do as many things as possible as you get the developed parts for free :thumb:

    They were also asking for an A500 the other day I'm sure I saw as they wanted to make an actuator for it.
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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #3 on: August 06, 2012, 02:57:41 pm »
    Forge already do an actuator and inter cooler for the A500... I'd be surprised if they are planning anything new.
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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #4 on: August 06, 2012, 08:22:25 pm »
    They asked me to post on here to see if you guys had any suggestions.

    The intercooler may be the same but they've never had an EVO to try it on.

    I'll keep you all posted on the progress and performance gains. My APE ran 171bhp on the dyno running normal fuel. I'm hoping for 10-15bhp extra. Is that hoping for too much?
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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #5 on: August 06, 2012, 08:53:43 pm »
    Thats not bad, I was running Tescos Finest for my dyno runs which'll make a difference. They had no problems running it then in the end.

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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #6 on: August 07, 2012, 11:27:11 am »
    Yeah I'm happy with 171. It's still better than it should be.  ;D
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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #7 on: August 07, 2012, 11:47:17 am »
    Did you get a print out of power and torque as obviously some of their mods will improve the torque curve particularly in the midrange rather than out right power.

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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #8 on: August 07, 2012, 12:36:27 pm »
    Did you get a print out of power and torque as obviously some of their mods will improve the torque curve particularly in the midrange rather than out right power.

    Yep:

    « Last Edit: August 07, 2012, 12:41:14 pm by DTPnorfolk »
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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #9 on: August 07, 2012, 12:59:26 pm »
    Your wobbly torque curve (3.2k -4.5k) looks similar to mine with SS map, on my stock run it held nice and flat, well gradually increasing through that range but nice an smooth, no doubt the better fuel helping out here, can't imagine Abarth recommend 98RON for nothing.

    be interesting to see impact of your mods to the car, hopefully they can show impact of cooling and also what sort of boost you can hold with actuator mod, though I guess you would need remap for advantage there.
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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #10 on: August 07, 2012, 01:05:25 pm »
    What is the time frame for the work?

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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #11 on: August 07, 2012, 03:06:56 pm »
    I get it back next weekend. For now I'm in a 1.3 S-Reg Auto Micra  :thumbd:

    After this I may get a TMC box and then call it quits. I don't want more than 200bhp as the car isn't dynamically capable of having much more.

    My next focus will be suspension and possibly brakes but the stock Brembos are pretty solid.
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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #12 on: August 07, 2012, 03:30:18 pm »
    Car is plenty capable once you have done the suspension. Stock brakes are up to the job, they are very good.

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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #13 on: August 07, 2012, 05:16:38 pm »
    Yeah suspension I think is a must. The car is good as standard but from what I hear the SS versions are much better. And they look better with the slight drop in height.

    I'm happy not to have massive power gains. A bit more grunt and a bit more sound will suit me fine.

    How are you getting on with your Konis after the upgrade?
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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #14 on: August 07, 2012, 05:50:34 pm »
    No complaints on the suspension side… well that is not strictly true, I will never be happy, it’s in my nature to always want more :D

    The Koni SS setup is a great improvement on standard, the ride remains compliant even with 18s and firms up nicely on cornering, it does not cut out roll completely but tidies up body control, perhaps even feels a little softer, less accurate on its initial turn in perhaps but despite its softness it works well on track, Cadwell park was a bit of a revelation on that score, whereas I was doing a lot of butt clenching and backing off when the car was stock, I had no trouble dealing with Coppice flatout (when the guys in front weren’t braking on me ) or doing the gooseneck where the rear felt loose stock, but on SS kit it was as if it was not even there, just another bend.

    I was very impressed with it, back of my mind I do wonder if Bilsteins or KW V3 would be better in that I would have a consistent feel as sometimes I feel the car can be a bit vague on initial turn in due to the Koni dual nature and just take it on faith it’ll firm up and hold the line, which it always does, can seem a bit unnatural though, but I know that with the mileage and bumpy A/B roads I drive on coilovers would hack me off in no time particularly after a hard day when I am perhaps not 100%, one days driving of our SLK reminds me of that, it’s a jiggly mess on a pothole Wiltshire road, so whilst I think I want superfirm coilovers in reality I have probably the best compromise on the car.
    « Last Edit: August 07, 2012, 05:52:19 pm by sandys »

     

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