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Offline DTPnorfolk

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Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2012, 06:52:04 pm »
I agree, I think coliovers would be too extreme for daily use and that is exactly what my APE is, a daily car. Also despite the Forge parts, I'd like to use as many OEM parts as possible and maybe build the car up to SS spec as I already have the SS wheels.
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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #16 on: August 14, 2012, 11:01:40 pm »
    Car is plenty capable once you have done the suspension. Stock brakes are up to the job, they are very good.

    I may be mad but I'm thinking of having the EsseEsse kit fitted to my APE if a chunk of money I'm hoping for comes through. As you've had a stock APE and now have the SS I have another question. Is there any noticeable difference in the exhaust?
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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #17 on: August 14, 2012, 11:02:49 pm »
    it sounds meaner, from an outsiders point of view :thumb:

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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #18 on: August 14, 2012, 11:21:26 pm »
    Its sounds a bit more purposeful, its still very restrained though, it does not suddenly embody the car with the sort of exhaust hijinks that the A500 has, I like it, no boominess to it at all, just a nicer lower rpm rumble, a number of colleagues have mentioned how it sounds like a much bigger car than it is.

    Its probably not the greatest quality, like the standard exhaust, you have to work hard to keep the tips clean and rust free, a rub down with ACF50 helps though takes the shine off.

    With the work you are doing a custom  stainless job and decat would probably be the thing to look at maintaining larger bore/better flow from turbo back to help the overall breathing ability.

    If you get the SS kit for a good price its worth having, though you have the SS wheel which is a big part of the kit.
    « Last Edit: August 14, 2012, 11:31:27 pm by sandys »

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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #19 on: August 14, 2012, 11:37:53 pm »
    If you get the SS kit for a good price its worth having, though you have the SS wheel which is a big part of the kit.

    That's kinda what I'm thinking. Keep my wheels and flog the new ones. The Konis and springs are over £600 so if I can get a good deal on the whole kit then it may be 'good value'. Either that or buy some Bilsteins and a Titanium system  :whistle:
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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #20 on: August 14, 2012, 11:40:42 pm »
    buy a white wheel kit, easy to sell the wheels :thumb:

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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #21 on: August 14, 2012, 11:54:02 pm »
    buy a white wheel kit, easy to sell the wheels :thumb:

    I would have thought the Titanium would be more popular!?
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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #22 on: August 15, 2012, 12:04:19 am »
    Can't see why, they just look dirty and you can't see the design of the alloy that well due to being darker, like those people who go for black alloys what's the point in that, nice flash alloys you can't even see  :P ;) ;D 

    I should watch what I say with my recent excursions I could be looking for another set, though I wouldn't want the Pirelli tyres   :whistle:

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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #23 on: August 15, 2012, 08:31:20 am »
    was the dyno done on your car standard or is there anything done to it?
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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #24 on: August 15, 2012, 07:53:42 pm »
    Car is plenty capable once you have done the suspension. Stock brakes are up to the job, they are very good.

    I may be mad but I'm thinking of having the EsseEsse kit fitted to my APE if a chunk of money I'm hoping for comes through. As you've had a stock APE and now have the SS I have another question. Is there any noticeable difference in the exhaust?

    Unfortunately, esseesse upgrade has to be done within 12 months/12,500 miles of first registration.

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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #25 on: August 23, 2012, 11:27:09 am »
    So any news, how did it go?

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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #26 on: October 19, 2012, 09:14:53 pm »

    Any news of when Forge is going to create a 50/50 dump valve for the Evo..?

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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #27 on: October 21, 2012, 11:04:50 pm »
    Can't see why, they just look dirty and you can't see the design of the alloy that well due to being darker, like those people who go for black alloys what's the point in that, nice flash alloys you can't even see  :P ;) ;D 

    I should watch what I say with my recent excursions I could be looking for another set, though I wouldn't want the Pirelli tyres   :whistle:

    Haha... yeah who on earth would be stupid enough to do that!?  :whistle:

    was the dyno done on your car standard or is there anything done to it?

    First Dyno was on the car with no mods whatsoever but it was running normal fuel at the time. Now I've been running Optimax or similar it seems better.

    So some feedback then.... (Apologies for not posting sooner, I've had a pretty crappy few months from a family perspective and visiting the forums has been far from being my agenda)

    Well it is loud!! Really Loud, the induction noise scared a bloke when I drove into a multistory and I had hardly given it any revs. The induction noise varies at different levels of boost or revs and on full boost it makes a high pitch whine which is kinda annoying. I think is is fairly common though. The BOV or dumpvalve is very very loud. It's not my personal cup of tea but most people I show it to think it's great.

    The other bits are harder to see if there is any benefit. Overall the car is faster and the torque delivery is much smoother. I tested the 180bhp SuperSport yesterday and mine felt much quicker but it only had 700miles on the clock.

    I'm going to keep the bits on the car so anyone coming to Brooklands next year will be able to see/hear the Forge goodies.
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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #28 on: October 22, 2012, 10:39:50 am »
    Not blown away by  the sounds of it then in the literal sense and subjective performance analysis, these mods would do you well when you go for a bit more power.

    Did you get a dyno after, would be interesting to see where it has shifted the torque curves etc.

    Hard to compare the SS to a stock car, they do more than just up the power they tweak the throttle maps etc so the car responds differently, a stock APE feel rapid in sport due to overly aggressive setup, I felt the same as you when I compared my stock APE to an APESS, then when I had the SS updates it didn't blow me away as the car seemed to loose that explosive boost, though power was fed in better, smoother, somewhat more sensible but more importantly controllable, on the dyno there was +15bhp +20lbft of torque so it was all doing its job, just didn't feel as nuts.

    Adding a TMC to the SS brings back that level of aggression in sport mode though but does make the car feel like a turbo diesel, all low end shove highlighting the lack of ability up top of the rev range, something that your mods would probably be able to address.
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    Re: Forge Motorsport Evo Development
    « Reply #29 on: October 22, 2012, 12:25:04 pm »
    I'll elaborate on why I think mine feels quicker. It still has that shove that you refer to but it doesn't drop off like it used to. It now feels more relentless and has made motorway driving so much easier. In gear acceleration has seen the biggest improvement.

    I drove the SuperSport around town then took it for blast on the motorway to see how it felt. It felt just a slight bit sluggish compared to mine. Marginal but noticeable.
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