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Help me with my custom exhaust
« on: June 11, 2014, 11:34:42 pm »
Alright its time for me to get my exhaust done. As I've said before I quite like the note from the standard Evo back-box, its just too quiet imo. I want something that will sound similar, but louder - an italian sporty/raspy note (not bassy and chavy). Burbling at low revs/idle, with the odd bang and pop thrown in for good measure.
Whadda ya think?  :P

After having a good look around here and there, I think I am right in saying that a custom setup might be best over an aftermarket back-box like Supersprint or Remus, and should work out a lot cheaper? But when you all say "go custom" I was a little concerned because who makes the back-boxes? Do they? Or do they just buy-in some generic back-box with no particular note or tone so to say, and then only make the rest of the exhaust?Because then its not really any more custom, in fact maybe less so, than buying a Remus backbox that has been designed for the Evo Abarth?

Is it possible to have a cat-back custom exhaust but keep the standard Abarth backbox for the note, and hope it makes it louder - or is this pointless I have no idea tbh?

I've seen Cliff's, is it? 500 video with his exhaust from Steve at Viper, sounds very sporty and clean (similar to the monza note). Also heard ctsui35 youtube video with his 500C done with a cat-back from Solid Fabrications which sounds similar and nice, abit quieter imo, but he also went for the most silent of the 3 backboxes and I would probably go with the most loudest anyway ;D

But there are so many custom places I have no idea who will give me what sound I want and at a decent price, although these two are probably at the top of recommendations on here imo.

On a side-note the 500 doesn't have mid-box as standard anyone know if the Punto is the same setup or not?

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« Last Edit: June 11, 2014, 11:40:14 pm by ABZedd »
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    Re: Help me with my custom exhaust
    « Reply #1 on: June 12, 2014, 08:12:53 am »
    The EVO does not have a mid box, it was only the AGP which did..

    As for the rest, I'll reply when I get to work :thumb:
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    Re: Help me with my custom exhaust
    « Reply #2 on: June 12, 2014, 03:30:36 pm »
    dont know what diff is with APE and AGP but i went down the custom route few weeks and really happy. when in traffic its just nice and notey but once foot starts hitting throttle it gets a nice loud tone. (cant describe it lol). happy to send a video or pics if some one can upload it (not a computer wizard).
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    Re: Help me with my custom exhaust
    « Reply #3 on: June 13, 2014, 11:44:00 am »
    dont know what diff is with APE and AGP but i went down the custom route few weeks and really happy. when in traffic its just nice and notey but once foot starts hitting throttle it gets a nice loud tone. (cant describe it lol). happy to send a video or pics if some one can upload it (not a computer wizard).
    3'' tail pipes full system to the cat 100% fun.

    How was your experience going to a custom place, did you describe what you wanted sound-wise and did they actually have a lot of different choices of exhausts, back-boxes? I don't want to sound like all the other non-Abarth hatches out there with the same exhaust.

    Because I found this place near me: Chris Tullett Exhausts and you can make your own exhaust on their site with quite a few different back-box sizes on there. So is that how they can make the custom sound you want by the dimensions of the back-box, and they make them there? Do all custom places make custom sized back-boxes like this? What about Solid Fabs. and Viper exhausts that I mentioned earlier?

    Also Will if you have any more info I'd appreciate it  :P

    EDIT: Another thought is I have heard people get cat-back pipework done and no boxes, does this just produce a loud sound which will be unique to the Abarth because of the engine its coming from and you have no boxes to create a note?
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    Re: Help me with my custom exhaust
    « Reply #4 on: June 13, 2014, 01:09:09 pm »
    Hello ABZedd, i have a custom exhaust on my ape. All I got made was the rear section, as I found the exhaust had nice note but was way to quiet. Its just down to the size on the standard rear silencer, I asked for a smaller rear silencer, chose the tips I wanted and it was all made in 2.5" stainless steel. I have keep that nice deep sound on idle and now with plenty of sound on the move  :thumb:

    Check my thread about my custom exhaust :)
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    Re: Help me with my custom exhaust
    « Reply #5 on: June 13, 2014, 01:31:08 pm »
    I'm quite new to exhausts but if I read correctly you just changed the back-box then? To a smaller diameter one?

    Does the stock noise we get come more from the back-box or the centre section and rest of the exhaust, if anyone knows?
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    Re: Help me with my custom exhaust
    « Reply #6 on: June 13, 2014, 04:16:38 pm »
    I went tony banks exhausts in leeds and i showed him a few clips on youtube of what i wanted sound wise. He had over 80 plus tail pipes so once i choose my tail pipe i went away for 4 hours came back and it was ready. He said the noise could be tweeked at the end if i needed it altering but it was perfect for me. Before it came of ramp i checked underneath the quality of pipe work all the way to the cat make sure it was up to standard. Ps also got a new back box. Def go down custom route.
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    Re: Help me with my custom exhaust
    « Reply #7 on: June 18, 2014, 08:24:46 pm »
    Sorry for the late reply but yes all I got was the rear section made with a smaller back box :)
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    Re: Help me with my custom exhaust
    « Reply #8 on: June 19, 2014, 12:46:55 am »
    Okay, anyone know for certain that the evo doesn't have a mid-pipe silencer somewhere because I was told it most likely does ???

    Because if it doesn't, is it worth getting a cat-back over an axle-back if I am just going for sound? Or does the piping make a difference too?

    If still is standard piping 2 inches all the way to the tips? If so what is the preferred size for a nice sound without making it too boomy and obviously not losing any power? (2.25 - 2.5 I have been told before)

    Cheers.
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    Re: Help me with my custom exhaust
    « Reply #9 on: June 19, 2014, 07:06:09 am »
    The EVO definitely doesn't have a mid box, only the AGP does :thumb:

    Don't quite me on it but I think the standard EVO has a 2.15" pipe and the EVO SS/Supersport has a 2.5" pipe
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    Re: Help me with my custom exhaust
    « Reply #10 on: June 23, 2014, 09:38:53 pm »
    Well I'm getting a cat-back system fitted tomorrow, only thing is I don't know what size pipe to use? The guy recommended to use the same size as standard because you can lose low down power. But considering the 180hp SS has a larger size it might be better as I reckon I will gain 10-15hp looking at previously done cars. Although the SS has a different (and probably more powerful) turbo?

    Also anyone know the re-sale value of an abarth evo backbox?
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    Re: Help me with my custom exhaust
    « Reply #11 on: June 24, 2014, 10:25:54 am »
    Resale value won't be much...  You'd probably be best either keeping it for a rainy day or to shop it in for scrap.

    As for the turbo - all APE's, Esseesse or Supersport have the same Garrett GT1446 turbo.

    The pipe on the Esseesse and Supersport is a larger diameter than the original APE, although I do not know by how much.
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    Re: Help me with my custom exhaust
    « Reply #12 on: June 26, 2014, 08:40:40 pm »
    How did the exhaust go :)??
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    Re: Help me with my custom exhaust
    « Reply #13 on: June 27, 2014, 03:25:18 pm »
    Well I'm getting a cat-back system fitted tomorrow, only thing is I don't know what size pipe to use? The guy recommended to use the same size as standard because you can lose low down power. But considering the 180hp SS has a larger size it might be better as I reckon I will gain 10-15hp looking at previously done cars. Although the SS has a different (and probably more powerful) turbo?

    Also anyone know the re-sale value of an abarth evo backbox?
    bigger pipes wouldnt matter would it?  i got 3" pipes not to big to fill the gap and not noticed any loss of power.
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