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Offline A84RTH

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Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
« Reply #150 on: July 03, 2011, 12:52:05 am »
And the body of an A500, perfect!  ;D

No thank you they can't handle what the Punto can. They are too short and too high.


Imagine a monza on that - no exhaust for the punto has come close yet  :thumbd:

You've obviously not heard the TMC one    ;) :D

All the agp need is the koni's .
« Last Edit: July 03, 2011, 12:53:37 am by A84RTH »
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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #151 on: July 03, 2011, 09:31:32 am »
    I must admit that the AGP feels more 'raw', and the power delivery is completely different between the two..

    But having driven both, there is an obvious difference.. And, IMO, no one can give comment as to which is better until they've driven both in anger.

    I've always been an Evo hater, in fact I spent a long time thinking it was fugly and too bulky.. Driving one, and seeing the SS in the flesh completely blew my mind
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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #152 on: July 03, 2011, 03:35:19 pm »
    Got my Punto Evo SS Delivered yesterday, had an AGP SS previously.
    Evo looks much more aggressive on the exterior, makes a better noise than the AGP and dumps quite loud when changing gear.
    AGP SS full leather seats are nicer than the leather option in the EVO, leather door handles/cards on the AGP were nicer than the crummy material they've equipped the EVO with. Centre console/dials/radio etc much nicer in the EVO.
    AGP SS had fantastic handling, but the EVO blows it away with the koni's. 90 degree bends at speed and there is no roll at all, corners completely flat.
    I've yet to fit my TMC, going to let it run in a bit first.
    I've literally only done 40/50 miles in it so this is purely first impressions.
    However the EVO turns heads everywhere, only people that knew what they were looking at acknowledged the AGP whereas EVO is a neck snapper.

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #153 on: July 03, 2011, 09:51:31 pm »
    No thank you they can't handle what the Punto can. They are too short and too high

    So why do they put the AGP running gear in A500's for the racing cars then?  :whistle:



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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #154 on: July 04, 2011, 09:17:19 am »
    No thank you they can't handle what the Punto can. They are too short and too high

    So why do they put the AGP running gear in A500's for the racing cars then?  :whistle:

    I believe he is referring to the wheelbase/ relative body height

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #155 on: July 06, 2011, 10:41:15 pm »
    I can't wait to see an official laptime from this kit! :D

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #156 on: September 12, 2011, 05:01:17 pm »
    Tested an evo ss today. Would I park my money for the kit no. The konis are lovely and the exhaustair filture combo sound nice and what all ape should sound ilk but still slight the quiet side.

    The power delivery is nice but didn't fill much diffrent to my ape with tmc.

    Would recommend anyone with a np ape to drive one thow. Wouldn't mind hearing other people's opinions
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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #157 on: September 12, 2011, 05:18:44 pm »
    I've got the cash waiting to do it at the moment but I like to get to know my cars well before tuning and I fully intend to get some good use out of my current parts first as you'll only get silly offers for the old parts so they may as well be used.

    I have done a few trackdays and sprints so far, my brakes can't really cope with any more functions, so they are not far from being ready for the chop, there is enough to tide me over for a few miles if I stop playing in the motor and keep it on the road.

    My dealer has been pretty slow in getting an esseesse kit on the demo motor though so not been able to test yet, not in a rush, still gotta burn through my Pirellis ;D they've held out really well.

    As you are comparing it to a TMC'd APE and saying it feels the same that is pretty reassuring actually as it must be giving it a decent bump whilst still maintaining the warranty, I'd of expected it to hide its power more due to better suspension setup so might of felt more refined and therefore feel less powerful that your TMC'd machine.
    « Last Edit: September 12, 2011, 05:24:19 pm by sandys »

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #158 on: September 12, 2011, 06:01:03 pm »
    By the same power I ment the putting you back but my car fells slightly flat at min as I have had my box off for last couple days and covered 500miles as I know I would have not get time to do it before it went into dealers today
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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #159 on: October 08, 2011, 01:21:15 pm »
    Finally test drove an esseesse today, it's a nice car, very hard to come to a solid conclusion about it though as it was fitted to a new motor which meant it was a bit tight.

    The engine performance was below my current stock APE, there were a few improvements I could notice though, this car didn't have the early cut of revs in early gears and was more keen to go higher despite being new. Hard to say if this was because it wasn't pulling as hard so the power cut is less pronounced than mine but I recall mine being like it since day one, so perhaps it is a mapping improvement.

    Brakes again something I could not test, having not done many miles they probably hadn't been bedded in so can only take it on trust that it'll be even better, current brakes are superb so I doubt it will be a downgrade.

    Exhaust system seemed fine, boomier but not too intrusive, my car sounds more restrained in comparison.

    Handling was the trump card, it was very positive, cutting a lot of body roll whilst maintaining a fairly compliant ride, I felt that even with the 18s it was a lot more composed over the rough roads by the dealership, than my sto k car, firm but not exposing you to the big impacts, very good.

    So a bit mixed really as the car was a bit tight. I can justify some of it but can't decide if it's all worth it, i'll have to give it some thought, it's a shame it's not something you can test on a nicely run in motor like mine to give it a proper test. All I know is that at the very least I will be replacing some of the parts so don't mind getting it in the kit.

    Car had the Sabelts in, it's a nice seat to sit in shame it costs so much.

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #160 on: October 26, 2011, 04:44:03 pm »
    The V5 will never change as DVLA refuse to do it.
    Esse Esse is a seperate model for insurance purposes and you will receive a certificate to say that the car has a kit and the back of the service history book will be stamped by the dealer and a verified kit number will be written in.
    It will not be classified as a modified car :thumb:

    I just called my insurance (Admiral) to confirm premium increase for fitting esseesse kit, and they won't change the model as the car will still come up as a 163bhp Punto and will only list this change as a modification.

    Perhaps I am going about it wrong, if you order a new APESS does it have a different classification on the V5 than a stock APE?

    any tips on what I should be saying to these guys as this kit thing causes confusion.

    It was only £22 increase as a modification so hardly a killer but obviously if I have an accident and write the vehicle off I want to ensure they pay out as the higher priced vehicle?

    Perhaps I should put this in a new thread? Hmmm dunno.

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #161 on: October 26, 2011, 04:49:52 pm »
    All insurers should view it as a different model, it has it's own code in the insurance ratings (sorry, can't remember what it is)
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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #162 on: October 26, 2011, 04:51:12 pm »
    The found the separate model but claim I cannot use it as that is not what my car is as it did not come off the production line like it.  ::)

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #163 on: October 26, 2011, 04:53:40 pm »
    No SS ever came off the production line as an SS, muppets  ::) Speak to a different advisor, there's a few who know what's going on

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #164 on: October 26, 2011, 04:56:25 pm »
    I will have another go, it was £27 as a model and £22 as a modification neither breaks the bank which is good just want to make sure its right.

     

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