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Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
« Reply #90 on: May 26, 2011, 01:59:41 pm »
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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo Mats ?
    « Reply #91 on: May 26, 2011, 02:04:35 pm »
    All this has been achieved while keeping the car in the Euro 5 category emission           142 g/Km

    And that's the exact reason this kit should be avoided! This kit as with the standard car has had been designed with the compromise of achieving emissions targets. Who of us really care what the emissions are as long as it passes an MOT? If they didn't have an emissions target to hit then you would have easily seen over 200bhp from this kit.

    If you after actual performance then your money is better spent elsewhere.

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #92 on: May 26, 2011, 02:09:35 pm »
    Finally some news about the kit.  :thumb:

    My dealer was 100% sure it was going to produce 205bhp though, I told him not a chance bet it's 180 so now I'm happy.

    Good news it's here though hope it becomes available soon.
    :)Kim & Anthony:)
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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #93 on: May 26, 2011, 02:10:23 pm »



    All this has been achieved while keeping the car in the Euro 5 category emission           142 g/Km

    And that's the exact reason this kit should be avoided! This kit as with the standard car has had been designed with the compromise of achieving emissions targets. Who of us really care what the emissions are as long as it passes an MOT? If they didn't have an emissions target to hit then you would have easily seen over 200bhp from this kit.

    If you after actual performance then your money is better spent elsewhere.

    That is one of the main reasons the kit is done by the dealer Russ, of course the emissions change but as it's done as an aftermarket modification the car doesn't need to be tested again.
    If you dont want the kit that's your choice but dont put something down that you have no experience of.
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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #94 on: May 26, 2011, 02:31:16 pm »
    Not slagging the kit off, just highlighting how their hands were tied as to how much performance they could unleash with the kit. You don't need experience of the kit to realise the obvious. We all know that performance and emissions have an inverse relationship.

    Am sure that the break upgrade & FSD's will make it a cracking drive. Can't see the uptake on the kit being too high as everyone wants to keep the claw alloys.

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #95 on: May 26, 2011, 02:35:18 pm »
    You get to keep the claws and can be put back on at anytime  :thumb:

    Also with the kit it does improve the car alot although on paper it doesn't look much it makes a big difference.

    Best of all you get to keep your warranty whereas if you take your money elsewhere you've lost it.
    « Last Edit: May 26, 2011, 02:40:32 pm by A84RTH »
    :)Kim & Anthony:)
    BMW 335i 309bhp at the wheels, 572nm of torque :-)

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #96 on: May 26, 2011, 02:40:53 pm »
    True, just a killer having to shell out for alloys you may not want. Do wish you could pick and choose bits from the kit.

    Assetto kit sounds like a good shout though

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #97 on: May 26, 2011, 02:58:48 pm »
    Just having a quick tot up of bits:
    Koni's & springs £800
    Wheels £300 easch (£1200)
    Tyres £120 easch (£480)
    Exhaust £200 ? complete guess
    Pads £100
    Front Discs £500
    Rear discs £200
    Total £3480

    Thats in parts alone without the power upgrade or any fitting costs. Sounds like pretty good value to me ::)

    If you dont want the wheels then sell them, there are enough AGP Esse esse's out there that will have a kurbed alloy.
    Add to the price the additional residual value of the car (AGP SS is still making about £1500 more than NP as a trade in) and happy days.
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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #98 on: May 26, 2011, 03:22:10 pm »
    Thats in parts alone without the power upgrade or any fitting costs. Sounds like pretty good value to me ::)

    Seem to have struck a nerve on this one. If you actually read my post I never once implied that the kit was 'Bad Value', just if you're looking to maximise performance then you're money is better spent elsewhere. But as you rightly point out, this is the only route to take if you wish to retain your warranty.

    I understand that as a dealer it is in your interest to defend any nay saying about the kit, however you can't stop people form pointing out the facts. I mean you wouldn't have a problem if I was telling everyone that by installing the kit it would change their lives forever....

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #99 on: May 26, 2011, 03:27:19 pm »
    I think John's point was 'don't knock it till you try it', you can knock it if you like afterwards  ;)

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #100 on: May 26, 2011, 03:31:34 pm »
    ^^^^^^^
    Exactly what He said :thumb:

    If you try an esse esse'd car and decide that an aftermarkert alternative is better then I have no problem with that at all.
    As it is impossible for you to try that option at the moment then an opinion shouldn't be formed.

    I would actually have a problem if you were telling everyone that the kit would change their lives for ever as you would be misleading people on a product that you have not tested. Best We leave the subject there until demo's are availble and people can give an informed opinion.
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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #101 on: May 26, 2011, 03:33:19 pm »
    With the factory kit, does your car become a proper EsseEsse, as in re-classified model on the V5 and with its own insurance grouping therefore easier to insure and most likely cheaper than a modified car, or does the addition of a kit mean its a modified vehicle and is treated as such by insurers meaning you have to list each modified part upon insuring?

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #102 on: May 26, 2011, 03:40:06 pm »
    The V5 will never change as DVLA refuse to do it.
    Esse Esse is a seperate model for insurance purposes and you will receive a certificate to say that the car has a kit and the back of the service history book will be stamped by the dealer and a verified kit number will be written in.
    It will not be classified as a modified car :thumb:
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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #103 on: May 26, 2011, 03:41:07 pm »
    Just for the record. I have driven an AGP SS (I realise this is not an EVO).

    I really don't get why you think i'm trying to have a dig. All I have ever done is commented on emissions. Fact is to keep emssions at the same level there are restrictive parts still in place which could have been removed/ improved if their hands were'nt tied. This is a fact!

    Like I've said before i'm sure it's a cracking drive and will happily give one a go.

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo Mats ?
    « Reply #104 on: May 26, 2011, 03:47:50 pm »
    All this has been achieved while keeping the car in the Euro 5 category emission           142 g/Km

    And that's the exact reason this kit should be avoided! This kit as with the standard car has had been designed with the compromise of achieving emissions targets. Who of us really care what the emissions are as long as it passes an MOT? If they didn't have an emissions target to hit then you would have easily seen over 200bhp from this kit.

    If you after actual performance then your money is better spent elsewhere.

    The thing is if the cars emissions went up and pushed the car into the next road tax bracket i can imagine alot of people would be put off!
    you only have to look at the renault clio cup! because of the 2.0l engine it gets pushed into the £240 a year tax bracket! at 142g/km  its only £140
    means alot to people these days as petrol and road tax is so f'ing expensive!!

     

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