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Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
« Reply #165 on: October 28, 2011, 11:24:55 pm »
had this problem when i SS'd my AGP, took 7 calls to the insurance before i got someone who knows about the abarth way of doing things, basically you need the advisors supervisors manager before you get any sense at all :thumb:

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #166 on: October 29, 2011, 08:25:19 pm »
    How much power and torque does the Esseesse kit have (dyno tested)?

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #167 on: October 29, 2011, 08:34:54 pm »
    official figure is 180. individual readings are only really relevant if you had the car on the same dyno before the kit was fitted to get an accurate figure for the increase :thumb:

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #168 on: November 08, 2011, 04:17:14 pm »
    I test drove one today.  Didn't seem a great deal quicker than my standard APE, nor really any less jiggly on poor surfaces.  A little better planted on better surfaces and at speed - maybe due to the wheels/tyres - mine are the 205/45 17s on the grey alternative wheels.

    Don't think I'll be spending the money either on the full kit or on the dampers/springs.

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #169 on: November 08, 2011, 06:26:44 pm »
    If that is your tyre size I'd imagine your car would feel more accelerative as you are over 5% under the size of the 18s which lowers the gearing, would feel fast but top of 3rd you'd be going 4mph slower :D

    The esseesse I drove felt a lot slower than mine, but then I put decent fuel in and its unlikely the dealer did and mine is well run in.

    EDIT - I'm sure that your post read 205/40/17 initially, hey ho, scratch my comment you are just over 2% under the esseesse.
    « Last Edit: November 08, 2011, 06:33:16 pm by sandys »

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #170 on: November 24, 2011, 05:08:34 pm »
    i was hoping for them to gain more power out of the new car because the agp had 180 so i thought they might have got a little more out the new engine, but oh well i have driven one and the power is a little better the handling is ok apart from the wheels hitting the arch and the bouncy ride but that is to be expected, i have the esseesse brakes on mine so i couldnt tell the diffrence with the brakes and i have a bmc filter on mine too so couldnt tell any sound diffrence but still fun and it pust a smile on your face, Wouldnt spent the 4000 quid though :thumbd:

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #171 on: November 24, 2011, 08:51:50 pm »
    i was hoping for them to gain more power out of the new car because the agp had 180 so i thought they might have got a little more out the new engine, but oh well i have driven one and the power is a little better the handling is ok apart from the wheels hitting the arch and the bouncy ride but that is to be expected, i have the esseesse brakes on mine so i couldnt tell the diffrence with the brakes and i have a bmc filter on mine too so couldnt tell any sound diffrence but still fun and it pust a smile on your face, Wouldnt spent the 4000 quid though :thumbd:
    Mine is unmodified and still puts a smile on my face - and it's starting to sound very good in an understated way - would like a smoother gearbox and less jiggly suspension, but even that I'm getting used to.  Maybe different tyres will help.  I know that on my Punto GTs the handling and ride were hugely improved with Yokohamas, and the ride became much easier with Michelins, which lasted an age.

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #172 on: November 30, 2011, 10:44:06 pm »
    Magazine test of Punto Evo esseesse

    Oh Dear!

    there was me hoping that esseesse might take me > 190 with a bigger wedge of torque.....perhaps I'm going to be disappointed  :-\ , time will tell, cars were not tested in same conditions.
    « Last Edit: November 30, 2011, 10:50:42 pm by sandys »

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #173 on: November 30, 2011, 10:49:11 pm »
    Meh ::)
    I can tell the difference :thumb:
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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #174 on: November 30, 2011, 10:50:17 pm »
    do you really trust a translation like that ???

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #175 on: November 30, 2011, 10:51:27 pm »
    I dont trust the horsepower figures, they are too low :thumbd:
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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #176 on: November 30, 2011, 11:30:36 pm »
    translation is not great but you get the jist, not sure when this one was tested one of the photos shows 32degC in the dash, if its not library photos then that could indicate a difference there, you just won't get 32degC in december in Italy, clearly they are not testing the same cars and they could find as i have done that the esseeese was slower than what I drive daily, for me I put it down to the tightness of the demo.

    Sounds like the safety systems held it back on the track due to the extra torque, a reasonable comment, I've had them cut in on me when pressing on, a car running the same rubber with more torque isn't going to grip any better on smooth tarmac.

    Article seems to also imply that its better on fuel, that would be a welcome addition, my current 40mpg average just doesn't cut the mustard.

    Couple of weeks and I'll know for sure. :whistle:

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #177 on: December 24, 2011, 01:28:07 pm »
    Does the Punto EVO Abarth SS handle better than the GP Abarth SS due to the Koni FSD dampers? Anyone driven both these cars to compare?

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #178 on: December 24, 2011, 01:47:57 pm »
    I Have the Standard EVO, with 18 inch SS wheels, the difference starts here, the 18s make a difference on there own.
    I Have driven the Punto EVO SS With the Koni's and noticed a a marked inprovement and much better than mine on standard shocks.
    I think they come at a premium though at around a grand.

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    Re: Abarth Punto Evo esseesse
    « Reply #179 on: December 25, 2011, 12:37:18 pm »
    Its hard for me to really comment with authority as there was a good few months between when I drove them but I got out of the AGPSS and thought its not bad, not as quick as I had thought and walked out of the showroom quibbling on the price of it.

    Drove the Evo and was a lot happier over all, didn't feel it gave up a lot to the other machine such are the improvements to drivetrain and the tweaks to the handling, a bit more roll but not a lot else, liked it, bought it despite it costing more than a GP. :)

    The Konis should work well on an AGPSS though, depends how you want it to handle there are lots of options, Konis very road biased from what I can tell, if that is not a concern and you don't have roads as dodgy as our lumpy potholed A/B roads you might want to go more extreme with something like KW V3 etc or a Bilstein middle ground.