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Offline Atlgibson

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APE Rear Lights Prone to Condensation
« on: July 31, 2014, 03:58:20 pm »
Just a warning to everyone. I had mine replaced after having the car 6 months as there was condensation and water residue on the inside of both rear lights. I got told my Bauer Millet Manchester that they have had this regularly and that they don't always replace them, depends on how bad it actually is. I had them replaced in the end on warranty but just a warning to keep an eye out for such things especially if you have warranty and can have it sorted for nothing. :thumb:

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    Offline will-w

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    Re: APE Rear Lights Prone to Condensation
    « Reply #1 on: July 31, 2014, 04:17:39 pm »
    It's a really common issue unfortunately which will come back, even after having them replaced :thumbd:

    Little bags of silicone balls stops it, other than that there's not a lot you can do
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    Offline Atlgibson

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    Re: APE Rear Lights Prone to Condensation
    « Reply #2 on: July 31, 2014, 04:19:38 pm »
    Crazy really, surely its down to the seals or something and they could be better designed. Just hope that I find any other common issues whilst its under warranty so its not coming out of my own pocket. 

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    Re: APE Rear Lights Prone to Condensation
    « Reply #3 on: July 31, 2014, 04:21:55 pm »
    Yeah it is a little odd, especially considering the Grande Punto didn't have any issues!
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    Re: APE Rear Lights Prone to Condensation
    « Reply #4 on: July 31, 2014, 09:23:09 pm »
    I've covered this topic on other forums. The trouble with the Evo lights is that the section which steams up is NOT sealed. You have a section at the back of the light that houses the indicator and rear driving bulbs. This section IS sealed to protect the electronics. The section that is in front of this is empty reflector space and thats the area that gets condensation. The brake light LED's sit around the edge of the light unit and are sealed separately. I had one light replaced because it had really bad condensation but it will eventually return as Will said. The reason why the AGP's dont get it is because they dont have LED's its all bulbs so its completely sealed. The heat generated by bulbs is also greater than LED's so any condensation in an AGP is burnt off anyway. If you search the Internet loads of cars with the new type of LED lights suffer from condensation, even Aston Martins.

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    Re: APE Rear Lights Prone to Condensation
    « Reply #5 on: July 31, 2014, 09:48:05 pm »
    Speaking of which, I had both my rear lenses replaced yesterday when I went for a service. They only did it after I told them that everyone I had met had the same issue and got them changed, I was so fed up with it and also pax side LED surround has gone so faint it was hardly visible, so looks like it can still affect your electrics somehow after all booo.....

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    Re: APE Rear Lights Prone to Condensation
    « Reply #6 on: July 31, 2014, 10:19:57 pm »
    On another forum a guy with a Fiat Punto Evo took his car back over 10 times. People from Fiat UK head office even came out with sets of lights but the condensation still returned. The general information from Fiat is that the lights arent sealed. And with how much water is getting in you would have to agree.

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    Re: APE Rear Lights Prone to Condensation
    « Reply #7 on: August 18, 2014, 12:15:03 pm »
    I've not had this at all in the ownership period of my car, which is coming up to 2 years. The car itself was originally registered in November 2010, so there's been plenty of time for this to manifest itself, but there's been no problem at all. I can confirm the units are not totally sealed, hence the fly that got itself into one of my light units, the  removal of which has been documented elsewhere in this forum. I did get condensation in one of the headlight units of a brand new Alfa 147 I owned a few years ago, so I reckon you can fall foul of a faulty unit even on a new vehicle.

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    Re: APE Rear Lights Prone to Condensation
    « Reply #8 on: July 19, 2016, 12:51:49 pm »
    Turkish made lights....that's why >:(