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Offline DTPnorfolk

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Ideal Tyres for 18" EsseEsse wheels
« on: August 03, 2011, 08:11:06 pm »
If I bought some EsseEsse wheels for my APE, what recommendations have people got for tyres?

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    Re: Ideal Tyres for 18" EsseEsse wheels
    « Reply #1 on: August 03, 2011, 08:20:21 pm »
    If you can run 225/40/18 you'll probably save a fortune, speedo would be out a touch.

    Not tried them but Toyo R1R @ 120 a pop sound decent.

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    Re: Ideal Tyres for 18" EsseEsse wheels
    « Reply #2 on: August 03, 2011, 10:20:35 pm »
    The standard Pirelli P-Zero Nero are rather noisy but wear well, I've done 12k and they've still got a good 5mm of tread..... At £170 a corner they're not cheap though!

    Not used any others so can't comment
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    Re: Ideal Tyres for 18" EsseEsse wheels
    « Reply #3 on: August 04, 2011, 09:41:13 am »
    225 40 18 actually make the speedo read better only 2-3mph out whereas I found the 215 40 18 read 6-7mph out according to my sat nav anyway.

    Michelin pilot sport 3 are a must  :thumb:
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    Re: Ideal Tyres for 18" EsseEsse wheels
    « Reply #4 on: August 04, 2011, 11:08:20 am »
    225 40 18 actually make the speedo read better only 2-3mph out whereas I found the 215 40 18 read 6-7mph out according to my sat nav anyway.

    Michelin pilot sport 3 are a must  :thumb:

    Here are the speedo differences I put in this post as I was looking at what I would fit to esseesse wheels as I was going to pick up a set, just not found them cheap enough and will probably buy esseesse in the coming months if i can keep the mileage down and the missus doesn't get too carried away with new house purchases.

    https://www.abarthforum.co.uk/abarth-punto-evo/alternate-tyre-sizes/

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    Re: Ideal Tyres for 18" EsseEsse wheels
    « Reply #5 on: August 04, 2011, 11:56:29 am »
    I tend to go for the Toyo T1-R's. I have a set on the front and they seem to be wearing well, but imagine they wouldn't last long if you were driving 'passionately'.

    The Pirelli's I had initially didn't last long and I didn't get much enjoyment out of them, especially in damp conditions. I can also say they're fairly noisy aswell. People will probably disagree with me though on some of those points though, as each to their own and all that.

    Might try Toyo proxes 4 next time to keep costs down. Tyres are stupidly expensive. It always seems strange that you pay more for less tyre, but I understand why though :'(
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    Re: Ideal Tyres for 18" EsseEsse wheels
    « Reply #6 on: August 04, 2011, 12:02:34 pm »
    Not a fan of the Pirelli either, had T1R on my Alfa (as well as most other brands) they weren't bad but they seemed to require a bit more PSI that F1s or PS2 I ran for the same steering feel, think this was mostly down to the sidewall not beeing so stiff.

    Personal favourite tyre for me was Michelin PS2, bit pricey though.

    Part of the reason for asking about alternate tyres size was because the stock esseesse size is approx 30-40quid more per tyre than 225/40/18.

    Typically do a set of 4 in 4-6 months due to mileage and trackdays, it all adds up, a fair saving can be made.

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    Re: Ideal Tyres for 18" EsseEsse wheels
    « Reply #7 on: August 04, 2011, 08:27:51 pm »
    225 40 18 actually make the speedo read better only 2-3mph out whereas I found the 215 40 18 read 6-7mph out according to my sat nav anyway.

    Michelin pilot sport 3 are a must  :thumb:

    How does the width of the tyre effect the speedo???
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    Re: Ideal Tyres for 18" EsseEsse wheels
    « Reply #8 on: August 04, 2011, 08:32:37 pm »
    The 40 profile is a percentage of width therefore the greater width leads to higher sidewall as shown in my link, which obviously leads to a greater circumference and a greater distanced travelled per revolution.

    225*.4 = 90mm sidewall
    215*.4 = 86mm sidewall
    « Last Edit: August 04, 2011, 08:37:39 pm by sandys »

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    Re: Ideal Tyres for 18" EsseEsse wheels
    « Reply #9 on: August 04, 2011, 08:36:50 pm »
    its not the width as such but if you keep the same  aspect ratio (the 2 digits after the width) then you alter the proportions of the tyre. if you go up a size in width then you need to drop a size in the aspect ratio to maintain the circumference of the tyre.

    205/40 is a different diameter to 215/40 but 215/35 would be close to original :thumb:

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    Re: Ideal Tyres for 18" EsseEsse wheels
    « Reply #10 on: August 15, 2011, 01:51:15 pm »
    I'm trying to weigh up the pros and cons of getting the 18's. Can't find any reasonably priced tyres online. Have you got any recommendations for cheap tyres?
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    Re: Ideal Tyres for 18" EsseEsse wheels
    « Reply #11 on: August 15, 2011, 02:30:27 pm »
    Part of the reason for mentioning the size swap is that 215/40 18 are approx £190 bit less if you get a deal for 4

    225/40/18 opens up a wider range of tyre starting from cheap but decent falkens FK452 @90 quid a tyre to the Pirelli Rosso/goodyear Asymentric etc @ £130 a tyre

    215/45/17 will set you back the same sort of dough (~120 for good brands) so you are not loosing out much in this case, only in stock 18 size.

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    Re: Ideal Tyres for 18" EsseEsse wheels
    « Reply #12 on: August 15, 2011, 02:37:59 pm »
    I've been running the 17" FK452s on my 500 for a while and they are perfectly decent

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    Re: Ideal Tyres for 18" EsseEsse wheels
    « Reply #13 on: August 20, 2011, 10:46:11 pm »
    225 40 18 actually make the speedo read better only 2-3mph out whereas I found the 215 40 18 read 6-7mph out according to my sat nav anyway.

    Michelin pilot sport 3 are a must  :thumb:
    Do the Michelin Pilot Sport 3 tyres come in 215/40/18 also, or just in 225/40/18?

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    Re: Ideal Tyres for 18" EsseEsse wheels
    « Reply #14 on: August 22, 2011, 09:37:24 am »
    Couldn't find them in a 215 so I just got 225. Also the were about £50 a tyre cheaper in a 225  :thumb:

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