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Title: iPods
Post by: John501 on November 05, 2008, 03:03:59 pm
While I'm having a rant about my pet hates (see my Blue&Me thread), I thought I would also put the world to rights about compatibility issues concerning iPods and Blue&Me.
Blue&Me has a lovely feature which allows you to play MP3 tracks through the USB port in the glove compartment. A normal memory stick will do the trick, just copy your MP3s onto the stick, pop it in and away you go.
An iPod will also work, BUT, it will only work if:
1, It is formatted to PC mode, not Macintosh.
2, It is in "disk only" mode.
3, The tracks on it are in MP3 format, not MP4, AAC, or any other weird and wonderful format.
4, The tracks cannot be downloaded from iTunes, as they are copy protected and do not work on the Microsoft based system.
All in all, whilst an iPod is a lovely toy to have, if you just want it for the car, save your money and buy a £6 USB stick from Tesco, it will do the same job.
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: AndyW on November 05, 2008, 10:01:16 pm
This does annoy me, although as our 100HP doesn't have Blue & Me it doesn't really affect us yet.

No way I'm bothering to convert my 20gig of music into MP3, AAC suits me just fine. There are plenty of very effective kits out there, VW's and BMW's don't have this faff. Bloody Mircoshaft. ;)

However I'll go down the stick route when I do get one.
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: magicmole on November 06, 2008, 09:09:54 am
Is it my imagination or isn't the 'random' feature particularly random. I seem to get the same ones all too regularly.

I know about random 'seeding', perhaps this is the problem.
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: John501 on November 06, 2008, 09:21:37 am
You are quite correct, I have no idea how the random feature works, but it does seem to repeat its self a bit too often.
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: chunkymonkey on November 06, 2008, 06:26:45 pm
I know about random 'seeding', perhaps this is the problem.

whats that then? just ive noticed this on my cheapy usb head unit. always seems to be the same tracks in the same order.
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: magicmole on November 07, 2008, 10:03:42 am
Some (most?/all?) random number generators are not completely random. The starting number may be the same every time a series of random numbers is called and the subsequent list of random numbers will be more or less the same.

Therefore the start point, the seed, should ideally be different each time a series of random numbers is generated. It may well be that this seed is not being changed and stored and the random series is more or less the same every time, which is why the same tracks seem to reoccur.

Or something like that. :-\
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: Chumley on December 05, 2008, 11:07:54 pm
While I'm having a rant about my pet hates (see my Blue&Me thread), I thought I would also put the world to rights about compatibility issues concerning iPods and Blue&Me.
Blue&Me has a lovely feature which allows you to play MP3 tracks through the USB port in the glove compartment. A normal memory stick will do the trick, just copy your MP3s onto the stick, pop it in and away you go.
An iPod will also work, BUT, it will only work if:
1, It is formatted to PC mode, not Macintosh.
2, It is in "disk only" mode.
3, The tracks on it are in MP3 format, not MP4, AAC, or any other weird and wonderful format.
4, The tracks cannot be downloaded from iTunes, as they are copy protected and do not work on the Microsoft based system.
All in all, whilst an iPod is a lovely toy to have, if you just want it for the car, save your money and buy a £6 USB stick from Tesco, it will do the same job.

John,
You're not supposed to be telling us about the Tesco one when you have lovely Scorpion USB memory sticks for sale  ;D

Seriously, thanks for clearing that up; not being familiar with how the interfaces work, I was just wondering if a simple memory stick would work rather than buying an MP3 player - and I'd have no need for one other than the car - so that's good news. Thanks.
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: domc on December 06, 2008, 10:58:06 am
How well does an iphone intergrate with blue and me?
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: Missing in Action on December 06, 2008, 11:02:14 am
How well does an iphone intergrate with blue and me?

theres a sticky about that already mate

https://www.abarthforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,67.0.html
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: Missing in Action on December 06, 2008, 11:06:23 am
talking of all these formats that are conpatable etc etc.... does anyone recormend a MP3 converter?  for thoses that dont have the files as mp3's ....
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: domc on December 06, 2008, 01:00:14 pm
i tunes can do the converting to mp3 from there acc files.
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: fiona on December 06, 2008, 05:11:17 pm
I use http://www.dbpoweramp.com/ which can convert in batches and keep folder and naming structure.  Can be acquired from torrent sites.
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: Ryan on December 06, 2008, 10:38:55 pm
Chumley is right John, tut tut. Hit the edit button now! :D.
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: Missing in Action on December 31, 2008, 11:35:58 am
i tunes can do the converting to mp3 from there acc files.

anyone tell me where the hell i find this function!? all i can see is "convert to ACC" - want to get some MP3's on my new USB stick for tomorrow - going away for 4 days driving so wouldnt mind some music on the USB instead of all the bloody CD's i haul around with me

cheers  :thumb:
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: John501 on December 31, 2008, 12:09:39 pm
Put into google, "AAC to MP3" and it will turn up a million bits of software that do the job.
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: Missing in Action on December 31, 2008, 12:24:42 pm
yea i guess i could do that :P - just was woundering how to do it through iTunes though as donc said it is possiable.

cheers though John  :thumb:
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: domc on December 31, 2008, 04:35:55 pm
yea i guess i could do that :P - just was woundering how to do it through iTunes though as donc said it is possiable.

cheers though John  :thumb:

You select the songs that you want to convert then right click on them and "convert to mp3" is an option.

Make sure you have adjusted your quality settings by clicking the edit menu then sellecting preferences.
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: Missing in Action on December 31, 2008, 05:26:45 pm
yea i was doing that and it was always saying "convert to AAC"

i found the prefferences though and iv sorted it out thx!!! got it working with the USB stick - i also put the eco:Drive program on it... lets see how bad i actually drive  :-\ ::)
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: euroboy on January 09, 2009, 03:13:03 pm
Apple have just announced that from April onwards 90% of the store will be DRM free, making it much better for us B&M users!

All new purchases after the change in policy will be DRM free, items previously purchased in the store will be subject to an approx 20c per sonf charge to unlock!  (cheeky)

But still it does mean a marked improvement :)
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: olopboy on January 09, 2009, 03:15:36 pm
Sounds like they are just rolling out the itunes+ a bit quicker, bout time too the + format is much better quality when played through proper digital links.
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: domc on January 09, 2009, 03:15:53 pm
I think the problem will be they are still downloaded as AAC files so once you have bought it you will have to convert it to mp3 as i dont think blue and me supports aac files.

Maybe i'm wrong though.

It is a step in the right direction though.
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: olopboy on January 09, 2009, 03:20:29 pm
No it doesn't support AAC (Unlike the Ford B&M ::) ) But you can just right click and choose convert to MP3 which makes life easier, then I will be able to stick em on my B&M Map and go go gadget music
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: euroboy on January 09, 2009, 03:47:13 pm
Exactly, I tunes can covert the .aac into an appropriate B&M format :)

At the moment I use this:

www.noteburner.com

to get rid of the DRM, it works quite nicely, but its not perfect.  I just want to have my beloved Ipod back in the car - same goes for when I am driving the Spider!
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: 1mmortal on January 11, 2009, 07:00:35 pm
i also put the eco:Drive program on it... lets see how bad i actually drive  :-\ ::)

Whats this, eh?
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: John501 on January 11, 2009, 07:07:17 pm
I've posted about this before but I cant remember where. Its a program that you download from the Fiat website onto a USB stick and then put it into the car. It uploads the software to the car and 5 days later pop the stick back into the computer. It will break down all the data and let you know where you can save money by changing gear better, better acceleration ect. Its not really meant for Abarth but it does work.
P.S. when you set it up on your P.C> you have to tell it your driving a grande sporting 120 T-jet.
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: euroboy on January 11, 2009, 07:44:58 pm
I use it on the 500 but havent plugged it back in to the PC yet.  Should get some interesting results!
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: domc on January 18, 2009, 08:23:22 pm
Can someone please explain what kind of file naming you have to have for your track to play in order, i though it was just start the files name with a number but no!!!! Its n ot even in alphebetical order..

Phone works great do you have to download an update for message reader?

Title: Re: iPods
Post by: Missing in Action on January 18, 2009, 08:29:29 pm
with reguards to the message read it depends on the make of phone you got...

as for the order of itunes... i just put it on random... although i tried an album when i droped you off the other day and it played in the correct order....
Title: Re: iPods
Post by: 1mmortal on January 20, 2009, 06:27:02 pm
Can someone please explain what kind of file naming you have to have for your track to play in order, i though it was just start the files name with a number but no!!!! Its n ot even in alphebetical order..

Phone works great do you have to download an update for message reader?



Check your separate thread where you asked for help Dom.