Abarth Cars => Blue&Me => Topic started by: Ian hatton on October 17, 2013, 09:30:46 pm
Title: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 17, 2013, 09:30:46 pm
Reading many posts on this subject it's hugely disappointing that these cars cannot have sat nav like our European friends I've tried to research this and unsurprisingly I've drawn a blank!!! However I bought a tomtom blue and me on the vain hope it would work but yep you've guessed it......... It wouldn't pair.
The nav works fine and I've downloaded tomtom home and upgraded the blue and me software (nope still won't pair!) and added the Abarth start up screen and several 500 Abarth icons, so I have now resigned myself to this is the best I'm going to do, I thought I would post this if anyone else wanted to download the home tomtom the icon and themes
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: J_a_m_e_s on October 17, 2013, 09:57:25 pm
So you read many threads saying it doesn't work, but got it expecting it to work and now making a thread saying it doesn't work???
Oh my!
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 17, 2013, 10:04:33 pm
J-a-m-e-s
I need a sat nav so the reports on tom toms were good so I thought why not,perhaps software updates may be available, I was being slightly flippant, you being so sanctimonious isn't really required is it,
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 18, 2013, 11:21:50 am
If I remember correctly :whistle: Ian, you did get a new car so it should pair.
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 18, 2013, 12:28:04 pm
Hi 124Abarthreplica
Thanks for the post
You're correct I did get a new car but reading through the posts only the Abarth tomtom will pair as (from John the Vospers dealer) there is a line of data that the tomtom either needs or cannot read that prevents pairing it will pair with a fiat 500. I have also downloaded the latest software from tomtom for blue and me and still no luck. I think the blue and me box is different on the Abarth and so even though my car is the latest spec I don't think Abarth has changed any hardware, if anyone else can add to this I would be most grateful
The tomtom is a good product so although I can't have it working as I would like (and I do not use nav that much) it will still do a job
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 19, 2013, 10:32:23 am
Hi Ian I don't fully understand what's going on here :whistle:, normal for my age group :thumbd:
I bought a new Tom Tom 2 Live from Fiat with the option mount for the dash socket on my then new Fiat 500 Twinair over 2 years ago. They paired fine with all options. I then bought a new Abarth 500C from John 18 months ago and put the above Tom Tom in the Abarth with a new mount. After updating to v6 B&M it also pairs perfectly with navigation instructions on the speedo. Econ meter and fuel con. figures all fine between the units That was around 12 months ago and it's been fine since.
So what do I have that's different to you?? ???
I'm intrigued
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: John501 on October 19, 2013, 10:37:18 am
You have me intrigued now Bernie. As far as I knew only the Abarth branded Tom Tom would pair with an Abarth properly and allow the telemetery to work ??? You must have a freak of nature.......
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 19, 2013, 12:15:48 pm
Well you must have the only non Abarth working tomtom!! I suppose that you could have purchased an Abarth one without knowing it, I'm now going to try again, I'm assuming since I have a 63 plate the car will have the latest software is there any way to tell??
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 19, 2013, 12:41:56 pm
Just tried to pair it again, no joy, I think I need Bernie to donate his unique tomtom to me for further testing........possibly on a preeminent basis!!!!!
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: AdeyAbarth on October 19, 2013, 12:49:20 pm
Can you still get the Abarth variant john and if so does it display directions on the dials?
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 19, 2013, 01:07:10 pm
You have me intrigued now Bernie. As far as I knew only the Abarth branded Tom Tom would pair with an Abarth properly and allow the telemetery to work ??? You must have a freak of nature.......
For sale Tom Tom sat nav, bit of a freak really Offers over £1000 :whistle:
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 19, 2013, 02:05:58 pm
Tom Tom sat nav, bit of a freak really Offers over £1000
Very reasonable!!!!
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 19, 2013, 03:45:30 pm
Ian You are pairing the TT from the B&M icon?
I've also upped to v7 and it still works fine but I have not as yet noticed anything different with v7
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 19, 2013, 04:33:23 pm
Yes I'm going into changes menu, blue and me, try to pair I put in the four digit code but the TT say is bluetooth on
I've downloaded the latest software from TT HOME (I assume it's the latest) the TT just won't recognise the Abarth blue and me
I've also tried pairing via the Bluetooth option (no joy) but the TT picks up my iphone 5c no problem, you really must have a really rare unit!!!!
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 19, 2013, 04:34:55 pm
Is v7 the TT software?
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 19, 2013, 04:49:13 pm
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 19, 2013, 06:38:42 pm
HOW TO: PAIR AND SET BLUE&ME TOMTOM2
Turn on your Blue&Me TomTom2 and make the following settings. - Your language from the displayed list - lf you want to use the right or left hand - Unit of measurement (km/miles) - Map background - The voice you want Now you are ready to pair with Blue&Me.
Pairing and connecting. Three types of integration between car and TomTom2 are available: mechanical, electric and telematic. .@:plugthesupportprovidedinyourBlue&MeTomTom2boxintothe connection socket on the pillar or dashboard of the car. This support holds the TomTom2 and supplies it electrically (with key-on). No external wires are needed. . p!ge!!g: using Bluetooth technology, TomTom2 can communicate with the onboard Blue&Me system when the key is on.
Proceed as follow to activate communication: 1. Turn ignition key to the MAR-ON position. 2. Press the MAIN button on the steering wheel to open the Blue&Me home page on the onboard display of the car. 3. Use the arrow buttons on the steering wheelto go to the settings menu. 4. Select Settings and then Pair User. A 4 digit PIN code will appear on the onboard panel display. You will be using the PIN at a later stage. 5. Tap on the navigation device display to open the main menu. 6. Tap on Find Blue&Me. 7. Tap on Yes when you are asked whether to start searching for Blue&Me immediately. 8. Enter the Blue&Me PIN in the navigation device. The PIN is the one shown in step 4 above.
A message confirming correct connection will appear on the navigation device and on the onboard panel display. A confirmation message will appear whenever the Blue&Me TomTom2 device is connected or disconnected from Blue&Me.
Now on, connection will be established automatically when you turn on your car. The pairing procedure may need to be repeated in some cases. Remember that the PIN code changes each time. lf you want to pair a mobile phone as well, remember than the PIN code provided by Blue&Me will be different. You will need to repeat the pairing and connection procedure to connect Blue&Me TomTom2 to another car.
The following appears when it is turned on:
With the device connected, the new "Navigation System" option, will appear in the Blue&Me menu of the control panel. For the selections on your TomTom2 you can choose whether to use the touch screen mode or the steering wheelcontrols.
Steering wheel controls: o Press the MAIN button on the steering wheel controls
. Using the scroll buttons select > NAVIGATOR > and press OK o The Main Menu will appear on TomTom2. You can select the various functions directly on the display using the scroll buttons on the steering wheel both for setting a destination and for accessingthe CAR MENU. o You can see the following functions in the CAR MENU: o Mobile phone: when your mobile phone is paired with Blue&Me, you can scroll the phonebook and list of last calls and then select a name or enter a new number to make the call. o Trip computer: You can see the data of your journeys in the following modes on just one tt'"ln'rr,o A and Trip B: distance travelled, average fuel consumption, average speed and traveltime - lnstant information: instant range and fuel consumption o Customised vehicle information: eco:Trend info (Lancia), Fuel Efficiency info (Alfa Romeo), eco:Drive info (Fiat) will help you improve your driving style, telling you when you are using too much fuel and when to shift gear (function present on Euro5 with Start&Stop) e Media player: when you have a media player connected to the USB port you can select your music directly from the TomTom2 touch screen.
You can make the selections just described also with the voice controls. You can enable the selection with voice commands by pressing the voice interaction button and saying:
o "Navigato/' "Car Menu" o At this point you can choose between the following functions: o "Phone" o 'Trip computer" (see "steering wheel controls") o "eco:Trend", "eco:Drive" or "Fuel Efficiency" according to the brand of your car o "Media player" (This function is new and currently being launched according to car version).
Your Blue&Me TomTom2 includes allthe functions of the next-generation TomTom2. To learn more, go to the Products > What it is/What it offers sections.
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 19, 2013, 07:07:38 pm
Thanks for that, unfortunately once I enter the 4 PIN number it just will not recognise. I've looked at the blue and me site and v7 was July 2013 as my car is sept 2013 I would think its v7 anyway. So I think it's back to the software reading in my earlier post. I'm trying to see what version I have in the car but I cannot seem to find out how
Cheers
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 19, 2013, 08:32:07 pm
Assuming the car(s) have the same s/w perhaps we should look at the TTs.
On the bottom of mine is GO Model 4CS01
Is yours the same?
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 19, 2013, 08:51:09 pm
Mine says GO (4MFO.001.01)
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 19, 2013, 09:00:49 pm
I have also downloaded the latest TT software via HOME web page, it does pair with s 2010 standard Punto,
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 19, 2013, 09:08:16 pm
I have also downloaded the latest TT software via HOME web page, it does pair with s 2010 standard Punto,
Should be 'My Tom Tom' page not 'Home'
Your TT is the 'Blue&me Tom Tom 2 LIVE' ?
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 19, 2013, 09:15:39 pm
I think you're right it's my tomtom page which I accessed through the home page, regarding the TT Its 18 months old and has a small Ariel on the cradle
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 20, 2013, 09:12:37 am
This May or may not be relevant I've not paired my phone with the TT I assume that since it pairs perfectly with the B&M its pointless ?
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 20, 2013, 10:36:28 am
Does your serial number begin with TG?
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: AbarthMiniGurl on October 20, 2013, 10:58:02 am
Got to say my Abarth branded tom tom and dash mount works perfectly from day one, had it 6 months, no issues and paired easy as pie. ;D
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 20, 2013, 11:33:04 am
The serial number is w16041ko3052
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 20, 2013, 11:38:08 am
Got to say my Abarth branded tom tom and dash mount works perfectly from day one, had it 6 months, no issues and paired easy as pie. ;D
Unfortunately my TT is just a blue and me, as I've mentioned earlier I think the Abarth branded TT is the only one to talk correctly to the B&M which is a pain, I know you can buy a unit for around £350ish but then you need the sucker kit so it gets close to £400 which I really cannot justify
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 20, 2013, 11:48:58 am
Aha, we have now got to the bottom of it.
Your TT, according to TT website, is based on the Go 950 Live.
Mine is the Fiat supplied B&M TT 2 Live based on the Go 1000 series.
These retail around £300 but I have seen them cheaper and s/h, then you need a 1000 series sucker mount £35 :thumbd:
So I guess it's a step too far unless you sell your existing TT and start over :whistle:
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 20, 2013, 12:13:33 pm
Thanks for that at last the problem solved!!
I'll keep my eye out for one of those, I can always use the current nav so I don't mind paying for another as long as it will work as it should
I really appreciate your help on this as I know have details of what I need to get the correct unit
Thanks again
Cheers Ian
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 20, 2013, 01:55:01 pm
Pleasure :thumb:
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: John501 on October 21, 2013, 12:39:17 pm
Word of warning. I have had a TT live 2 series 1000 and it would not pair with the car. Don't rush out and buy the Fiat one thinking it will fix the problem, chances are it wont. I have no idea how Bernie has got his working, must be some sort of glitch in his unit. The Abarth branded one is still available and will pair with the car.
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 21, 2013, 03:39:28 pm
Excellent caveat John :thumb:
Still for sale but price rise £1500 or £5 cheaper than Johns':whistle:
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 21, 2013, 10:17:32 pm
Double bargain!!!!!! :thumb:
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: John501 on October 22, 2013, 10:37:26 am
Still for sale but price rise £1500 or £5 cheaper than Johns':whistle:
I see your ploy, flog yours then haggle me down a fiver for the Abarth one.... Shame on you ;D
As if John, as if
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: John501 on October 28, 2013, 12:11:06 pm
Right, this is getting stranger by the minute. I took delivery of 2 Abarth branded TOM Tom 2 live units this morning. Also got the correct sucker mounts for the windscreen (which are great by the way). Went to pair the unit with an Abarth 500 and it failed to pair. Wiped the cars memory, hot booted the TT and still nothing. This unit is clearly designed for the Punto (which it works fine with) and not the 500. This makes Bernie's case even more confusing ???
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 28, 2013, 06:52:03 pm
John was trying to pair this for me, and as you can see by his post that we drew a blank, I would like to place on the forum what a top bloke john is. He went out of his way to make sure the product was right for me.......sadly not but his time and effort were brilliant.
Many thanks John
If anyone can add any ideas to the pairing issue please post
Many thanks
Ian
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: jimmyl on October 28, 2013, 06:57:33 pm
Ok here goes if you want TT2 to work in the Abarth (series 2 only with the aux plug next to the usb) you must make sure it is flashed with the correct version of Blue&Me. I have this working on both my old 500 and my 595.
All UK Abarth 500/595 have the non TT2 firmware from the factory as you cannot have the dash port (68R) due to the boost gauge being there.
With the introduction of V7 Blue&Me you cannot manually select the correct version as it will always autoupdate to the non-TT2 version as installed from the factory.
Here is Blue&Me TomTom V7 firmware for 500/595 https://copy.com/OXeeyzot6Hn2gDgO (https://copy.com/OXeeyzot6Hn2gDgO) follow the install instructions and then you will be able to pair it to the car without problems.
It works perfectly and if you have a MTA version you get the directions on the dash speedo too.
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 28, 2013, 07:24:40 pm
Ok here goes if you want TT2 to work in the Abarth (series 2 only with the aux plug next to the usb) you must make sure it is flashed with the correct version of Blue&Me. I have this working on both my old 500 and my 595.
All UK Abarth 500/595 have the non TT2 firmware from the factory as you cannot have the dash port (68R) due to the boost gauge being there.
With the introduction of V7 Blue&Me you cannot manually select the correct version as it will always autoupdate to the non-TT2 version as installed from the factory.
Here is Blue&Me TomTom V7 firmware for 500/595 https://copy.com/OXeeyzot6Hn2gDgO (https://copy.com/OXeeyzot6Hn2gDgO) follow the install instructions and then you will be able to pair it to the car without problems.
It works perfectly and if you have a MTA version you get the directions on the dash speedo too.
Hi jimmy Thanks for the post. So do I download it on to a USB and plug it into the car? Any instructions would be very much appreciated.
Cheers
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: jimmyl on October 28, 2013, 07:37:43 pm
Hi Ian
There is a pdf in the zip follow it carefully and all will be improved! The only tips I can give is that it takes longer than you think and very important wait for her to say 'Update complete' before removing the usb.
Blue&Me is a bit picky on usb drives so if it doesn't work try another stick and another....
Good luck, version 7 it is the best they have produced, voice calls are better they seem to of increased there microphone gain to so no need to shout!
Oh and another, make sure you pair your phone with Blue&me and not the TomTom.
Good luck Jamie
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 28, 2013, 08:09:00 pm
Hi Jamie
Many thanks I will purchase a USB specifically for the upgrade, just a thought my car is a 63 plate so would it not be v7 from the factory ?
Cheers Ian
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: jimmyl on October 28, 2013, 08:11:26 pm
FREE with 2012 Abarth 500C esseesse MTA £16000 :thumb:
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: John501 on October 29, 2013, 02:39:24 pm
I can confirm that Jimmy is correct, the update allows the unit to pair to the car :thumb: Sorry Bernie, the price of yours has just plummeted like chucking a brick off a cliff (bit like buying a Bravo really)
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 29, 2013, 04:30:30 pm
Keep it quiet John and I'll go 50-50 with you :thumb:
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Ian hatton on October 29, 2013, 06:57:48 pm
I can confirm that Jimmy is correct, the update allows the unit to pair to the car
Glad to be service ;D
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: kidpyramid on June 11, 2014, 05:12:20 pm
Resurrecting this thread for some help! (Looking at you specifically John501). I recently purchased the 695 Maserati Edizione and am having the same problem described with pairing the Abarth Blue & Me TomTom to the car. Should I install ver. 7 as this thread suggests or is there now a newer version I should install?
Any help on this would be much appreciated. :thumb:
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Abarth695 on September 27, 2014, 12:46:17 pm
Once version 7 is on the car, future updates will recognise you have Tom tom and you should be able to install version 8 no problem
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on September 27, 2014, 01:55:30 pm
Resurrecting this thread for some help! (Looking at you specifically John501). I recently purchased the 695 Maserati Edizione and am having the same problem described with pairing the Abarth Blue & Me TomTom to the car. Should I install ver. 7 as this thread suggests or is there now a newer version I should install?
Any help on this would be much appreciated. :thumb:
Which generation of B&M is on your car, either first or second? Look at the faqs on page 5 http://www.blueandme.net/blueandme/index.aspx/index.aspx?brand=fga&lang=en#/support/faq/
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Atlgibson on October 03, 2014, 12:58:53 pm
Could any of you help me please. Don't want to have similar issues.
Do any of you know which Tom Tom I should buy whether it be the tomtom 2 live or a Abarth branded tomtom for my 63 plate APE. Was hoping to get one at Xmas.
Where is the best/cheapest place to buy from?
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on October 03, 2014, 04:44:27 pm
I use the FIAT TOM TOM live 2 that comes with the plug in holder (option 68R).
It suit me fine and shows up on car's speedo display. :thumb:
I have no knowledge of Abarth version
Title: Re: Tomtom blue and me
Post by: Atlgibson on October 03, 2014, 05:05:29 pm