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Abarth Cars => Classic Abarth => Topic started by: Jonnio on March 08, 2012, 07:44:46 pm

Title: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on March 08, 2012, 07:44:46 pm
CAR SPECIFICATIONS:

- Model : HGT Abarth
- Engine size : 1.8 16v
- Year : 2001
- Colour : Broom Yellow

ENGINE MODIFICATIONS :

- GSR Induction Kit
- Supersprint Manifold
- Supersprint Front/Centre Pipe (with Jetex sports catalyst)
- Supersprint Rear Silencer
- Oil Catch tank
- Gloss Black Oil Cap
- Gloss Black Rocker Cover
- Gloss Black Coil Pack Cover

STYLING MODIFICATIONS:

- Colour Coded Handles
- VALEO Silencio X.TRM Retrofit Wipers
- Fiat Headlight Protectors

INTERIOR:

- Geniune Abarth Mats
- FIAT logo tax disc holder

CHASSIS:

- Eibach Pro-Street S Coilovers
- OMP Front Upper Strut Brace
- 5mm Spacers all round
- 15" Speedline Turinis (Anthracite)
- Michelin Exalto PE2 Tyres
- Ferodo DS2000 Pads
- Red Dot 20 Groove Discs
- Braided brake lines

ICE:

- Standard

PICTURES:

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMG_9885.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMG_9892.jpg)

VIDEOS:

Fiat Punto HGT Abarth - Supersprint Exhaust - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIFxX1skxWs

Punto HGT Abarth - Oulton Park (03-03-2012) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrtSDZgFNrM&feature=youtu.be
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Joe on March 08, 2012, 07:51:31 pm
I properly like that. Tastefully modified, great colour...  8)

Get yourself to some North West meets - you'd be more than welcome!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: olig on March 08, 2012, 07:54:48 pm
Thats proper cool!
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: amazed on March 08, 2012, 07:55:35 pm
Very nice! 8)
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: scuderia sitar on March 08, 2012, 08:06:22 pm
Obviously well cared for.  Looks really nice.
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: GTMartin on March 08, 2012, 08:08:49 pm
Very nice yellow, I know one or two that would like their A500 in the same colour :thumb:
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: olig on March 08, 2012, 08:17:05 pm
You should bring it to 'Lemons'  :thumb:
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: scuderia sitar on March 08, 2012, 08:17:58 pm
Very nice yellow, I know one or two that would like their A500 in the same colour :thumb:

Me please  :thumb:
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Yordan on March 08, 2012, 11:06:21 pm
NICE  :thumb:
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on March 21, 2012, 11:00:36 am
Get yourself to some North West meets - you'd be more than welcome!  :thumb:

I'll keep that in mind! Cheers for the comments people!

Bit of an update. Recently I picked up a pair of Sparco Abarth seats, from what I have read these were a ~£700 option when new and there are very few sets (possibly only 3) in the country. A few years back these were changing hands for £300+, and I have not seen another set for sale in years.

Found them on eBay, covered in filth with minor damage and got them for £70.

As they arrived.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMG_8852.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMG_8853.jpg)

Cleaned up as best I can with a hoover/household steam cleaner/stain remover/scrubbing.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMG_8866.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMG_8867.jpg)

Have got a upholstery cleaning guy coming to have a go at them later so hopefully he will get better results as there are still quite a lot of stains on them.

If they can be cleaned up to a decent standard, few bits replaced and some minor repairs done then I am hoping they will be in good enough condition for me to be happy about fitting them. If not then I aim to get them fully retrimmed, can't be letting the car down with dodgy looking seats!

They do seem to tick all the boxes for me though as I have been wondering about getting more supportive seats for a while but also feel the need to retain the OEM look.
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: davey2872 on March 26, 2012, 05:26:56 pm
Hi I have a pair of these Sparco Abarth seats in my HGT when I got mine they were grubby like yours you can take the covers off no problem I put them in the washing mashine on a cold short wash they are like new now just take out the 4 bolts at the bottom of the seat and lift the tabs holding the cloth the back is easy just pulls off hope this has helped.
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on March 30, 2012, 10:09:21 am
Hi I have a pair of these Sparco Abarth seats in my HGT when I got mine they were grubby like yours you can take the covers off no problem I put them in the washing mashine on a cold short wash they are like new now just take out the 4 bolts at the bottom of the seat and lift the tabs holding the cloth the back is easy just pulls off hope this has helped.

I might have a go at this! Was planning on swapping as much as the subframe/runners as I could with the stuff fitted to my car at the minute, so will have a look when I take them off.

The guy that came to clean them did a pretty good job but there there are still some darker areas around the bolsters.

Should be picking up some new parts for them from Mangoletsi in the next few days.
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: FWD_Boy on March 30, 2012, 10:25:02 pm
Im loving this, get some more pic's up and although in the wrong part of the country, get along to a meet and show it off :thumb:
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: davey2872 on March 31, 2012, 09:00:10 pm
It took me a day to do one seat hang them on the line don't tumble dry them or they might shrink, they are showroom fresh now they were so dirty that the guy a purchased them from only wanted a ton with my old HGT seats in with the deal as he was selling the car anyway, I also have the Abarth covers for the rear seats too they are like hens teeth to find I purchased 3 new sets of these on the German Ebay £35 each kept one and sold each pair for £90 on UK Ebay they went like hot cakes as you can imagine.
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on April 02, 2012, 07:29:50 pm
Im loving this, get some more pic's up and although in the wrong part of the country, get along to a meet and show it off :thumb:

Cheers! I need to remember to keep checking on here for local things! That said the Cholmondeley Pageant of Power isn't far...

It took me a day to do one seat hang them on the line don't tumble dry them or they might shrink, they are showroom fresh now they were so dirty that the guy a purchased them from only wanted a ton with my old HGT seats in with the deal as he was selling the car anyway, I also have the Abarth covers for the rear seats too they are like hens teeth to find I purchased 3 new sets of these on the German Ebay £35 each kept one and sold each pair for £90 on UK Ebay they went like hot cakes as you can imagine.

Thats some nice profit!

Decided against putting them in the washer although it might happen one day. Got fed up of them sitting in the garage so had a play at the weekend and got the driver's side in. Absolutely transformed how it feels to drive!

When you fitted your set did you manage to get rid of the Airbag warning light with resistors? If so any info on what I need/fitting would be great!

Couple of pics...

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMG_8947.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMG_8949.jpg)
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: davey2872 on April 03, 2012, 03:33:51 pm
Hi it's a shame you didn't wash them trust me the muck that came out of mine they look new the Abarth badge is a bit faded though,as to the air bag my hgt seats didn't have them they must have been an option extra as I've seen many with or without, you car looks sorted,I've thought about putting Supersprint on mine but have kept it standed with a new exhaust right through I knocked out those bloody Pre-cats as they do sod all as mine is a 2002. I do like to keep things standed spec but I do like your wheels mine are the multispoke Abarth 15 inchers I think they look more better than the claws my car is black and a pain in the rear to keep clean it was an hgt car but I have sourced all the a Abarth kit right down to the pedals and headlight protectors just need side skirts but that will have to wait. As for the engine bay I had the rocker cover and coil cover powder coated red as these tend to turn to dust hand cam belt done, Bosch battery,new coils,thermostat,new discs and pads,wishbones and I lowered it with Omp shocks at the front and Koni at the rear with spax springs I will send some photos when I can sort out how to do it. 
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on January 18, 2013, 11:56:36 am
Hi it's a shame you didn't wash them trust me the muck that came out of mine they look new the Abarth badge is a bit faded though,as to the air bag my hgt seats didn't have them they must have been an option extra as I've seen many with or without, you car looks sorted,I've thought about putting Supersprint on mine but have kept it standed with a new exhaust right through I knocked out those bloody Pre-cats as they do sod all as mine is a 2002. I do like to keep things standed spec but I do like your wheels mine are the multispoke Abarth 15 inchers I think they look more better than the claws my car is black and a pain in the rear to keep clean it was an hgt car but I have sourced all the a Abarth kit right down to the pedals and headlight protectors just need side skirts but that will have to wait. As for the engine bay I had the rocker cover and coil cover powder coated red as these tend to turn to dust hand cam belt done, Bosch battery,new coils,thermostat,new discs and pads,wishbones and I lowered it with Omp shocks at the front and Koni at the rear with spax springs I will send some photos when I can sort out how to do it.

Hugely late reply lol.

Managed to get the airbag light sorted fairly easily. Found some airbag resistor kits for sale on eBay, shoved them in, taped them up and got the ECU reset when it went in for the MOT. Was surprised when it actually worked, didn't expect it to be that easy!

I had my rocker and coil pack cover coated black, painted up the oil cap myself to match as well!

Pics would be cool if you still own it lol!
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on March 21, 2013, 12:15:09 pm
Mini update, bought some of these over the weekend on the off chance that they would fit, they showed up yesterday and this is the result!

FIAT/ABARTH 500/500C SHOCK TOP MOUNT COVER'S - GENUINE FIAT PARTS (http://"http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181030942482?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649")

Before (excuse the filthy bay)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMAG1151.jpg)

After

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMAG1152.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMAG1154.jpg)

Screwed on perfectly and don't look to shabby. Need to find more stuff to scavenge from the newer cars I think!
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Tom 91 on April 03, 2013, 09:29:47 pm
Stunning example, always had sweet spot for these and I'd say yours look perfect!
Title: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Nadeem on April 03, 2013, 11:04:26 pm
You should come to the next North West Italian Car Club meet - if you frequent Mangoletsi I'm assuming you are fairly local?
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on April 25, 2013, 03:13:39 pm
I might try to at some point seeing as though it's getting lighter. It's about 45 minutes up to the Trafford Centre from where I live.

I've decided not to bother with Mangoletsi again after ordering those parts last year lol.
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: FWD_Boy on June 16, 2013, 10:49:49 pm
Engine bay looks ace mate :thumb:

Keep posting pic's, the more non 500 and AGP/APE the better in my book
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on March 25, 2014, 06:02:30 pm
Just going to drop a few posts in to get this up to date...
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on March 25, 2014, 06:07:26 pm
These were from the trackday that I did in February (2013!), first time I used the helmet I got for my birthday last November (2012) too (still only worn it twice now!). My brother left half way through the day as he nearly threw up after one session!

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Oulton%20Park%2016022013/XSP_0101.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Oulton%20Park%2016022013/XSP_0305.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Oulton%20Park%2016022013/XSP_0394.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Oulton%20Park%2016022013/_XXX1938.jpg)

Spotted in a vid! - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY9Qgnlrf1A&t=3m56s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY9Qgnlrf1A&t=3m56s)

That arse shot!
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on March 25, 2014, 06:17:34 pm
In September I attended the Abarthisti rolling road day at Tuning Developments in Warrington, who clearly had a specific market with the cars parked up outside.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Abarthisti/Tuning%20Developments%20Rolling%20Road%20Day%2006-10-2013/IMG_3887.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Abarthisti/Tuning%20Developments%20Rolling%20Road%20Day%2006-10-2013/IMG_3892.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Abarthisti/Tuning%20Developments%20Rolling%20Road%20Day%2006-10-2013/IMG_3953.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Abarthisti/Tuning%20Developments%20Rolling%20Road%20Day%2006-10-2013/IMG_3963.jpg)

All of the 500's ran between 150-160bhp (I think one just went over 160). This includes a mixture of standard, mapped and an esseesse model which got 155. The Punto got a few positive comments on how tidy it looked which was nice. The guys running the dyno seemed to have a good look in the engine bay when it was on the rollers. Both of them gave the GSR a squeeze lol.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Abarthisti/Tuning%20Developments%20Rolling%20Road%20Day%2006-10-2013/IMG_3957.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Abarthisti/Tuning%20Developments%20Rolling%20Road%20Day%2006-10-2013/IMG_3928.jpg)

And here's the graph, variator just kicked in YO!

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/J22HGT06-11-2013TuningDevelopmentsWarrington.jpg)

Nowhere near the 150bhp forum miracle figure that I should get "with these mods" that I have seen thrown up lots over the years, nor the 135 that I was hoping for...or the 130 standard figure! The guy from Tuning Developments said that it could do with a remap, something which isn't possible on this ECU as far as I know. So unless I go with standalone engine management I'd probably be better off returning a few bits to standard! We shall see!
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on March 25, 2014, 06:21:57 pm
My birthday happened to coincide with a Trackday at Oulton last November, so I decided it would be rude not to go! Took the girlfriend out for the first time, she eventually calmed down/went quiet and stopped telling me to slow down! She had a couple of drives out on track which were interesting for me in the passenger seat. Could do with a LHD subframe as it doesn't sit low enough!

Had another session with an instructor who was very complimentary, kept saying perfect and that I should take up racing lol!

Toward the end of the day a 205 undertook me coming out of a corner literally as I had started indicating to move over for them which was mega stupid, put a complaint in then went out for the last ten minutes.

Heading down into Cascades with the sun setting in front of you is brilliant.

Got some pics, not too impressed with the variety. Guess it's just pot luck though!

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/DSC_3350.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/DSC_2695.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/DSC_2226.jpg)

Spotted myself on a vid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4q_NanUTms&t=10m1s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4q_NanUTms&t=10m1s)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4q_NanUTms&t=11m31s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4q_NanUTms&t=11m31s)

Like I said, Oulton Park + Sunset = :love:
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: leroya500 on March 25, 2014, 06:28:39 pm
Looks like a good day mate! Did the same on my bday at Donny park last yr! Lol
Get yerself over here and try the craners in your totally amazing punto
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on March 25, 2014, 06:29:08 pm
Not exactly about the car but it's related!

Over the past year or so I've slowly been messing around with my garage, trying to tart it up a bit(/lot). The first thing I did way back when I first moved in was board out the loft space and stuff it full of insulation, then nothing much happened until spring last year. It used to be the office for the show homes so has boarded walls and skirts, and few power sockets jotted around.  Here's a few pics from the thread which show how it was when I moved in.

Rough textured plaster walls with lots of flaking cream paint, a few big holes and lots of wall plugs. Dirty skirts and plug sockets.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMG_20120715_161404.jpg)

Standard double door. Floor with a couple of small holes in.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMG_8851.jpg)

I had all my shelving/workbench/fridge set up on the right hand side of the garage (as you walk in) with a few Fast Car posters and Top Gear calendar pictures stuck up to hide the wall a bit!

First thing I did was decide to paint the bare wooden door frame mounts on the roof white, after that I decided I might as well do the whole lot! I bought some cheap grey and white paint from B&Q and a few others bits I would need and started off by pulling all the wall plugs and anything else that shouldn't be stuck in the walls out. Next I tried to sand the walls completely flat...it took about an hour to do roughly 2 square foot. With that idea abandoned I continued with the sander and just gave them a "quick" going over, getting rid of the larger protruding bits of plaster. Holes were filled, skirts sanded and then I cracked on with the paint. I think it took about 4 coats of the grey on the walls before I was happy! The skirts were painted with satin white.

The roof needed a few holes filling and was given a couple of coats of white to freshen it up. The loft access hatch was also repainted. The board to cover it was hinged and a catch fitted so that it could be opened and held vertically, instead of having to slide it out of the way.  I also ended up painting the metal frame that the door lifts into to match the walls/roof, although only on one side. So the other needs doing at some point!

Next I replaced all of the power socket/light fittings. Whilst doing this I tested a few which had been blanked off. 2 were at normal socket height and another at the height of a light switch, all of which had no power going to them. There is a junction/trip box in there containing a huge mess of wires which I could do with getting somebody to look at. Along with the unpowered bits inside the garage there are also 2 exterior lights on the side facing the main road (assuming they were lighting a sign up) and an external socket which have no power to them.

Setting up my speakers was next, these had been wall mounted prior to decorating although the wires  were just hung down the walls and hidden behind things. They are a set of Creative 6.1 speakers which I think I got for Christmas when I was 15. I refitted them to the walls where they were originally, 3 on the back wall, 3 above the door, and the sub under the workbench. A few lengths of cable trunking and suitable connectors were bought and mounted around the top edges of the walls and the wiring hidden away. Nice and tidy!

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Garage/Improvements%2017-03-2014/IMG_4813.jpg)

I then decided that I wanted a few wall units for some extra storage space, I didn't bother getting doors for them although that may change in the future. With all of my shelving/workbench/fridge moved to the left hand side of the garage it allows me to reverse in nice and close to the wall on the right and easily get out of the driver's side, definitely an improvement over climbing out of the passenger door! So this is how it currently looks.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Garage/Improvements%2017-03-2014/IMG_4811.jpg)

Some spare trunking was used to run wires to the laptop and I have wall mounted an individually switched 4 gang extension (with some bonus USB ports for charging my phone!). As the laptop wasn't able to get a very good wireless signal I bought a set of powerline adaptors to wire it up properly. It works great although I haven't figured out how to set the network up properly yet. It connects to my other computer fine on the wireless but nothing through the wired solution, although the internet works fine? Did ask my computer genius mate to check it sometime but it's not happened yet.

Models :top:, I think a Zonda R and a couple of GTRs are needed as well.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Garage/Improvements%2017-03-2014/IMG_4832.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Garage/Improvements%2017-03-2014/IMG_4828.jpg)

Deciding that I was bored of fumbling around in the dark to either enter or leave the garage at night I bought a motion sensing light and mounted it opposite to the smoke alarm on the ceiling. Great success! It's pretty good at bringing out swirls though!

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Garage/Improvements%2017-03-2014/IMG_4814.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Garage/Improvements%2017-03-2014/IMG_4815.jpg)

Having noticed over winter that even with the heater still on, sitting in there (on the HGT seat screwed to a kitchen cabinet playing racing games) I really noticed how cold it was. The next thing on the list was to try and warm the place up!

The first thing to sort was the gap in between the metal frame and wood running above the door. Expanding foam sorted this...

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Garage/Improvements%2017-03-2014/IMG_4836.jpg)

Then I decided to sort the gap between the top of the door and the wood running along it. After trying to figure out the best way to seal it I found The Garage Door Guru (http://"http://stores.ebay.co.uk/THE-GARAGE-DOOR-GURU") on eBay. The 90 degree seals they had for sale looked spot on for closing this gap so I bought one and got it fitted on the outside of the door at the start of the year.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Garage/Improvements%2017-03-2014/IMG_4821.jpg)

Next I covered the inside of the door fully with some general purpose insulation rolls (the foil/bubble wrap stuff) and then filled the recesses with polystyrene insulatation. This is the result...

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Garage/Improvements%2017-03-2014/IMG_4822.jpg)

Also in the picture above is the second Garage Door Guru 90 degree door seal which I have fitted to the top edge of the door to seal against the wooden beam. I originally thought this would be best done with a 180 degree seal but changed my mind when I saw that they were roughly double the price of the 90 degree ones. :hmmmm2:

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Garage/Improvements%2017-03-2014/IMG_4820.jpg)

With plenty of leftover bits of insulation I have started to cover/fill the areas above the door, and will probably continue around the edges and onto the exposed brickwork.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Garage/Improvements%2017-03-2014/IMG_4818.jpg)

As you may have spotted from the full door picture above there are still gaps where the sunlight, warm and cold air gets through which I plan to plug at some point! Also I want to get another 90 degree seal to be fitted onto the bottom of the door, replacing the crappy brushes which are fitted at the moment. It's much more comfortable in there on cold days and with the nice weather we have had recently I have definitely noticed it to be a lot cooler in there. Last year the heat would pass straight through the door and turn it into a furness!

So, future plans/ideas for the garage.

- Finish insulating/sealing around the door.
- Possibly cover the insulation and paint it to match the walls (already got some plaster style wallpaper).
- Insulate the back of the loft hatch cover.
- Paint the other door mount and electric box.
- Figure out what to do with the floor (holes need filling and then maybe put carpet tiles down or paint it).
- Fit a piece of missing skirting board (found some spare underneath the bath the other day!)
- Get some awesome pictures of the car framed/canvassed and hung on the walls. I've got an old advert for the HGT Abarth that came out of some magazine that could be framed and put up too.
- Make a sink area with standalone water heater?
- Do some more unnecessary stuff!
- Start paying attention to what needs doing to the house instead?  :sleep:

Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on March 25, 2014, 06:38:25 pm
More recently I went to the Stoke/Staffs meet which by some miracle ended up on the warmest day of the year yet! - https://www.abarthforum.co.uk/meets-and-events/stoke-on-trent-februarymarch-2014/30/

I have also just booked a Sprint Taster day at Barkston Heath near Grantham this Sunday! If anybody lives nearby and fancies it, come and back me up! Currently the only Italian car on the list! - http://www.javelintrackdays.co.uk/trackday/index.php?option=com_wrapper&view=wrapper&Itemid=724
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on March 25, 2014, 06:40:14 pm
Looks like a good day mate! Did the same on my bday at Donny park last yr! Lol
Get yerself over here and try the craners in your totally amazing punto

Cheers! I do need to venture out from Oulton (hence the sprint day!) so it will probably happen at some point!
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Freebo on March 25, 2014, 07:56:44 pm
Love the car mate. I've been promising to buy my mum one of these for years but haven't got round to it yet. I may even have to buy myself one too :)
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on April 03, 2014, 05:03:09 pm
So, got up nice and early for the drive over to Lincolnshire. I'm sure the neighbours loved hearing the Supersprint at 6 in the morning.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Barkston%20Heath%2030-03-2014/IMAG2395.jpg)

Early morning on a Sunday meant a nice relaxing drive over, stopped to fill up (and do some last minute weight reduction...) at a Shell garage then carried on to the Barkston Heath.


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Barkston Heath Airfield is home to the Royal Air Force Elementary Flying School. It was also once home to a forest of Bloodhound ground to air missiles. Javelin Trackdays has for a few years now used the former missile site compound and sections of the concrete peritrack to host a variety of different events.


The setup for the day was a timed sprint track on the old missile compound, run side by side with a handling course on the nearby WW2 runway. Having completed the briefing and 2 sighting runs on each track both courses opened and we could choose between the 2 throughout the day. I had a quick go on the sprint track and then tried the handling course.

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With the rough old concrete surface (some cones were even in the middle of the track to mark huge potholes), it felt pretty nasty to drive on and wouldn't be doing the tyres any good, so after one run...

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(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Barkston%20Heath%2030-03-2014/XSP_0084.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Barkston%20Heath%2030-03-2014/XSP_0085.jpg)

...I decided to stick with the smooth tarmac sprint track!

Vid (not mine) of the sprint track here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QuGUEBVTqg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QuGUEBVTqg)

After about an hour of practice the timer was turned on, and these were the times that I managed to record (it was a bit of a pain trying to remember and type them into my phone!) throughout the day.

1:08.42
1:08.90
1:08.24
1:07.20
1:06.60
1:06.09
1:06.80
1:06.40
1:06.13
1:05.06
1:05.17

The timing equipment was working great in the morning session but was completely useless towards lunch and after. It did throw up a few times later in the day resulting in the 1:05's, I was trying to get below 1:06 for quite a while but to beat it by a whole second made me a bit sceptical! Then again I must have had quite a few runs where the timing equipment was down.

Luckily (Skillfully?) I managed to avoid all of the white markers out on the track, although quite a few mirrors and panels got scuffed on other cars.

Another thing I noticed was how strange the car felt from a standing start. I guess the amount of rubber on the ground really accentuates how the engine performs? Could feel the dips and rises in performance going up through the rev range, never felt anything like it on the road!

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Barkston%20Heath%2030-03-2014/XSP_0134.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Barkston%20Heath%2030-03-2014/XSP_0154.jpg)

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After the first few runs I got talking to a lonely GT86 owner parked next to me, he had managed a 1:03 early on.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Barkston%20Heath%2030-03-2014/IMG_4849.jpg)

Later in the day after talking to the other GT86 owners he got a bit of tuition from one of the Fensport guys and got a low 1:01. The more experience drivers managed to break the minute mark with the GT86s.

I kept having runs right up until the event finished, said bye to my new car friend and then headed home! It was a good day although spoilt by the timing equipment breaking.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Barkston%20Heath%2030-03-2014/XSP_0112.jpg)

Here are a few pics from around the paddock.

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Red Golf had travelled from the North West as well, fairly certain I've met them at Oulton before.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Barkston%20Heath%2030-03-2014/IMG_4844.jpg)

86 Drivers Club

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(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Barkston%20Heath%2030-03-2014/IMG_4837.jpg)

The only BRZ in the country?

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Barkston%20Heath%2030-03-2014/IMG_4839.jpg)

86 with Turbo and electronically controlled suspension.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Barkston%20Heath%2030-03-2014/IMG_4847.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Barkston%20Heath%2030-03-2014/IMG_4838.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Barkston%20Heath%2030-03-2014/IMG_4841.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Barkston%20Heath%2030-03-2014/IMG_4846.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Barkston%20Heath%2030-03-2014/IMG_4848.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Trackdays/Barkston%20Heath%2030-03-2014/IMG_4852.jpg)

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Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on September 18, 2014, 11:47:42 am
Mini Update and a random pic from April time!

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMG_4932edited.jpg)

Changed the oil and filter changed myself on Saturday after borrowing a strap wrench, ripped some skin off my palm trying to get the filter off by hand...

MOT passed yesterday!

Also booked it into Heath Road Garage (Sandbach) for the belts on the 30th. Breakdown of quote below if anybodies interested, they said they always do the waterpumps at the same time so it'll get done too.

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Cambelt kit - £75
Waterpump - £37
Aux belt - £18
Anti Freeze - £15
Labour 3.5 hours - £140

Total - £285 + VAT (£342 including)

Might have to book a trackday after all this maintenance!
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on September 30, 2014, 09:12:18 am
Car dropped off, along with Jonnio's Extended Edition Service Manual...I've run out of stamp spaces so made some more lol.
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on October 30, 2014, 01:02:26 pm
Was in the garage til 2am last night, messing with a Mobius action camera, lens cable extension and a spare GPS receiver from puntospares...

Driver's view

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Punto%20HGT%20Mobius%20Camera/IMAG3072.jpg)

Behind the mirror

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Punto%20HGT%20Mobius%20Camera/IMAG3074.jpg)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Punto%20HGT%20Mobius%20Camera/IMAG3073.jpg)

Exterior

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/Punto%20HGT%20Mobius%20Camera/IMAG3075.jpg)

It's not 100% yet, I could do with dremelling some more of the GPS case away to lift the lens up slightly and possibly move it back so that it's not in contact with the window. At the moment it captures the top of the dash and ideally I am going for just the bonnet with maybe a thin sliver of dash.

The GPS case literally just slides between the window and a small mount on the back of the mirror, which pushes it against the windscreen. The body of the camera is fixed with velcro to the mount, so it should all be easy to take out if the velcro stays put. I found a nice fitting grommet to fill the hole where the lens originally was and used the original GPS grommet where it runs into the GPS case.

There is wiring going to the GPS receiver so it might be possible to wire it in properly, but I have no real clue so I'll stick to batteries for the moment!
 
I think there might be enough room to fit the innards of the camera into the GPS case along with the lens, sorting the buttons and heat sink would be hard the hardest bit. Memory card could just stay in there and I guess the USB could be sorted with a short mini to female USB cable, would take more space up inside though unless I cut another hole into it.

For now I'll just get the lens pointing where i want and make sure everything is secure for Oulton Park next Friday!
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on December 22, 2014, 06:15:40 pm
Managed to get the passenger seat back in the car for the trackday, also fitted another Mobius camera facing out of the back window. The trackday itself was very wet with quite a few people spinning/going off, still really enjoyed it though! Very impressed with the quality of the videos I got, seem to have picked up a few random clicks when editing but never mind...

Oulton Park 07/11/2014

Morning Session 1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpuiUn-biUs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpuiUn-biUs)

Morning Session 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALj1nRpOylo (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALj1nRpOylo)

Managed to get a marshal to blue flag my mate in his 270bhp LCR coming out of knickerbrook which was a highlight! Of course he floored it to avoid further embarrassment lol. Video of that to come!

I have also bought a few Sharpies, and touched up the faded badges on the Abarth seats! Pretty good transformation really! I assume that a sweaty trackday won't cause the ink to transfer to my back...
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on December 24, 2014, 02:33:00 pm
Another one done, 2 more to go.

Oulton Park 07/11/2014

Morning Session 3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mSLy83F1uQ&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mSLy83F1uQ&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on December 30, 2014, 09:54:56 am
Last 2 done, the first one has quite a few MX5s in it! The second has me blue flagging my mate who then goes off in a hurry, then an Evo going into the wall.  :o

Oulton Park 07/11/2014

Afternoon Session 1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuWq6eTpaRs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZuWq6eTpaRs)

Afternoon Session 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tskTC5rVujQ&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tskTC5rVujQ&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on April 12, 2015, 11:17:54 am
Managed to break one of my headlight protectors late last year, just found a replacement set on eBay so got them bought.

Also the girlfriend invited a few mates round on Friday before they all went out so I hid in the garage and Sharpie'd the black bits on my drivers seat Abarth badge (the passenger seat black looked okay). Some pics of the transformation. Both had red and yellows done a few months ago. Not sure on the blue yet, have tested a couple of different ones in the corners but might just leave them as they are.

Testing Red & Yellow

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMAG3213.jpg) (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/DJJonnio/media/IMAG3213.jpg.html)

Red & Yellow done

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMAG3232.jpg) (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/DJJonnio/media/IMAG3232.jpg.html)

Black WIP

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMAG3526.jpg) (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/DJJonnio/media/IMAG3526.jpg.html)

Black done

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMG_7044_1.jpg) (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/DJJonnio/media/IMG_7044_1.jpg.html)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w63/DJJonnio/IMG_7052.jpg) (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/DJJonnio/media/IMG_7052.jpg.html)

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Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: AntR on September 13, 2015, 09:42:04 pm
Hey mate, what oil do you use on your HGT? I have been told Selenia 20k 10w40 is fine but it is semi-synthetic.
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on November 06, 2015, 01:35:57 pm
I do use Selenia 20k, change it roughly every 12 months due to limited use.
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: AntR on November 23, 2015, 01:34:44 pm
Thanks mate. Just put some Selenia in it  :)
Mine is a silver HGT Abarth Punto, I will put up some pictures when I have time.
I do have to fix my foggy headlamps and the peeling off scorpion wheels  :-X It looks awful!
Yours is truly magnificient!
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Abarthian on May 22, 2017, 11:06:43 am
Sorry for bring this topic back if it was closed. But Jonnio your HGT has been a bit of an inpsiration, have you still got it mate?
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on June 14, 2018, 09:11:53 am
Sorry for bring this topic back if it was closed. But Jonnio your HGT has been a bit of an inpsiration, have you still got it mate?

Slightly late reply (:whistle:) but yes!

Nothing has really changed, I've recently been trying to find someone that might be interested in trying to fit standalone engine management as the car feels like it's underperforming (even compared to standard). I've always been under the assumption that the factory ECU is holding it back with the exhaust/intake bolt ons.

Best advice I've had up to now is buy something turbocharged like a Fiesta ST if I want to go quick for cheap (not really the point!) or that there is actually an underlying fault causing the issue.
Closest actual figure I've been given is £4k for standalone but even then costs could still differ when it actually comes to doing it. I had £2-3k in my head so that's a fair jump.

I'd love to keep pushing through slowly with this and turn it into something special, ECU with a bit of a power bump, refurbed gearbox (maybe a six speed so it actually matches the sticker that Fiat put on the gator plastic!) LSD, all rust sorted etc. but :insert head smashing against wall emoji here:

Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on June 26, 2018, 11:33:56 am
So after getting a few quotes for around £250 odd to have the compression, timing and exhaust pressure checked I decided to just refit some standard bits and see what happened before spending money. I pulled the standard backbox out of the roof and quickly realised there was a good length of pipe missing from the centre silencer which must have been cut to fit the Supersprint rear silencer. So that was off the cards.

I then got the standard airbox/induction out, and managed to get it refitted after removing my catch tank.

I wasn't holding my breath but was genuinely surprised at the performance improvement. The dips/flatspots in power have gone and it pulls so much better. I emailed the guy that suggested the car might have faults to report this and he asked for a picture of the GSR. As soon as looked at it he said that it doesn't have a resonator on it like the standard one which can add power at certain points in the rev range.

So I'm happy that the car is running better now but it's just a pain in the arse to realise I've had the solution in storage all along, and have thought for years that it was the ECU not being able to cope with the mods.
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: BMS on September 28, 2018, 09:05:34 am
HI John
I came across this thread when searching for stuff about HGT's. I do think these Hitachi ECU's are particularly sensitive to changes. They aren't running an airflow meter and changing intake and exhaust will be changing the MAP sensor readings and causing the ECU to add incorrect fuel & spark (the spark is possibly more the issue).

So I do think although a proper manufacturer air intake is arguably better than a bad aftermarket one I'm not sure all of the blame lies with the intake itself. It is clear though that with the variable intake runners that FIAT designed this engine to utilise resonant frequencies to boost torque.

The only sure fire way to get more power would be like you mention an aftermarket ECU (Emeralds start about £700) but then there's all the issues you'll get with check lights. There's a good thread here about a chap who built a 2 litre version - can't link but search "guy croft forum fiat punto hgt build"

I am thinking about dropping in the Alfa 2.0 TSpark but using the FIAT head and going the whole hog with throttle bodies and cams with standalone ECU.

Anyway it's great that you've been using the old girl in anger. These cars got a bad wrap from the press but really what's not to like? A cracking 1.8 Litre engine (better than all it's class rivals at the time) a brilliant 5 speed box with superb ratios. OK the suspension is a bit like riding a pogo stick but at least it focusses the mind !
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on July 13, 2019, 07:19:53 pm
So after getting a few quotes for around £250 odd to have the compression, timing and exhaust pressure checked I decided to just refit some standard bits and see what happened before spending money. I pulled the standard backbox out of the roof and quickly realised there was a good length of pipe missing from the centre silencer which must have been cut to fit the Supersprint rear silencer. So that was off the cards.

I then got the standard airbox/induction out, and managed to get it refitted after removing my catch tank.

I wasn't holding my breath but was genuinely surprised at the performance improvement. The dips/flatspots in power have gone and it pulls so much better. I emailed the guy that suggested the car might have faults to report this and he asked for a picture of the GSR. As soon as looked at it he said that it doesn't have a resonator on it like the standard one which can add power at certain points in the rev range.

So I'm happy that the car is running better now but it's just a pain in the arse to realise I've had the solution in storage all along, and have thought for years that it was the ECU not being able to cope with the mods.

Righty then, 1 year later.

When the standard intake went back on last year, there was a definite improvement. I had a little run out following the girlfriend in her Swift Sport thinking it would at least be level. No, the Swift pulled away still. Oh well "management" etc.

I did trackdays at Anglesey, Cadwell and Snetterton at the back end of 2018. Snetterton was the least enjoyable, big long straights and tight corners to lose all my momentum through. The only car I could pull slightly on there was a Toyota IQ so I got all miserable and locked it away for winter.

Get it back on the road this year and it just felt poor, below 4000rpm seem ok but then it was just flat all the way to redline. Went back to Cadwell, didn't go any quicker than 80mph all day and lost speed up the hills. I still enjoyed throwing it around in the tight bits but within a couple of weeks had it looked and and found that the throttle body was only opening ~65% of the way with the pedal down fully.

£20, second hand throttle body and a couple of hours cleaning and fitting it and the car is completely different! So when I said last year that putting the standard intake on was the "solution all along", no, a working throttle body is the solution! I'm assuming it has been faulty for years and either steadily got worse, or was completely useless all the time and I'd just never realised.

I have refitted a GSR and did seem to get a further improvement but to make sure I've booked an hour at a local rolling road to test as much of this as possible with what is already on the car (Supersprint manifold and rear silencer):

Standard intake + paper filter
Standard intake + performance filter (although this one is probably not going to happen as I've found that the filter is damaged and might not seal 100%)
Standard intake pipe + a chopped up GSR Induction kit in place of the air box
Full GSR Induction kit

Once that's settled with figures I plan to refit the Supersprint front/centre pipe (with sports cat) and go back to the rolling road and see what happens again.

I've had another little run out with the Swift and was pulling away from it, not a massive amount but it's a nice change. I'm going back to Cadwell next month to actually enjoy the car properly! Managed to get to Curborough the day after I fixed it and it was much better around there.

Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on July 13, 2019, 07:36:57 pm
HI John
I came across this thread when searching for stuff about HGT's. I do think these Hitachi ECU's are particularly sensitive to changes. They aren't running an airflow meter and changing intake and exhaust will be changing the MAP sensor readings and causing the ECU to add incorrect fuel & spark (the spark is possibly more the issue).

So I do think although a proper manufacturer air intake is arguably better than a bad aftermarket one I'm not sure all of the blame lies with the intake itself. It is clear though that with the variable intake runners that FIAT designed this engine to utilise resonant frequencies to boost torque.

The only sure fire way to get more power would be like you mention an aftermarket ECU (Emeralds start about £700) but then there's all the issues you'll get with check lights. There's a good thread here about a chap who built a 2 litre version - can't link but search "guy croft forum fiat punto hgt build"

I am thinking about dropping in the Alfa 2.0 TSpark but using the FIAT head and going the whole hog with throttle bodies and cams with standalone ECU.

Anyway it's great that you've been using the old girl in anger. These cars got a bad wrap from the press but really what's not to like? A cracking 1.8 Litre engine (better than all it's class rivals at the time) a brilliant 5 speed box with superb ratios. OK the suspension is a bit like riding a pogo stick but at least it focusses the mind !

Fingers crossed I'll have some proper figures to look at with the intake soon!

The guy I picked the new throttle body up from said there is one (or more, can't remember) running DTA management and the only issue is the rev counter doesn't work. Reckoned you could even do it on a fly by wire throttle body. Said there was a video on Facebook but all I can find is this on YouTube, don't think it's the one he was on about but doesn't look like the water temp is working properly either?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPgsLldkZUM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPgsLldkZUM)

At the moment I just want to enjoy what the car can do when it actually works but will see what the guy at the rolling road might be able to offer ECU-wise next week.

Pretty sure I saw the 2.0 build but I'll have to have another look!

The handling has been the best bit on mine for years (coilovers etc), now I have some performance to go with it!
Title: Re: Jonnio's Punto HGT Abarth
Post by: Jonnio on July 22, 2019, 11:56:29 am
Had it on a rolling road last Tuesday and tested different induction setups. These are all with a Supersprint manifold and rear silencer fitted, and the gauze removed from the throttle body (trying to squeeze every last pony out).

Run 1 - Standard Induction - 135bhp
Run 2 - Standard Induction with Jetex drop in filter - 136bhp
Run 3 - Standard Induction hose/chopped up GSR Induction kit hybrid with Jetex angled filter - 142bhp
Run 4 - GSR Induction kit with Jetex angled filter - 141bhp

Run 4 setup made more power lower down than the run 3 setup and then they switched over higher up the revs. The guy there recommended running the Run 4 setup for that bit extra low down.

I made the mistake of asking for the graphs to be emailed over rather than printed and still haven't had anything so need to start hassling. As far as I can remember there was a ~5 lb-ft increase with the induction kit and hybrid.

Over the weekend I had a play with some more silicone and manage to extend the GSR so that the filter was sat right behind the bumper opening. After driving it for a bit yesterday I thought it had reduced the power lower down the revs so switched back to how it was on Run 4 for the time being. The differences will be so small here that the only way to know for sure will be on the dyno.
I think I can improve the extension setup slightly (get rid of one joint) then will head back to the rolling road to try it along with the one piece front/centre/sports cat exhaust piece I have.

Another idea I've got is to make up an airbox/enclosure for the filter which should be fairly simple to do.