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Offline sac841

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IMPORTANT NOTICE

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This post has been edited after consultation with forum admin and Abarth UK in order to make sure that owners do not cause any damage to their cars.

Admin have asked me to make it clear that:

1.   I am using non OEM Abarth purchased or recommended equipment that I have sourced myself.
2.   Positive engagement MUST be made with the sill area and the slot on the Fiat OEM jack, as the actual jacking point is inboard of the arrows. This is to avoid any damage to your car.

Abarth do not recommend owners jack the car themselves so as to avoid getting it wrong as outlined above. That is why the owners manual asks you to ‘refer to dealer.’

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After spending some time being recovered at the roadside because a flint had punctured my tyre and goo wouldn't fix and go.......I started to research carrying a spare wheel in my 595.

There have been other threads but here is my personal complete solution to carrying a space saver spare wheel in your 500/595 to get you moving again. Abarth obviously (in my opinion) decided not to use the space saver option as it WILL NOT fit on the front due to the size of the brakes. So as a manufacturer you could not let people loose with a wheel that would only go on the back. Obviously discerning owners (that's why you are here yes?) can think for themselves and make sound personal decisions.

So search on eBay and locate a Fiat space saver 135/80/14 wheel/tyre and the insert with jack/wheelbrace etc. Do not search for 'Fiat 500 spare wheel' as there is a price premium on them! Just search under Fiat as the OEM jack kit for the Punto/Grande Punto does the trick. I found mine as separate items but this solution has cost me only £45. The wheel fits inside the Abarth spare wheel well perfectly after removing the polystyrene insert.

I can hear some of you saying 'but the jack doesn't work on our cars due to the skirts' - wrong, it works perfectly and almost fully collapsed it slides under just fine. Make sure you get the Fiat tool kit with the 17mm wheelbrace, some can be 19mm.  The towing eye will be too short in the Punto kit, you need to use the one supplied with your Abarth. I have tried both to check, see photo.

The jack works perfectly and if you look at the skirt you will see arrows on them front and rear where you can locate the jack. Please make sure the jack is positively located on the sill in the slot and not on the skirt.  I hear you saying 'but that jack will damage the body' - no it doesn't as it is designed to lift the car on the sill area in the strongest location and does so on many other ordinary 500's.  This kit is OEM supplied by Fiat on those cars.  There is no damage to either front or rear, I have personally tested it extensively on my 595, damage is often caused by incorrect jacking in tyre bays etc.  If you prefer you can lift on the front body mount adjacent to the sill - there was a post from the mechanic at Vospers (Chunkymonkey) a while ago with photos. This is where the 500 is attached to the production line and it carries the weight of the car during the build process.  You cannot get to the rear one due to an undershield.  If you lift here use my top jacking tip.....an ice hockey puck. They are nearly solid vulcanised rubber and make a brilliant softer jacking point, just search on Amazon or eBay and they are only few pounds. Photo below in use on the front body mount. This is the front jacking point often used in workshops and the one I use at home but with a FLAT rubber jack pad on my low entry trolley jack.

So the front tyre is flat and the space saver wheel will not fit the front, no problem, fit the space saver wheel to the rear, move the good wheel to the front.....get home! In fact as you will see in one of my pictures if you jack on the front jacking point/body mount it lifts the whole side of the car so the wheel swap is easy....and so much better than a few hours at the roadside.....waiting....!

Personally I carry Tyreweld as if you get a small nail etc. it should work well for that, anything bigger forget it! The fix and go stays in the garage as my tyre bay are happy to wash out Tyreweld but not the Fiat fix and go.

I have attached several photos of the solution including my padded pocket for the towing eye to stop it making a noise in the kit. I hope this helps someone else and saves you spending time at a grim rainy roadside when all you wanted to do was just get home those few miles!

And finally….I must point out that you do any of the above as your own personal choice.

Shaun

Now a happier 595 Competizione owner!



« Last Edit: April 07, 2015, 09:36:00 pm by PORTHOS »
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    Re: Abarth 500/595 spacesaver wheel - the complete solution ***UPDATED***
    « Reply #1 on: April 07, 2015, 09:35:11 pm »
    Thanks Shaun  :thumb:

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    Good write up :)  I looked for help online a few months ago but found little information, so I made my own kit up.  I did something similar but I used a Fiat Marea spare wheel with a 125/80/15 tyre.  I have a 5mm spacer from a Alfa 145 QV.  It fits in the wheel well, is very close in rolling radius to the original and clears the front caliper ok.  I used an Alfa 145 jack and a Ebay extendable wheel brace.  However, there are many Fiat group wheels and tooling that will do the job :)

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    Re: Abarth 500/595 spacesaver wheel - the complete solution ***UPDATED***
    « Reply #3 on: August 10, 2015, 02:53:02 pm »
    Best, thorough post ever! Bob on.

    Thanks
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    Re: Abarth 500/595 spacesaver wheel - the complete solution ***UPDATED***
    « Reply #4 on: August 10, 2015, 04:35:42 pm »
    Excellent write up! Wouldn't do this myself purely due to the added weight ;) But an excellent solution for many I imagine!
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    Re: Abarth 500/595 spacesaver wheel - the complete solution ***UPDATED***
    « Reply #5 on: August 10, 2015, 06:39:39 pm »
    Wouldn't be without mine.  :thumb:

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    Re: Abarth 500/595 spacesaver wheel - the complete solution ***UPDATED***
    « Reply #6 on: August 10, 2015, 07:18:41 pm »
    looking into doing this as hope to go touring italy soon and will need a spare without a doubt looks an excellent fix to me great writ up and very helpful pictures. :thumb:

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    Re: Abarth 500/595 spacesaver wheel - the complete solution ***UPDATED***
    « Reply #7 on: August 11, 2015, 10:57:52 am »
    After spending 2.5hrs waiting for breakdown service because I had a puncture that the 'Fix & Go' couldn't repair,  I followed the above. Got a space saver & original Fiat scissor jack from local scrap merchant (all unused) for £30. And "dah,  dahhh... ",  on the Esseesse it goes... Better than waiting for a lift and at least I can take the car to the tyre shop now.

    Arguments against a space saver are pretty lame if you consider the time and safety issues when a puncture occurs on a motorway or main A road.  Afterall,  you just want to get to where you are going.

    Ps.  Extra weight is extremely negligible and don't forget,  it's centrally biased so might actually be helpful.
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    Re: Abarth 500/595 spacesaver wheel - the complete solution ***UPDATED***
    « Reply #8 on: August 11, 2015, 11:38:47 am »
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    Arguments against a space saver are pretty lame if you consider the time and safety issues when a puncture occurs on a motorway or main A road.  After all,  you just want to get to where you are going.


    There are many motorists that would not know one end of a tyre lever from the other, never mind finding a jacking point :whistle:

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    Re: Abarth 500/595 spacesaver wheel - the complete solution ***UPDATED***
    « Reply #9 on: August 11, 2015, 11:51:22 am »
    Funny  :D

    Jacking points are indicated by arrows, so only if you are visually impaired would you miss them.

    What I can now do is get on with a journey if a puncture happens without relying on breakdown service or the really pointless Fix &  Go.  Just for info: many breakdown / recovery services have written to car manufacturers suggesting fix &  go kits are dangerous & pointless.

    Get a space saver and be self sufficient.  Simple!

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    Re: Abarth 500/595 spacesaver wheel - the complete solution ***UPDATED***
    « Reply #10 on: August 11, 2015, 12:06:00 pm »
    Just wanted to check. My car has Eibach Pro's and sits 30mm lower (20mm as Abarth is already 10mm lower than Fiat 500). Can I assume that the jack will still get the relevant clearance? Sorry if I am being thick  :whistle:

    Great post by the way!
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    Re: Abarth 500/595 spacesaver wheel - the complete solution ***UPDATED***
    « Reply #11 on: August 11, 2015, 12:48:17 pm »
    Adam, yes the jack won't have any issue's with your springs.

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    Re: Abarth 500/595 spacesaver wheel - the complete solution ***UPDATED***
    « Reply #12 on: August 11, 2015, 01:12:35 pm »
    I have the Esseesse,  which has v low springs (hard too = bumpy) and the scissor jack fully compressed gets under -  just. 

    Easy.  :thumb:
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    « Reply #13 on: August 11, 2015, 01:13:46 pm »
    Thanks Buddy  :thumb:
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    Re: Abarth 500/595 spacesaver wheel - the complete solution ***UPDATED***
    « Reply #14 on: August 11, 2015, 01:58:23 pm »
    A few images showing the Esseesse with jack and space saver.

    Remember - space saver will only fit rear due to size of front calipers. Still, would take far less time changing front with rear and then space saver on rear than waiting for breakdown service.
     
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