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Abarth Cars => Abarth 124 Spider => Topic started by: PORTHOS on June 26, 2015, 12:27:09 am

Title: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on June 26, 2015, 12:27:09 am
This is really heavily disguised.  But it's looking very retro in it's styling! Love the long bonnet.

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/fiat/90395/new-fiat-124-spider-first-spy-shots

(http://cdn2.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery_adv/public/fiat_124_spider_001.jpg)

(http://cdn1.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery_adv/public/fiat_124_spider_007.jpg)

(http://cdn2.autoexpress.co.uk/sites/autoexpressuk/files/styles/gallery_adv/public/fiat_124_spider_006.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: ScorpionOf88 on June 26, 2015, 08:49:35 am
looks like an SLS front end  :thumb:
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on June 26, 2015, 05:16:22 pm
Put me off buying one, unless the finish is improved ;D
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on July 14, 2015, 06:50:39 pm
 :getmecoat:
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on July 15, 2015, 11:46:53 am
Ha ha ha!

There I laughed, better? lol.

Actually, saw this the other day, nice render, seems to fit the disguised one's profile......
(http://www.tuningblog.eu/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/01-ABARTH-124-SPIDER-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Brian1612 on July 15, 2015, 12:05:56 pm
If it looks anything like that, minus the front as it isn't very 'Abarth' it will be a big seller I reckon.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: AdamAbarth on July 17, 2015, 08:44:35 pm
I truly hope that is way off because it look awful  :thumbd:
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Barbs83 on July 17, 2015, 10:36:05 pm
Here's my money - take it and go.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: John501 on July 18, 2015, 11:24:12 am
Here's my money - take it and go.

I'll hold you to that  :devil:
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Brian1612 on July 20, 2015, 01:35:06 pm
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/fiat/92230/extreme-abarth-124-spider-to-join-comfortable-fiat-version

I know it's Auto Express but still, nice little update on the 124, like the rear of ther artist impression drawing, think the front is horrible though!
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: AdamAbarth on July 20, 2015, 02:47:56 pm
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/fiat/92230/extreme-abarth-124-spider-to-join-comfortable-fiat-version

I know it's Auto Express but still, nice little update on the 124, like the rear of ther artist impression drawing, think the front is horrible though!

Now I prefer the front of this one. Looks similar to the look of the Ferrari California with the air scoop. The back is very nice.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on July 20, 2015, 02:53:58 pm
From what I read, the Fiat version will have the 1.4 MA engine (135 to 180bhp) and the Abarth version a detuned 4C unit of 200bhp with TCT.

Reported to make an appearance at the LA motor show this autumn or Frankfurt next spring.

Cannot wait much longer. :yawn:
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Lewis on July 20, 2015, 06:03:26 pm
I like this part...

“We went too far with the Punto Abarth – the Punto is a family car and the Abarth version was seen as a bit of a stretch. I stopped production of it 15 months ago because it was not targeted at the true Abarth customer – an Abarth has to be something special and a family car cannot offer this.”

Hope Lloyd doesn't read this!  :bat:

This does suggest that the Abarth 500X won't be on the cards otherwise that statement would be a bit hypocritical...
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: sandys on July 20, 2015, 06:52:29 pm
the 500 is a family car too ???

I like the idea of an Abarth Roadster, my MX5 is pretty good, I do wonder what it would be like with a nice turbo engine in, would it be better or worse, one of the positives of the 5 experience is the broad rev range and response from its NA engine, useful till past 7k, a lagging turbo motor running out of puff at 6k might take the edge off the roadster experience.

Time will tell, a car like this will sell on looks alone, lets hope it is better than the renders, Mazda did a cracking job, you'd expect the Italians to do it better.

Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Brian1612 on July 20, 2015, 08:35:16 pm
The 500 certainly isn't a family car in no way, shape or form... it is a city car that realistically can only seat 2 people comfortably and there is no arguing that really... the statement certainly seems to shoot down any speculation of a 500x Abarth anyway.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Barbs83 on July 21, 2015, 07:50:01 am
The 500 certainly isn't a family car in no way, shape or form... it is a city car that realistically can only seat 2 people comfortably and there is no arguing that really... the statement certainly seems to shoot down any speculation of a 500x Abarth anyway.

It's a shame as the 500X would make an awesome Abarth - great car :D
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Brian1612 on July 21, 2015, 09:28:25 am
Heard they drive pretty well, with the abarth treatment and AWD could be looking at quite the beast.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: daryl on July 22, 2015, 05:41:12 pm
not keen on the 124 & the Abarth version at all, and i don't get how they can say an Abarth has to be something "special" then pretty much dress up an mazda MX-5 when all past Abarth were genuine Fiats  :(
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on July 22, 2015, 07:02:11 pm
And Simcas'  :whistle:
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: GTMartin on July 23, 2015, 08:46:15 am
And Porsches  :whistle: ;D
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: AdamAbarth on July 23, 2015, 09:26:41 am
And Lancia and Alfa Romeo  :whistle:

(yes I know they were owned by Fiat by then)
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on July 23, 2015, 12:57:28 pm
The suspense is killing me.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: tapi0 on July 23, 2015, 04:57:29 pm
You forgot Renault. ;D
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: AdamAbarth on July 23, 2015, 05:11:36 pm
NO we just wanted to give you a chance to have a go  ;)
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: AdamAbarth on September 03, 2015, 06:34:58 pm
According to the latest Autocar the 124 Abarth will look different to the standard Fiat 124 and may gain a 4C derived engine.

If this has been posted elsewhere apologies:

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/fiat-124-spider-and-abarth-be-distinct-versions?utm_medium=EMAIL&utm_campaign=Enews%20bulletins&utm_content=link2_2&utm_source=20150903
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: flutes on September 04, 2015, 05:47:04 am
I can't believe there hasn't been one spy shot from the dealers conference last week!!
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on September 24, 2015, 05:40:47 pm
Been spotted again at higher altitudes.....

http://www.tflcar.com/2015/09/all-new-fiat-124-spider-caught-testing-at-high-altitude-spied/

(http://www.tflcar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/2017-fiat-124-roadster-front-driving.jpg)

(http://www.tflcar.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/2017-fiat-124-roadster-rear.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on September 27, 2015, 01:15:36 pm
And again, with the roof down:

http://www.autoblog.com/2015/09/26/fiat-124-spied-convertible-top-down/#slide-3638289
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: mlove52 on October 17, 2015, 09:10:57 pm
I just hope that they have sorted the sill problem out.

I had several MX5s before switching to Fiat and Abarth. Each one had sill problems, one with the sills starting to rot when only 4 years old, but as Mazda judged it not to be from the inside out they refused to cover it within the  warranty. And this is that despite a rigorous attention to detail in keeping the drainage holes clear etc.

Don't get me wrong, I loved the MX5s, balance, handling and ride quality are superb, but I got totally fed up with the additional cost of rust damage to sills.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: AdamAbarth on October 17, 2015, 11:02:53 pm
You'd like to think so seeing as this is a new model but who knows.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Brian1612 on November 05, 2015, 12:16:57 pm
(http://i1028.photobucket.com/albums/y342/brianwoods21/12191443_1022625507759593_5843332166771829600_n_zpsg1d3tnhl.jpg) (http://s1028.photobucket.com/user/brianwoods21/media/12191443_1022625507759593_5843332166771829600_n_zpsg1d3tnhl.jpg.html)

Fiat version looks good, excited for the Abarth now. 17th of Nov for the official reveal! :)
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: benn on November 05, 2015, 12:32:35 pm
That looks superb!
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on November 05, 2015, 01:01:33 pm
Another nice photoshop, but again not the actual car.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on November 05, 2015, 01:08:05 pm
http://blog.caranddriver.com/2017-fiat-124-spider-caught-undisguised-it-looks-very-miata-like/

This is the closest thing I found to the spy photos (cars need side indicators!):

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aS8fmLqoaGE/VjtUb385rjI/AAAAAAAAQ3c/HnC7vD5du8E/s1200-Ic42/SCARICA-IL-PDF-DELLA-COPERTINA-DI-AUTO-12-IN-EDICOLA.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Brian1612 on November 05, 2015, 01:22:01 pm
This is from an official Fiat release apparently Porthos. Was released through facebook on the Italian Fiat page as part of a brochure for the 124... might find this is a very close representation of what we can expect ;) (Hopefully!)
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on November 05, 2015, 01:29:08 pm
I think it's far too early for any actual Brochures, plus that has no side indicators, the real one is pictured here:

http://blog.caranddriver.com/2017-fiat-124-spider-caught-undisguised-it-looks-very-miata-like/

Exhausts are lower, bumper doesn't cut so low in the real one, side indicators on wings etc etc.

It is close though, but I work with Photoshop and I'm telling you if thats from a brochure then I'll eat my hat because the reflection of those wheels is, TERRIBLE, ha ha. Rear wheel reflection has no tread apparently..... And Brembos!? On the Fiat version!?
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Brian1612 on November 05, 2015, 02:02:44 pm
Just have to wait and see I guess. I don't expect the wheels to be those either but hey ho! Internet is rife with rumours at the moment! Exciting times for Fiat/Abarth fans! :)
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on November 05, 2015, 02:32:19 pm
Just have to wait and see I guess. I don't expect the wheels to be those either but hey ho! Internet is rife with rumours at the moment! Exciting times for Fiat/Abarth fans! :)

Ha ha, it's good isn't it, cant wait to see the Abarth version :) :thumb:
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on November 05, 2015, 05:46:31 pm
I love that on the cover!!! Cant bloody wait.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on November 09, 2015, 11:53:48 am
Here you go Brian, made an animated gif using the 'official fiat' pic and an autoexpress mockup, shows you they are the same picture both manipulated in photoshop to appear different. Notice the interior matches perfectly and a few other bits like the tyres being in the exact same location and floor markings/shadows under the car etc.

I do this sort of thing every day for a living so trust me when I tell you something is photoshop :)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PGvoDQrf3q0/VkCIIaQdcBI/AAAAAAAAQ3w/YnwXrARMKG8/s620-Ic42/gif.gif)

In fact here is my own photoshop I made a while ago now....
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VwPl-xQVfog/VMzmz3G2cQI/AAAAAAAAQGc/MiDA7pHAWTU/s800-Ic42/2016-Abarth-quarter2.jpg)

For anyone interested or who hasn't seen these all over the internet yet, these are the official Fiat pics so far........

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WQizd5Eg3O0/VkCLdQQu_TI/AAAAAAAAQ4M/O84GbeWPyxM/s800-Ic42/fiat124-london-1.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WTs_34PW_0k/VkCLdKUaDnI/AAAAAAAAQ4E/587WEMhhWuA/s800-Ic42/fiat124-madrid-1.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4svcrFOjVC0/VkCLdSqTzOI/AAAAAAAAQ4I/q6j2EG1i8VQ/s800-Ic42/fiat124-rome-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Brian1612 on November 09, 2015, 12:09:34 pm
Can't argue with that Porthos! I think that photoshop won't be far off from the real thing though looking at the spied model.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on November 09, 2015, 12:19:08 pm
Can't argue with that Porthos! I think that photoshop won't be far off from the real thing though looking at the spied model.

Definitely not far off  8) I am counting down the days, ha ha!
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: sandys on November 09, 2015, 01:50:39 pm
And Brembos!? On the Fiat version!?

Why not the new MX5 comes with them, why would they down grade.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on November 09, 2015, 10:53:53 pm
Here you go Brian, made an animated gif using the 'official fiat' pic and an autoexpress mockup, shows you they are the same picture both manipulated in photoshop to appear different. Notice the interior matches perfectly and a few other bits like the tyres being in the exact same location and floor markings/shadows under the car etc.

I do this sort of thing every day for a living so trust me when I tell you something is photoshop :)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-PGvoDQrf3q0/VkCIIaQdcBI/AAAAAAAAQ3w/YnwXrARMKG8/s620-Ic42/gif.gif)

In fact here is my own photoshop I made a while ago now....
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VwPl-xQVfog/VMzmz3G2cQI/AAAAAAAAQGc/MiDA7pHAWTU/s800-Ic42/2016-Abarth-quarter2.jpg)

For anyone interested or who hasn't seen these all over the internet yet, these are the official Fiat pics so far........

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WQizd5Eg3O0/VkCLdQQu_TI/AAAAAAAAQ4M/O84GbeWPyxM/s800-Ic42/fiat124-london-1.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-WTs_34PW_0k/VkCLdKUaDnI/AAAAAAAAQ4E/587WEMhhWuA/s800-Ic42/fiat124-madrid-1.jpg)

porthos that's bloody clever what you did there :)


(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-4svcrFOjVC0/VkCLdSqTzOI/AAAAAAAAQ4I/q6j2EG1i8VQ/s800-Ic42/fiat124-rome-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on November 09, 2015, 11:00:12 pm
I think the orange one of the cover will be close o the real thing because if you compare it to these spy shots
the similaritys on the front are very close ,lights and front grill,wheels,fake chrome windscreen surround and same indicators.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/2017-fiat-124-spider-caught-undisguised-it-looks-very-miata-like/

Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on November 10, 2015, 10:52:38 am
I think the orange one of the cover will be close o the real thing because if you compare it to these spy shots
the similaritys on the front are very close ,lights and front grill,wheels,fake chrome windscreen surround and same indicators.

http://blog.caranddriver.com/2017-fiat-124-spider-caught-undisguised-it-looks-very-miata-like/

Yes they have thought very hard about that one and paid attention to the spy photos  :thumb:
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on November 10, 2015, 10:01:19 pm
well if it is anything like that......ooooooooh the 500 needs a bigger brother!
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on November 17, 2015, 01:30:10 pm
Will we see the public release of the 124 tomorrow at the LA motor show? :whistle:
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on November 17, 2015, 02:37:57 pm
Yep :D

The Abarth 124 has been spied sporting quad pipes and Brembos....  no point posting though as I have a feeling we might even see both the Fiat and Abarth versions announced tomorrow.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on November 17, 2015, 04:08:06 pm
Oh god, random find, but it's in my favourite colour :D

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jT-kA3kluOk/VktQsQfVWdI/AAAAAAAAQ5A/TjSeUKmEopU/w992-h744-no/0_1_2015111709424066823.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on November 17, 2015, 05:57:55 pm
neat looking back. so far looks like the black one that was spied.

its now all about the front!
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on November 17, 2015, 05:59:07 pm
why is it half displayed already though? thought they would unveil all of it tomorrow?
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on November 17, 2015, 06:19:46 pm
why is it half displayed already though? thought they would unveil all of it tomorrow?

Spy shot of them setting up the stand I am assuming  :thumb:
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: AdamAbarth on November 17, 2015, 06:29:21 pm
They are really making a thing of these body coloured panels in rear light clusters...
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on November 17, 2015, 07:05:51 pm
good spot adam.i didn't clock that. untl you mentioned that I love the back of it...now I have to see those rear lights in real life.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: AusAbarth on November 18, 2015, 06:06:44 am
Official photos

http://www.motormag.com.au/news/1511/la-auto-show-fiat-124-spider/

 :-\
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on November 18, 2015, 09:39:54 am
I love it :) It's a lot more 'butch' than the MX5, pleased they interior is basically the same, it's actually a REALLY nice place to be. Let's not forget, this is the Fiat version, the Abarth should be a lot more aggressive in styling.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b_Itzy-NlCY/VkxG18vD1qI/AAAAAAAAQ5o/AGDYTu1dCrk/s1020-Ic42/FT017_026SP4kmer018819du90aohgi18tg0.0.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mEkPfjvYFIk/VkxGywZwk7I/AAAAAAAAQ5Q/eIma6TCKB7s/s1020-Ic42/FT017_018SPflpf95evtt778ikpkt6dhmtef6.0.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-caFFV3_L3wk/VkxGzl851DI/AAAAAAAAQ5c/4gDppl3mpO4/s1020-Ic42/FT017_022SPst0t8l5athi07b7nttqg8rcjsp.0.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RHsqQhQeucw/VkxGzhIsPTI/AAAAAAAAQ5g/dC5h3kUA6GE/s1020-Ic42/FT017_016SPcl6fhek6bpsbhepue38k5iv1dn.0.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iqvfYJfUl5E/VkxHkXDJv-I/AAAAAAAAQ5w/obbXW1Ndkn4/s912-Ic42/FT017_031SPkfit83mc22lbjognhqhanml9f6.0.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: AdamAbarth on November 18, 2015, 10:23:17 am
Not for me I'm afraid. The back looks more like the rear of the old MX5 and the rear fog light looks like an afterthought. I was never in the market for one but I was hoping for something that really stood out more. The front LED's look cheap, would have looked so much better as one fluid tube rather than broken sections like on the new 500.

It's all subjective but I hope the Abarth version makes enough changes to make me feel differently.

Here it is in blue.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: flutes on November 18, 2015, 12:04:21 pm
I really love the tail, not so sure about the nose yet. Will have to see one in person. If the Abarth version does have the 4C engine I'm interested...
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on November 18, 2015, 12:09:59 pm
From certain angles it looks great.like a little maseratti! from certain angles im not sure.The side I think they could of done more with.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on November 18, 2015, 12:11:28 pm
I love it :) It's a lot more 'butch' than the MX5, pleased they interior is basically the same, it's actually a REALLY nice place to be. Let's not forget, this is the Fiat version, the Abarth should be a lot more aggressive in styling.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-b_Itzy-NlCY/VkxG18vD1qI/AAAAAAAAQ5o/AGDYTu1dCrk/s1020-Ic42/FT017_026SP4kmer018819du90aohgi18tg0.0.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-mEkPfjvYFIk/VkxGywZwk7I/AAAAAAAAQ5Q/eIma6TCKB7s/s1020-Ic42/FT017_018SPflpf95evtt778ikpkt6dhmtef6.0.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-caFFV3_L3wk/VkxGzl851DI/AAAAAAAAQ5c/4gDppl3mpO4/s1020-Ic42/FT017_022SPst0t8l5athi07b7nttqg8rcjsp.0.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-RHsqQhQeucw/VkxGzhIsPTI/AAAAAAAAQ5g/dC5h3kUA6GE/s1020-Ic42/FT017_016SPcl6fhek6bpsbhepue38k5iv1dn.0.jpg)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-iqvfYJfUl5E/VkxHkXDJv-I/AAAAAAAAQ5w/obbXW1Ndkn4/s912-Ic42/FT017_031SPkfit83mc22lbjognhqhanml9f6.0.jpg)

I love it in all those pictures! the back lights, the bulges on the bonnet, the front grill all look great.

but on the blue one I aint keen on ..side looks plain.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on November 18, 2015, 12:18:08 pm
I love it in all those pictures! the back lights, the bulges on the bonnet, the front grill all look great.

but on the blue one I aint keen on ..side looks plain.

I am the same, the studio shots look a little 'bland'. Certain colours suit different cars, I'm not sure the blue there suits it but I believe that is for a limited launch edition, looks mighty similar to the fiat 500 in this colour:

(http://www.fiatpress.co.uk/actionphp/thumb.output.php?src=UK%2F2014%2FFIAT%2FIMAGES%2FMODELS%2F500_MY14%2FF_9305.jpg&wmax=620&hmax=620&quality=80&bgcol=FFFFFF&type=2)
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on November 18, 2015, 12:43:22 pm
yea I think the blue makes the back quarter panel look too high/plain?

the tan seats on blue look great but on the picture blue doesnt work.

I say good job fiat...maby could of doe abit more to the side..it doesn't seem to be a sport variant buti guess theyl leave that to later on just leave the sport side of things to abarth.

cant wait to see this in the flesh and if the fiat version looks like this then bring on the abarth :D
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Sean94 on November 18, 2015, 01:09:53 pm
Can't say I'd have this over the MX-5 looks wise, to me it looks exceptionally ugly, an abarth version would be different though.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on November 18, 2015, 01:13:10 pm
I can see where the styling comes from, definitely DODGE.....  My example here, ha ha....
I'm a Dodge Viper Fan Boy so it's nice to see a much more masculine looking car in the 124, but still love the MX-5.

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-eIus1J9YsBI/Vkx48SNAO3I/AAAAAAAAQ6A/XWdq30vxt_c/s800-Ic42/MX%25252BDODGE.jpg)
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: flutes on November 18, 2015, 03:56:48 pm
I love it in white, looks much better!
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Brian1612 on November 18, 2015, 04:42:57 pm
Also looks great in Black.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on November 18, 2015, 04:52:03 pm
looks bad ass in black. :) white yes also looks classy.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Salvos_White_Abarth on November 18, 2015, 06:31:23 pm
just watched the unveil..i love it!
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on November 18, 2015, 06:48:19 pm
The white does look fantastic in this formal shot :)

And this is the FIAT version, the Abarth one I hope will look completely INSANE :)

(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-0nvyAAH4xTM/VkzHnir7_JI/AAAAAAAAQ6Q/ptq_la2gOW8/w599-h337-no/CUHVJc3UEAAai6R.jpg)

Longer nose, more aggressive bumper and kit in general....... should be a great looking car, it's a great start for what is basically a standard Fiat.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on November 19, 2015, 10:24:44 am
More problems :whistle:

124 Anniversary launch model?

Factory order?

Wait for the Abarth version?

Used Alfa Spider V6???
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: flutes on November 19, 2015, 10:42:52 am
Definitely wait for the Abarth version for me...

My question is - why the hell does the EU spec only get 140hp?? Even though it is using the Multiair as well.

I really don't understand. That likely means that we'll get the 140hp spec in AU as well.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Bristol_Rich on November 19, 2015, 11:17:33 am
Definitely wait for the Abarth version for me...

My question is - why the hell does the EU spec only get 140hp?? Even though it is using the Multiair as well.

I really don't understand. That likely means that we'll get the 140hp spec in AU as well.

Because if it had 200bhp then the "Abarth engineers" will need to extract even more to make it a competitive product thus creating significant cost, reliability, engine choice and type approval issues and more than likely price its self out of what is already a reasonably neiche market...

Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: flutes on November 19, 2015, 11:40:37 am
Definitely wait for the Abarth version for me...

My question is - why the hell does the EU spec only get 140hp?? Even though it is using the Multiair as well.

I really don't understand. That likely means that we'll get the 140hp spec in AU as well.

Because if it had 200bhp then the "Abarth engineers" will need to extract even more to make it a competitive product thus creating significant cost, reliability, engine choice and type approval issues and more than likely price its self out of what is already a reasonably neiche market...
I'm talking about the differences between the US spec and EU spec 124 - the US gets 160hp, EU gets 140hp?? But they're both Multiair engines. Very weird.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on November 19, 2015, 11:46:51 am
I'm talking about the differences between the US spec and EU spec 124 - the US gets 160hp, EU gets 140hp?? But they're both Multiair engines. Very weird.

I am sure it is to do with bigger longer roads, Europe in comparison is filled with twisty short roads.
We concentrate more on handling, they tend to concentrate more on straight line power.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Brian1612 on November 19, 2015, 12:05:35 pm
Have to agree it's a bit strange. Same story initially with the 500 as well though if you remember back. There standard A500 came with 160 bhp, ours only came with 135-140 bhp and you had to go Turismo/Competizione spec for the same power. Looks like the 124 spider will be the same, possibly have 2 choices of engine spec over here though maybe, although I doubt it. The 140 bhp here is to make the Abarth variant with 170 bhp look more performance based I think.

A jump of 30 bhp looks a lot better than a jump of 10...
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: 124Abarthreplica on November 19, 2015, 02:55:29 pm
Although the Evo MA Supersport tops at 180 so I suspect the Abarth 124 MA will start at that figure.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: Brian1612 on November 19, 2015, 04:17:17 pm
I don't think they will throw out the full power they can achieve right away. Likely be a sort of esseesse style kit etc/ Here is hoping 200bhp is he sort of power to aspire too.
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: PORTHOS on November 19, 2015, 05:40:08 pm
According to Pistonhead's 'source' The Abarth 124 will be entering a new category in the WRC and releasing versions of 160, 190 and 200+ BHP

http://www.pistonheads.com/news/ph-eurocars/abarth-to-take-124-spider-rallying/33329

Pinch of salt and all that!
Title: Re: Fiat 124 spied testing...
Post by: tapi0 on November 20, 2015, 05:21:11 pm
Have to agree it's a bit strange. Same story initially with the 500 as well though if you remember back. There standard A500 came with 160 bhp, ours only came with 135-140 bhp and you had to go Turismo/Competizione spec for the same power.
Actually normal Euro Abarth is Fiat 500 Sport in US.
And they have Multiair.