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Tuning & Modifications => Abarth Grande Punto => Topic started by: chimino on November 21, 2009, 02:51:45 am

Title: GPA and CDA BMC
Post by: chimino on November 21, 2009, 02:51:45 am
Hi,

i saw a video in youtube of GPA esseesse, i think the video was in Frankfurt car saloon, and that GPA esseesse had a BMC CDA...here in my country the GPA esseesse comes with a "normal" BMC air filter, so i would like to know if they come with CDA BMC in the UK or if it only happens in Italy or so...
Title: Re: GPA and CDA BMC
Post by: Gofra on November 21, 2009, 12:34:32 pm
Trust me, you don't need it...

the point of CDA is in keeping the sucked-up air relatively cold. Colder air = more dense. More dense = more xplosive mixture. Turbo on our cars does the same (well, better) trick = it compresses the air so it's more dense. Theoretically adding a CDA would help improve that even better, but since the air travels trough heated up charger after it's been taken form outside, I really see no sense. Two turbo specialists I talked to have confirmed my amateurish "discoveries" :)

Take a peek under some highly tuned exotics with turbo chargers - in majority of cases you will not see the CAI kits...

F
Title: Re: GPA and CDA BMC
Post by: chimino on December 01, 2009, 10:51:48 pm
got mine fitted and the difference it's noticeable...
Title: Re: GPA and CDA BMC
Post by: Gofra on December 02, 2009, 11:35:16 am
Well, glad for you - can you tell me where and how do you feel the difference?

LpF
Title: Re: GPA and CDA BMC
Post by: chimino on December 02, 2009, 07:41:57 pm
Well, glad for you - can you tell me where and how do you feel the difference?

LpF

he's stronger (more torque prolly) at low rpm, and stronger too at higher rpm. Seems to have less turbo lag too, and he got a lot quicker.
Title: Re: GPA and CDA BMC
Post by: aphilpot on December 07, 2009, 09:37:07 pm
got mine fitted and the difference it's noticeable...

How much did you pay for your CDA BMC and where's the best place to buy one?
Title: Re: GPA and CDA BMC
Post by: chimino on December 08, 2009, 01:15:11 am
got mine fitted and the difference it's noticeable...

How much did you pay for your CDA BMC and where's the best place to buy one?

got mine at Scorpion Tuning (Gtech) ebay store... was cheapier than here in my country (besides i could only find CDA's for Seat Ibiza's and stuff...)...
Title: Re: GPA and CDA BMC
Post by: aphilpot on December 08, 2009, 09:46:39 pm
got mine fitted and the difference it's noticeable...

How much did you pay for your CDA BMC and where's the best place to buy one?

got mine at Scorpion Tuning (Gtech) ebay store... was cheapier than here in my country (besides i could only find CDA's for Seat Ibiza's and stuff...)...

Have search all over ebay and can't find it anywhere, any chance u can send me a link to the page please  :thumb:

Title: Re: GPA and CDA BMC
Post by: DevilAndGod on December 08, 2009, 09:55:59 pm
Have search all over ebay and can't find it anywhere, any chance u can send me a link to the page please  :thumb:

Here (http://www.translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.it%2FCDA-BMC-per-Grande-Punto-Abarth_W0QQitemZ110456074323QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRicambi_automobili%3Fhash%3Ditem19b7b1f053&sl=it&tl=en) you go.
Title: Re: GPA and CDA BMC
Post by: aphilpot on December 08, 2009, 10:02:03 pm
Have search all over ebay and can't find it anywhere, any chance u can send me a link to the page please  :thumb:

Here (http://www.translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.it%2FCDA-BMC-per-Grande-Punto-Abarth_W0QQitemZ110456074323QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRicambi_automobili%3Fhash%3Ditem19b7b1f053&sl=it&tl=en) you go.

Cheers  :thumb: coz I was looking on ebay.co.uk is this item difficult to fit and roughly how much BHP etc will it improve by?
Title: Re: GPA and CDA BMC
Post by: DevilAndGod on December 08, 2009, 10:11:05 pm
Cheers  :thumb: coz I was looking on ebay.co.uk is this item difficult to fit and roughly how much BHP etc will it improve by?

Yeh, it's a pain in the ass to find. Even more so when your trying to order something with everything Italian. Never again now i've discovered google translate  :pray:

I don't have one myself. Chimino is the man in the know on this.
Title: Re: GPA and CDA BMC
Post by: Hawk on December 08, 2009, 10:19:03 pm
Have search all over ebay and can't find it anywhere, any chance u can send me a link to the page please  :thumb:

Here (http://www.translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.it%2FCDA-BMC-per-Grande-Punto-Abarth_W0QQitemZ110456074323QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRicambi_automobili%3Fhash%3Ditem19b7b1f053&sl=it&tl=en) you go.

Cheers  :thumb: coz I was looking on ebay.co.uk is this item difficult to fit and roughly how much BHP etc will it improve by?

Remember..... I'm pretty sure it will only fit LHD cars unless you fancy doing some fabrication to make it fit.  Trouble is RHD cars get the brake reservoir where the CDA filter should go.

You could always remove the brake stuff if you want but I prefer being able to stop rather than a loud noise  :whistle:
Title: Re: GPA and CDA BMC
Post by: aphilpot on December 10, 2009, 12:27:07 pm
Have search all over ebay and can't find it anywhere, any chance u can send me a link to the page please  :thumb:

Here (http://www.translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.it%2FCDA-BMC-per-Grande-Punto-Abarth_W0QQitemZ110456074323QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRicambi_automobili%3Fhash%3Ditem19b7b1f053&sl=it&tl=en) you go.

Cheers  :thumb: coz I was looking on ebay.co.uk is this item difficult to fit and roughly how much BHP etc will it improve by?

Remember..... I'm pretty sure it will only fit LHD cars unless you fancy doing some fabrication to make it fit.  Trouble is RHD cars get the brake reservoir where the CDA filter should go.

You could always remove the brake stuff if you want but I prefer being able to stop rather than a loud noise  :whistle:

Ah thats a bit of a pain in the arse, yeh it says on the ebay item that it is for LHD cars.
I do prefer to be able to stop but unfortunately that makes a loud noise too as in loud squeek lol  :whistle:
Title: Re: GPA and CDA BMC
Post by: chimino on December 11, 2009, 12:38:16 am
Have search all over ebay and can't find it anywhere, any chance u can send me a link to the page please  :thumb:

Here (http://www.translate.google.com/translate?js=y&prev=_t&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&layout=1&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fcgi.ebay.it%2FCDA-BMC-per-Grande-Punto-Abarth_W0QQitemZ110456074323QQcmdZViewItemQQptZRicambi_automobili%3Fhash%3Ditem19b7b1f053&sl=it&tl=en) you go.

Cheers  :thumb: coz I was looking on ebay.co.uk is this item difficult to fit and roughly how much BHP etc will it improve by?

no idea... didn't go to the dyno after the CDA...but i think that the increase in torque is more noticeable than the increase in hp.

there's a nice trick in ebay...go to that page, and then change to the ebay.co.uk page :P
Title: Re: GPA and CDA BMC
Post by: DevilAndGod on December 11, 2009, 04:04:07 pm
there's a nice trick in ebay...go to that page, and then change to the ebay.co.uk page :P

Just tried that and it didn't work. Turns it in to £'s but most of it is still in Italian :thumbd: Back to google translate for me.