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Abarth Cars => Abarth Grande Punto => Topic started by: AlexK on October 27, 2009, 10:49:51 am

Title: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: AlexK on October 27, 2009, 10:49:51 am
Hardly a life-threatening issue, but does anyone else's GPA make a chattering/squeaking noise when idling from cold?

It's like a squeak from a pulley bearing, and normally disappears when you blip the throttle.  Can't hear it from inside that much.

Had it on older cars before caused by dry belts, but it's a bit embarrassing on a fairly new car when sitting in traffic.

Anyone else?
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: lloyd on October 27, 2009, 01:38:31 pm
yep, i,ve got this, i,d describe it as a chirruppy sort of squeek, comes on  at start up and disappears after 2 minutes at the most.

can.t demonstrate it to the garage without leaving car over night so haven,t bothered mentioning it to them
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: AlexK on October 30, 2009, 12:10:04 pm
Yup, that sounds like it.

Cheers, fella.
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: DraigFlag on October 30, 2009, 06:50:26 pm
An old car of mine used to do that, do you what i used to do to fix it? (prepare yourself for a laugh) I used to open the bonnet and whilst the engine was running, spray a fine mist of WD-40 towards the fan belt as it went round. After a few gentle sprays, the squeak would stop. But i don't think it's a good idea as it could cause the belt to slip.
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: libebcnof23 on October 30, 2009, 07:17:55 pm
It might do but as I pull away I wouldn't be able to hear it over all the rattles and squeeks from the interior trim  :whistle:
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: richardmajor86 on October 31, 2009, 01:54:16 pm
It might do but as I pull away I wouldn't be able to hear it over all the rattles and squeeks from the interior trim  :whistle:

What i do to couteract this issue, is have the radio on, almost always.  I really cant be bothered to drive the 120 mile round trip to see a man, who tells me there isn't a lot he can do about a rattle in my dash which i cant really pin point. I cant see the abarth tech is going to want to dismantle my whole dash in a hope of finding something vibrating slightly.
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: A84RTH on October 31, 2009, 02:51:05 pm
ive taken mine back for every little rattle only rattle got now is the back seat on drivers side wont clip in place properly so it going back on monday. not had the noise you people have yet.
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: Hozepipe on October 31, 2009, 03:04:19 pm
Sounds a little like my loose spark plug problem (I thought it was a pulley or similar) but the whistle started/continued when the throttle was blipped and the engine was warm - so maybe not. Worth checking that they are OK though.

Delany's car launched a loose plug into the engine bay at 1.8 bar. :'(
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: cb500t on November 02, 2009, 01:58:44 pm
Delany's car launched a loose plug into the engine bay at 1.8 bar. :'(

Wouldn't that be 1.8 bar plus compression figure?  :o
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: matthew9712 on February 01, 2010, 12:39:03 am
There is now a modification out for this problem, it consists of a new belt being fitted and a water drain to deflect water from filling your alternator and freezing. Might be in for a wait to have it solved as many dealers will be requesting belts and modification kits.
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: DraigFlag on February 01, 2010, 05:50:29 pm
The MiTo i have at the mo with the same 155 HP engine and 6 speed box as the GPA also has an embarrassing chattering squeak too, doesn't seem to go either but can only hear it at low revs at low speed. It also has the screechy brakes too, but I'm not bothered because it's not mine!  :D (possible topic merge? As i double posted in both  :whistle:)
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: duncs04 on February 11, 2010, 12:05:34 pm
Took this video this morning, after a 30 minute drive to work.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8iRoYk_rA4

I think that its the belt which is making the noise.

Tom
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: duncs04 on February 11, 2010, 05:12:15 pm
is this what other people are having problems with?
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: AlexK on February 11, 2010, 05:47:45 pm
That's exactly it.  It's not the timing belt, it's just the auxiliary drive belt, and matthew9712 reports there seems to be a fix for it.

I've merged this with an earlier thread since we seem to have a few on the go about this topic now.
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: Lewis on February 11, 2010, 06:35:04 pm
I have noticed that on mine too....
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: lloyd on February 11, 2010, 06:42:53 pm
mine had been doing this but not heard it for a couple of weeks now
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: duncs04 on February 11, 2010, 08:59:07 pm
i created the video so that i could email it to my dealer instead of driving the 120 mile round trip, because when i got there last time it stopped doing it as it had been driven for 60 miles! sods law! lol

After speaking to the service dept earlier, they told me about the alternator freezing due to the water from the scuttle tray dripping onto it, which is causing the belt to skip and not grip. And that there is a mod for it, as mentioned in this thread.

Unfortunatly they havnt seen it yet, as they couldnt receive the video file because i was too big (over 10mb), so i had a smart idea and decided to post it on youtube, but guess what? they cant access it from work! lol So its taken me all day to find somthing to compress it to below 10mb! eventually did it and emailed them it, will call them tommorow to see if they have had a look at it.

I have to admit, its a pretty annoying noise, especially when you are driving around at low speeds in car parks and everyone looks at you! haha

I really dont want to take the car in though, because i really dont want to be driving a 1.2 punto around, especially with how far away the place is! wouldnt mind a like for like curtesy car!
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: duncs04 on February 17, 2010, 08:47:02 am
I have been thinking about this for a few days, after being told that it is probably the alternator freezing up, i decided to park my car in the garage over the last week just to see if it made a difference. My garage has a heater in it, and is heated at a constant 7-8°C, (it never drops below 6°C). But it has made no difference to the noise that is being made from my car at all, if anything my car has got worse. So as a result of this I cant see how it could be the alternator freezing. I got to work this morning and the car sounded like my 1972 beetle, with the noise comming from the belt.

Has anyone else heard anything different or had this problem fixed by abarth?

My car is booked into the dealer on the 1st april for this problem, but im not holding out much hope as I asked them to look at this when my car went in for abs failure and they said it was fine.

Tom
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: Brembo on February 17, 2010, 10:43:00 am
Ive noticed this too will get one of the techs to check belt tension
Title: Re: Chattering/squeaking when idling from cold
Post by: AGP1 on February 21, 2010, 10:14:00 am
Ive still got this on mine despite the dealer sayings its been checked and is ok