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The Abarthisti Garage / Re: My project begins...
« Last post by mj2k on January 20, 2022, 01:36:14 am »
A few more mods...

I wired in the boost gauge properly, the only sensible place to add it without drilling the manifold was using a t piece on the vacuum line to the fuel pressure regulator, but I'm going to have to keep a careful eye on that since any vacuum leaks there could be disastrous:

Also, in a quest to make more headroom for my rather tall other half, I ended up fitting Sparco R100s complete with a black leather interior:

And swapped to a round 500 Sport steering wheel since it suited the car's interior better, and I prefer a round steering wheel anyway:

Also swapped to a Comp gear knob (feels much more comfortable for fast changes) and a different stereo, to match the rest of the all-black interior.

Sparcos complete with seat frame didn't save a huge amount of weight (about 5kg vs the Sabelts), reaching the seatbelts is a pain and getting into the rear seats is a pain too since the seats don't slide when they tilt, but the interior mods do seem to have made a difference to the handling, at least for me...

The round steering wheel allows me to slip the wheel and use the torque steer to my advantage besides feeling more comfortable. And I feel much more confident in the corners, though whether that's down to the placebo effect of the lowered, harder seating combined with the better support in corners or whether the small drop in weight over the front wheels combined with the lower seating position actually moved the centre of gravity to a more desirable position is anybody's guess.

Either way I can now take the near-constant tight corners in my favorite stretch of road fast enough to make myself feel slightly queasy, though whether that's a good thing or not is open to interpretation :D

Abarth 500 / Re: 2021 595 Esseesse upgrades
« Last post by mj2k on January 20, 2022, 01:04:08 am »
My favourite as an all round tyre is Michelin Pilot Sport, our  Abarths have been good on them.
I find the standard brakes adequate for normal road use, just buy a reputable brand.
Steering wheel can be retrimmed, have a Google for someone local to you.
Remap, i will leave others to chip in or do a search on this forum, plenty of posts to read through.

1) Plus one for the PS4s, they suit the car very nicely indeed :)
2) I reckon the rear pads could do with going up a small amount in braking force since the default brakes are heavily front-biased, but not if you've removed the rear seats or made the rear end even lighter, since the car's pretty nose-heavy even without removing more weight from the rear axle. A slight increase with something like EBC Green Stuff pads might be worth a try, but see how it feels; they're not expensive anyway so you can afford to bin them if they're not to your taste. Don't bother swapping discs until they've worn out - drilling / grooving is mostly cosmetic on a road car.
3) No idea but standard 500 wheels fit too of course, and it might be easier to find someone who will retrim a standard round 500 wheel.
4) I find my 160bhp had more power than grip on the twisty, narrow roads around where I live as it is, so definitely no idea, I concentrated on the handling instead :D

Abarth 500 / Re: Advice on mods
« Last post by mj2k on January 20, 2022, 12:51:04 am »
Guess I might as well chime in late too :)

I'd say avoid the Bomardone - they're not road legal and there's rumors the police are installing noise pollution measuring devices in various places (they already catch the boy racers with v loud exhausts on Southend seafront) so besides potentially earning an MOT fail it might earn you a fine too and a command to replace it, if you're unlucky.

Go for a Record Monza instead - they're OEM so you can't get into trouble for them and make a v pleasant noise  :thumb:

Decats are a bit of an interesting one - the govt is planning to tighten up the rules around decats even further, though since it's so hidden on the Abarth it's unlikely to earn an MOT fail unless the car fails on emissions / noise. So prob a nice sports cat / decat would be fine, but stash the original cat somewhere safe in case you need to refit it.

Induction kits - no idea, but I'd have expected a cold air intake would be quite a good idea since by default the car can draw in warm air from under the bonnet, which must decrease intercooler efficiency.
Introduce Yourselves! / Re: New member - guidance needed
« Last post by mj2k on January 20, 2022, 12:40:12 am »
Hi and welcome :)

If you're planning to go down the modded route anyway, I'd say don't bother too much about the model, unless you're planning to stick to the standard Garrett turbo, in which case make sure you get one with the correct turbo since changing afterwards is an expensive faff.

Other than that, most bits and bobs are bolt-on, available relatively cheaply 2nd hand (except Sabelt seats, which are prohibitively expensive) and easy to swap over. My Turismo has pretty much turned into a 160bhp esseesse over the past few months for under £1000, albeit I went for 2nd hand Sparco R100s in place of Sabelts. So I'd say make sure you get the Garrett (assuming you're not going bigger), Sabelts (if you like them) and worry more about mileage, general condition and service history than looking for any particular model if modding is your aim.

Oh, the only other caveat is whether you want the cuter-looking pre-facelift or more aggressive facelift, since converting one into the other appears to be much more work than you'd expect.
Abarth 500 / Re: Advice on mods
« Last post by Matt_dab on January 19, 2022, 11:02:57 am »

As nobody else has replied i will chime in with some of my experience.
Getting a sports cat will instantly make the car noticeably louder, but will help performance a good deal.

Forge induction kit i have seen and heard, although its not for me, far too "modified" sounding for me and i would be irritated by the cabin noise but each their own!

Bombardone i have had one on in the past (albeit with a decat and a large centre resonator) and was still too loud.
It all depends if you are after performance or aesthetics with the exhaust.

When i purchased my car 2009 135bhp, it had a decat and a bluespark tuning box, it dyno'd between 159bhp and 163bhp for reference.

If i had bought a standard car, sports cat would have been first on the list, then judged the sound level to then choose the nicest looking exhaust respectively. Im not sold on any of the induction kits as they all have negatives for me.
Abarth 500 / Re: Mak XLRs - anyone used them?
« Last post by Matt_dab on January 19, 2022, 10:55:01 am »
I actually looked at getting a set of these just over a year ago, but couldn't find the right colour and spec for the money.

I ended up purchasing some Fondmetal 9Esse wheels instead but they have a few options in the correct Centre bore/PCD etc

Just incase you were interested in looking into other options
Abarth 500 / Tender charger
« Last post by 695C on January 18, 2022, 03:24:47 pm »
Hi, has any of you fitted a MagCode charging cable/port to your Abarth? Where have placed the MagCode as discrete as possible?

And have any of you figured out how to fit a relay or something else so the car will not start if a charger is connected?

I had put the charger on last night as it had not been driven for some days and for some reason my wife took this instead of some of the other cars and drove halfway down the street with charger in the engine bay and extension cord hanging after the car ...

It's older italien brother will not start if the charger is on, which is smart enough.

Here is a retrofit of the MagCode on an R8 - https://www.r8talk.com/threads/great-charger-connection.163600/
Abarth 500 / Re: Check if Chipped
« Last post by a3Jeroen on January 18, 2022, 02:50:01 pm »
New mapping only in Sport could be done by my Tuner, but since I'm always in Sportmode (don't like the steering and gasresponse in normal mode) I didn't opt for that (was €50 extra).

gr J
Abarth 500 / Re: Check if Chipped
« Last post by EADadof3 on January 17, 2022, 06:29:07 pm »
Not sure if MPG is the right indicator.
Mine is chipped from 135Hp 206Nm to 170Hp 300 Nm. Since tuning it uses even less than before and less than my 100Hp Panda.
On a long run (motorways) it does 1(litre) in 17.5 (Km) easily. Short runs (especially in the cold) gives 12,5 out of a litre.

gr J
Thanks for the reply...will have to wait for the summer, or try a double map, more economy on normal and more power on sport....if that is possible ???
Abarth 500 / Re: Check if Chipped
« Last post by EADadof3 on January 17, 2022, 06:27:09 pm »
First thing is to reset both Trip 1 and 2. That should give you a clear base to start from. Does your mpg improve in summer? If you are doing short journeys in town where the oil and water temperature does not get up to normal, I can see 30 being quite possible, especially if it is all stop start.
Is the car service up to date, plugs, air filter correct oil, tyre pressures? You are not carrying a boat anchor in the boot ;D

Our Abarth does about 36mpg in similar driving conditions and my mrs certainly does not have a heavy foot.

I did that, got up to 32mpg at one point, gradually dropped back to 30.2 - thanks for the reply.
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