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Title: Convince me please!
Post by: Eighty4 on August 16, 2015, 10:05:04 am
Took a test drive in a 180 comp yesterday mainly due to the fact I was bored so took a few random cars out I thought looked fun. Well, what the hell....I'm not sure what I found funnier, the fact it was priced at nearly 20k when I asked to test drive the fastest thing they had, or the fact I climbed out of it with a grin on my face and the fact I was now considering buying one. This is off the back of driving a golf R in the morning, a natural successor to my current mk5 R32, which I was initially concerned about ditching as 2 litre engines sound so flat. I'm not sure if I'm ill, I don't have a fever, not had a beer since Thursday....why am I even considering this? Has anyone else dropped down from faster cars and regretted it? My 3 previous cars and current were/are 440bhp/220bhp/270hp, so I am concerned I would be upset I can't challenge the 2 litre crowd even. That being said, I'll still have fun, which has to be the main thing right? Still need convincing from you abarthians, specifically any comp 180 owners. That 1.4 sounds lovely. Anyway, main concerns:

I'm 6ft 1 and well built 15 stone, would I look a twonk getting in and out of the thing?
what is it like on long trips on the motorway?
Can I remap this bad boy and get 200hp without the engine falling to bits? What are abarths views on remaps?
Have you ever punched anyone in the face for taking the Michael Todd out of you driving a Lego car?

Thanks all, I'm hoping that this is just a temporary fixation on the 180 comp and I can go about my daily business in an s3 or golf r for the next few years.....then I'm also hoping you convince me this isn't a voodoo magic trick and I can run down to the abarth garage with my wallet in the air signing mmmm bop by Hanson.
Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: smithwellington on August 16, 2015, 12:15:41 pm
I test drove a golf r before the Abarth too. The Abarth got the gig simply because it made me grin much more. It's a hell of a lot cheaper too which is a bonus.

Depends what's important to you really, if pub stats and bragging rights are your thing then probably the Abarth isn't for you... But if you want something with character then look no further :)
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Post by: Reedo on August 16, 2015, 02:51:26 pm
Haha ..... This is basically the same as my story and the same concerns I have! I currently have an RX8 PZ which is running 245hp, I haven't had a car with less than 200bhp for years however I fell in love with the 180 comp! Everyone I know thinks I'm mad for wanting to buy one especially when they hear the price!! I to I'm wondering what people will think, not that I care!!! If I have to justify to one more bellend why I'm buying a "girls care" I will punch them right between the eyes!! Most of my friends don't understand the car game so I don't really entertain them. They drive anything from transits to polos to bikes..... only when I change my car is it an issue to them...... because im "into cars"
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Post by: Zermatt on August 16, 2015, 02:55:48 pm
We have a standard 14 version - nothing as flash as a 180 and my wife and I love it - always makes us smile , it was bought as a 3rd car but is becoming the car of choice for short trips ( up to 100 miles).

We've had a number of performance motors over the years - Golf GTis,  a couple of Z4s (3.0 and an M) and the Abarth shares drive space with my  997 . and the Abarth is up there as one of my favourites. good buddy of mine who is into his powerful Audis and Porsches saw mine recently and said - i need an excuse to get one of those.

the Golf R is a breathtaking car but the Abarth is certainly more fun - it just makes me chuckle . Really depends what you are going to do with it - if the car is doing a lot 200 mile plus stints  i would go for the Golf if its a lot of short blasts id think about the Abarth.



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Post by: PORTHOS on August 16, 2015, 03:57:18 pm
A lot of people forget the power to weight of these things, the new 180 is equal to most cars around 220bhp these days.

I came from a 200+ bhp Integra and not looked back since :)
Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: Fossil73 on August 16, 2015, 05:43:35 pm
My thoughts, can't vouch for the 180 Comp however I have the standard 135 HP and it makes me smile everytime I drive it.  I found myself making excuses to take it out for a blast and haven't done that since we had a 911.

These things punch well above their weight for fun and character.

Btw, I am 6'3" tall and about 15 stone.  No issues driving it but I have ahead a few comments about "driving the wife's car".  Don't knock it until you have tried it is what I say.

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Post by: jontell on August 16, 2015, 05:53:38 pm
I came from a vx220 which is much quicker and not missed the extra power. Tha Abarth can still surprise alot of cars.
Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: Zermatt on August 16, 2015, 06:19:14 pm
My thoughts, can't vouch for the 180 Comp however I have the standard 135 HP and it makes me smile everytime I drive it.  I found myself making excuses to take it out for a blast and haven't done that since we had a 911.

These things punch well above their weight for fun and character.

Btw, I am 6'3" tall and about 15 stone.  No issues driving it but I have ahead a few comments about "driving the wife's car".  Don't knock it until you have tried it is what I say.

what he said - although my problem is I bought this as my car and i cant stop my wife from driving it !
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Post by: scottycross on August 16, 2015, 09:33:22 pm
I'm 6 ft 2 and and I manage fine. Not sure how I look getting out of it though but I'm always too busy smiling to care.
Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: Brian1612 on August 17, 2015, 01:01:04 am
Waiting to pick up my own in less than 3 weeks now. I cannot comment on how they are to drive as I haven't had a test drive, adds to the excitement for me when the car arrives but what I will say.

One of these with a tmc box should do 200-220 bhp easily. That gives it a better power to weight ratio than the biposto, heck at 195 bhp your on level with it and that hits 0-62 in 5.9s so with the tmc box on one of these things, won't be anything for a comparable price that will be faster, really only the 4wd german super hatchbacks that will leave you behind. 8)
Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: Eighty4 on August 17, 2015, 07:04:54 pm
Well, thanks everyone, I think you have all just helped me make up my mind. The tmc box is the icing, and the fact I couldn't sleep last night as I was too busy youtubing the comp, like a little kid again!

Abarth garage at weekend to order a 65 plate, now just to decide which type of grey to go for!

Will post pictures when I join the abarth club. Reedo, hope you get one mate!

Cheers
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Post by: Zermatt on August 17, 2015, 07:24:53 pm
I think thats what these cars are all about - they just make you smile  :)  . lucky boy with a 180 as well  :thumb:
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Post by: Mgbudd on August 17, 2015, 08:04:15 pm
You won't be disappointed!!! I am just about to get my 3rd after a string of much more powerful cars before I discovered my first Abarth!!!   The experience is greater than it should be on paper! You will get more smiles per mile in an Abarth or at least I do ;-)
Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: AdamAbarth on August 21, 2015, 07:44:36 pm
I like the fact that the car entertains me at any speed. You don't have to be driving hard to have fun which is a rarity these days.
Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: JP on August 22, 2015, 08:30:02 am
I came from a Civic Type R EP3 with no regrets.  I had a 180 remap from A.H.M Tuning on my 500 and to be honest there is not a lot a difference in performance to 100mph.  Although the build quality of the Honda is far more superior  the fun factor and constant good attention of the Abarth is far greater.    If you like driving than you'll love the Abarth.  I have read the internals of the stock engine are good for 220bhp and haven't read of any blow up ones as yet!
Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: Eighty4 on August 22, 2015, 10:02:24 am
Heard nothing but good things, took a second test drive on Wednesday just to make sure and my gut reaction hasn't changed. It was triple stamped after a last minute decision to take the s3 sedan out ended in me getting to the audi garage 15 mins late due to traffic and they had taken the car back as "we thought you weren't coming", no call or anything.  I've specced the car but it's going to be a 10 week wait which will kill me. I've got 2 garages who are going to have to fight it out on deals, research seem to be the best pick so far with the deposit contribution but I'll give bradford a chance to match it.

Spec will be:
Record grey
Black alloys
Yellow callipers
Upgraded stereo
Standard cloth sabelts

Can't wait. TMC box once it has run in a bit.
Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: amartin930 on August 23, 2015, 11:21:50 am
 :wave:

You can replicate the excitement of driving a super car by driving an Abarth......

......around the car park!

 :wave:
Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: Eighty4 on August 24, 2015, 03:27:27 pm
Just about to take the final plunge tomorrow morning. Out of interest what kinds of deals are getting thrown around on the 180 comp?

The best negotiation I have had so far is:

1250 deposit contribution on top of my 1k down, then 268 a month over 4 years at 8k miles a year, final payment of 8k. The interscope stereo and yellow calipers thrown in for free....

Compare favourably to anyone who has already purchased one or is this about the norm?

Cheers!
Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: Tromano89 on August 24, 2015, 03:55:35 pm
I picked mine up for 207 a month over 4 years, I did put down a big deposit though (5k). I was offered things like paint protection and smart insurance(insures against stratches and small dents/marks). I haggled with the dealer and paid for the smart insurance for a year on the condition he threw in the paint protection.

I think I got a pretty good deal  ;D


Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: Brian1612 on August 24, 2015, 04:22:13 pm
My car was discounted substantially by about £1500 after I spec'd Grey Leather Sabelts, Interscope, Black Metallic paint and Yellow calipers. Basically got the Leather Sabelts and yellow calipers for nothing. Also managed to get my negative equity cleared and paying just over £300 per month, very happy with the deal I got considering my situation with the current car with a 1k deposit from myself.   :thumb: 
Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: mezzotint on August 24, 2015, 07:39:27 pm
Research offered me the best deal.  I bought the standard car with black side stripes total cost £20160 for £17890 on the road. So I am pretty pleased and personally preferred a red car .

I probably got such a good deal as I was prepared to accept a stock car with a 15 plate

With nil deposit I pay £249 per month over 4 years with 9k final payment. Mileage 5K, to keep the monthly payments down. I may do more than that per year but excess mileage charges only become an issue if you return the car and walk away.

In my opinion any deposit you put down although it does does decrease your monthly payments you will never get it back.I would rather keep the money for other things.
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Post by: Brian1612 on August 24, 2015, 08:12:54 pm
Mezza you are always better putting a deposit down as it means you mah pay a substantial amount less due to a less amount of money to e financed and apr added.
Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: JKDesign80 on August 24, 2015, 08:19:17 pm
Mezza you are always better putting a deposit down as it means you mah pay a substantial amount less due to a less amount of money to e financed and apr added.

Agreed, the figures above equate to paying over £20k with APR.

You will end up paying more for the car with less deposit as you owe more on finance!
Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: mezzotint on August 25, 2015, 07:24:42 am
Over the years I have had a number of PCPs which have always suited me, and on different terms, nil, small and large deposits, and I agree you will always pay more with a small or nil deposit.

 But in my experience and in my opinion if the Apr is very low under 6% or better still even lower the amount of additional interest paid is not that significant on small deposits such as 1k or 2k but it is more noticeable on a large deposit such as 5K.

It all boils down to what available  cash you have and what other things you wish to do and what income you expect to earn/ receive in the future which could offset any increased total loan costs.

The beauty of the PCP it can be tailored to anybody's personal circumstances. My arrangement suits me. In my experience once the deposit is paid  it is unlikely you will retrieve  much or any of it when you trade the car in in 2, 3 or 4 years time.  Vat and depreciation will see to that.

My advice is get several PCP quotes with  different levels of deposit over the same period  with the same Apr , compare the total costs  and take the one which suits you best, but consider how you see yourself financially in 3 to 4 years time.
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Post by: Fossil73 on August 25, 2015, 09:33:14 am
Very sound advice
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Post by: Brian1612 on August 25, 2015, 10:00:44 am
Think a deposit saves you money if you buy the car at the end of your PCP deal as you will overall pay less for the car over 4 years obviously.

£1000 deposit with APR of 6.3 as is on these Abarths.

I pay nearly £280 less for the car. Not a great deal over 4 years but still better off in your pocket than the finance I say. companies.
Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: Tobamory on August 26, 2015, 07:49:50 pm
Buy one I'm coming from a 420 bhp A45

Spec was near the same
Record grey
Yellow brakes
Stereo
Black wheels
Natural sabalt leather or brown if your from Yorkshire

309 a month 200 quid deposit...I don't do large deposits as I always terminate finance halfway, not even driven it yet, but not doing so excites me lol

It's cheap it's fun and it looks good being 44 and 6ft nothing would suit me bar this lol
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Post by: Reedo on September 09, 2015, 03:41:54 pm
Exact spec I ordered!!
Title: Re: Convince me please!
Post by: mezzotint on September 10, 2015, 06:07:13 pm
Brian 1612 - You could also argue that you parted with £1000 now out of your own pocket  to save £6 a month over the next 4 years.