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Social => Introduce Yourselves! => Topic started by: chris_jh on November 14, 2008, 10:44:24 am

Title: Hi all
Post by: chris_jh on November 14, 2008, 10:44:24 am
Hi all - I am guilty of being a guest lurching around here so it is high time I registered.

Thinking about getting a 500 Abarth to replace my Lupo GTi but I have not put a deposit down yet as I want to test drive it and find the exact cost / insurance group first.

Was thinking about upgrading to the esse esse version but the 6k oil changes put me off (does this mean I would have to go to an Abarth dealer each time?). Don’t like the white wheels either – I would prefer to pick and choose the options that I want. I would like to see how much it all cost including fitting, hidden changes like VAT and what it would do to my insurance premium. Though it was a bit cheeky of Fiat to let Top Gear test one and not really go into details about the extra cost over the standard model.
Title: Re: hi all
Post by: AlexK on November 14, 2008, 12:59:40 pm
Hey Chris, welcome!

I think the plan is that a number of Abarth service centres will open around the country, so oil changes shouldn't be a problem.

As far as I know, the standard Abarth wheels will still fit after the Esseesse kit has been fitted, so if that's what you'd prefer, I can't see a problem with it.  ChunkyMonkey, our resident tech, will be able to confirm.

I suspect that the Top Gear piece was filmed some time ago.  But, even bearing that in mind, we still don't have confirmed prices for either the standard car or the kit.

Stick around!  :)
Title: Re: Hi all
Post by: John501 on November 14, 2008, 01:08:27 pm
Hi Chris, welcome to the forum,
There would be no mechanical problem putting the old wheels on the car after the Esse Esse kit has been fitted. The only problem is that you are effectively downgrading the handling kit and therefore in an accident would be un-insured.
Title: Re: Hi all
Post by: OPC on November 14, 2008, 02:03:37 pm
If you had the 16" wheels and then upgraded to the esseesse kit then maybe you could have a problem with insurance if you stuck the 16" wheels back on.

But surely insurance wouldn't be affected if you had some of the optional 17" wheels in the first place, then upgraded to the esseesse kit. The wheels and tyres are the same size for the optional 17" wheels and the 17" wheels that you get with the esseesse kit on the 500. The weight of the wheels is probably different and the tyres might be different?? But that wouldn't effect insurance, as people fit any make of tyre that they want onto their cars.

I've thought about a 500 Abarth for the wife and hate the 16" alloys, so I'd definetly spec it with the 17's. I'd also be tempted by the esseesse kit and would like to use both sets of alloys still once the kit is fitted. That wouldn't still effect insurance would it?
Title: Re: Hi all
Post by: OPC on November 14, 2008, 02:05:24 pm
Oh, sorry for going off topic with your thread Chris jh. Welcome to the forum. ;D
Title: Re: Hi all
Post by: AlexK on November 14, 2008, 02:19:42 pm
I don't agree with John at all.

You can do what you like with your car, as long as you tell the insurance company what it is.
Title: Re: Hi all
Post by: John501 on November 14, 2008, 02:23:06 pm
Thats very true, I was meaning if you put the 16" wheels back on, and didn't tell the insurance company. We all know what they are like, the slightest excuse and they wont pay out.
Title: Re: Hi all
Post by: AndyW on November 14, 2008, 10:57:40 pm
Welcome Chris, another Lupo GTI owner here, are you on Club Lupo? (Just incase I already know you!) What colour is yours?
Title: Re: Hi all
Post by: chris_jh on November 17, 2008, 12:22:59 pm
If you change the alloys on your car and they already have alloys thought you
didn’t need to tell the insurance company – not sure if it applies if the size difference has been changed though?

AndyW: yeah i am under the name jonnycv my Lupo is black - I don't use the forums there now as it is all youngsters posting!
Title: Re: Hi all
Post by: AndyW on November 17, 2008, 03:32:40 pm
AndyW: yeah i am under the name jonnycv my Lupo is black - I don't use the forums there now as it is all youngsters posting!

I remember you, yeah, I don't post there all that much either, just idiot central at times now.
Title: Re: Hi all
Post by: magicmole on November 17, 2008, 07:00:15 pm
When I asked my insurance company about mods to my Barchetta they said that anything non-standard was classed as a mod. Even one of Kwik-Fit's finest.

On that basis, how many cars are actually potentially uninsured?

They may not bump your insurance up, but you do need to tell them if you do any mods. Larger wheels would probably attract a higher premium
Title: Re: Hi all
Post by: DevilAndGod on November 17, 2008, 08:23:10 pm
When I asked my insurance company about mods to my Barchetta they said that anything non-standard was classed as a mod. Even one of Kwik-Fit's finest.

On that basis, how many cars are actually potentially uninsured?

They may not bump your insurance up, but you do need to tell them if you do any mods. Larger wheels would probably attract a higher premium

Yes exactly. Tell your insurance companies everything. Any excuse for them not to pay up and they will take it! Even swopping wheels. If they arent standard they might be seen as more expensive/ attractive so more likely to be stolen or your car vanalised. I doubt they would care if you changed wheels for the same size. But always check. Going bigger might put it up but not my much.