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Abarth 595 180 Vs Biposto 190 - Werrington Hillclimb 2016
« on: May 10, 2016, 10:26:24 am »


Was lucky to have been helping film at the Vospers Werrington Hillclimb where they had John Hutchinson (Vospers Abarth) in his 180 Comp and Peter Robinson (Head of Abarth Uk Sales) going head to head up the hill.

There was roughly 3 seconds between the two cars but nothing between them on the first half of the track,  the Biposto's LSD and weight advantage made the most of the technical sections towards the second half ultimately giving it the faster times :thumb:

Thank to John for the video  :thumb:

Couple of shots of my own:






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    Re: Abarth 595 180 Vs Biposto 190 - Werrington Hillclimb 2016
    « Reply #1 on: May 10, 2016, 11:33:15 pm »
    Peter looked a lot more committed ( or is it Mental :D :whistle: ) compared to John, the LSD would of torn through the technical section, scary old hill, not sure I will do it again, although perhaps it'll feel better from the safety of my Abarth.

    Good weekend, the Abarths looked great when the sun was out. :thumb:
    « Last Edit: May 10, 2016, 11:36:23 pm by sandys »

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    Re: Abarth 595 180 Vs Biposto 190 - Werrington Hillclimb 2016
    « Reply #2 on: May 11, 2016, 02:52:47 am »
    Great to see this. Looking at the results I'm surprised the Biposto wasn't a little quicker.
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    Re: Abarth 595 180 Vs Biposto 190 - Werrington Hillclimb 2016
    « Reply #3 on: May 11, 2016, 06:59:22 am »
    I'll watch the video when I get a chance (at work now).

    Are both cars standard, if not what suspension mods (if any) does the Competizione has?

    Thanks for sharing  :thumb:

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    Re: Abarth 595 180 Vs Biposto 190 - Werrington Hillclimb 2016
    « Reply #4 on: May 11, 2016, 09:26:21 am »
    Cracking little video. Is there a raw version anywhere so we can hear the cars on fly-by rather than the music I've the top?

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    Re: Abarth 595 180 Vs Biposto 190 - Werrington Hillclimb 2016
    « Reply #5 on: May 11, 2016, 10:23:33 am »
    John will have some raw footage I'm sure, I took some of the action cam sections and the cars sounded great, although arguably the Comp sounded better... but then I would say that! I would need to upload the footage to youtube but it will take me ages on my rubbish connection here.

    No mods to either cars, completely stock Competizione 180, the Biposto was the 50k version I believe, it just didn't have the plastic windows, so it was a touch under the 997kg dry weight of the base spec. There is probably 50kg between the 180 and the 190 in real life with all fluids etc.

    The 180 comp has a more practical power band so it pulls away faster at lower rpm, once the biposto gets going though it's genuinely quick and as said the LSD really really helps in the corners.

    Had the 180 had an LSD I could imagine the time would have been closer to just 1 or 2 seconds apart.
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    Re: Abarth 595 180 Vs Biposto 190 - Werrington Hillclimb 2016
    « Reply #6 on: May 11, 2016, 10:35:19 am »
    Great to see this. Looking at the results I'm surprised the Biposto wasn't a little quicker.

    It's a short hill, from talking to them I think john has done it before and I think it was Peter first time, that alone could be a difference, if it didn't rain on Sunday the Biposto might of pulled out more. There were some quite prepped cars in class A3, stripped and tricked out on sticky rubber like Type Rs and Clios which the Biposto was quicker than on normal road rubber, it aquitted it self well, of course if you ignore price and look at what the car is, a tarted up 500. :whistle:

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    Re: Abarth 595 180 Vs Biposto 190 - Werrington Hillclimb 2016
    « Reply #7 on: May 11, 2016, 10:42:47 am »
    of course if you ignore price and look at what the car is, a tarted up 500. :whistle:
    That could describe all Abarths!!
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    Re: Abarth 595 180 Vs Biposto 190 - Werrington Hillclimb 2016
    « Reply #8 on: May 13, 2016, 10:18:36 am »
    Ah, I've met peter, really nice bloke. It was his 595 comp that I had a go in to see if I liked it. He does hillclimbing in his own car he was saying, a caterham maybe(???)

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    Re: Abarth 595 180 Vs Biposto 190 - Werrington Hillclimb 2016
    « Reply #9 on: May 13, 2016, 10:23:22 am »
    Ah, I've met peter, really nice bloke. It was his 595 comp that I had a go in to see if I liked it. He does hillclimbing in his own car he was saying, a caterham maybe(???)

    I'm sure he does a lot of racing  :thumb: